Johnny Jacobs Posted May 14, 2022 Posted May 14, 2022 He knew what he was doing so.. I don't use him anyways.
justinxx Posted May 14, 2022 Posted May 14, 2022 (edited) I don't think the word is at the same point the n word is, culturally speaking in the US. It probably never will be. This probably seems okay to most of his listeners/the average American. The word "felt okay" to say like ten years ago for most kids/teens/etc... so maybe he'll backtrack in like 2032 when more time has passed. Edited May 14, 2022 by justinxx
Bussea Posted May 14, 2022 Posted May 14, 2022 (edited) im going to say this and keep it pushing idc to debate the whole “this is just going to normalize straight men saying it!” argument is dumb. whoever was already saying it is just going to keep saying it and the one’s who know better are not. unless i’m missing something, I have yet to see an influx of straight men going out of their way to say it. if people paid attention to actual line, this outrage is literally proving the point he was trying to make. I believe that art should be uncensored and not everything has to be politically correct if it’s being used to convey a positive message. People who are ACTUALLY offended by this are entitled to feel upset because at the end of the day he did say a slur but they’re being overcrowded by diet racist white twinks who already **** on hip hop and stereotype black male rappers so when I first learned about the outrage, I didn’t take the **** seriously because it didn’t seem genuine from some people ? especially with their post histories with that being said, even though I know it WON’T, I hope this gives some members perspective. all the racial gaslighting, transphobia and your hatred for nonbinary is wack af. so many of you keep saying straight men can’t say the eff word, but in other threads you’re claiming the n word is just a word that everyone should be able to use and quote in a song and how black rappers shouldn’t use it if they don’t want others to. guess what? they just used the ***. a word that this site constantly uses. you see how dumb the argument “don’t use it if you don’t want others to” is now? this site is constantly displaying internalized homophobia, calling each other sissies, bottoms, faggots, and other homophobic terms (not to mention BULLY Shawn Mendes because you think he’s gay) that straight people use to disenfranchise you and now you’re trying to blame Kendrick, who was trying to call out the ignorance behind it and was trying to be pro LGBT, for normalizing it for his fans to say? I pray this teaches you to learn how to be ******* empathetic to people who are being misgendered and have to hear the n word from non black people, the same way you want people to be when you have to hear the *** Edited May 14, 2022 by Bussea
Jotham Posted May 14, 2022 Posted May 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bussea said: im going to say this and keep it pushing idc to debate the whole “this is just going to normalize straight men saying it!” argument is dumb. whoever was already saying it is just going to keep saying it and the one’s who know better are not. unless i’m missing something, I have yet to see an influx of straight men going out of their way to say it. if people paid attention to actual line, this outrage is literally proving the point he was trying to make. I believe that art should be uncensored and not everything has to be politically correct if it’s being used to convey a positive message. People who are ACTUALLY offended by this are entitled to feel upset because at the end of the day he did say a slur but they’re being overcrowded by diet racist white twinks who already **** on hip hop and stereotype black male rappers so when I first learned about the outrage, I didn’t take the **** seriously because it didn’t seem genuine from some people ? especially with their post histories with that being said, even though I know it WON’T, I hope this gives some members perspective. all the racial gaslighting, transphobia and your hatred for nonbinary is wack af. so many of you keep saying straight men can’t say the eff word, but in other threads you’re claiming the n word is just a word that everyone should be able to use and quote in a song and how black rappers shouldn’t use it if they don’t want others to. guess what? they just used the ***. a word that this site constantly uses. you see how dumb the argument “don’t use it if you don’t want others to” is now? this site is constantly displaying internalized homophobia, calling each other sissies, bottoms, faggots, and other homophobic terms that straight people use to disenfranchise you and now you’re trying to blame Kendrick, who was trying to call out the ignorance behind it and was trying to be pro LGBT, for normalizing it for his fans to say? I pray this teaches you to learn how to be ******* empathetic to people who are being misgendered and have to hear the n word from non black people, the same way you want people to be when you have to hear the ***
Smilers Posted May 14, 2022 Posted May 14, 2022 He could've just made the point without repeating the word like 10 times. Even a lot of gays don't feel comfortable with using it publicly. But whatever i guess
BnPac Posted May 14, 2022 Posted May 14, 2022 29 pages... Well then, Kendrick you made it. 39 minutes ago, Bussea said: im going to say this and keep it pushing idc to debate the whole “this is just going to normalize straight men saying it!” argument is dumb. whoever was already saying it is just going to keep saying it and the one’s who know better are not. unless i’m missing something, I have yet to see an influx of straight men going out of their way to say it. if people paid attention to actual line, this outrage is literally proving the point he was trying to make. I believe that art should be uncensored and not everything has to be politically correct if it’s being used to convey a positive message. People who are ACTUALLY offended by this are entitled to feel upset because at the end of the day he did say a slur but they’re being overcrowded by diet racist white twinks who already **** on hip hop and stereotype black male rappers so when I first learned about the outrage, I didn’t take the **** seriously because it didn’t seem genuine from some people ? especially with their post histories with that being said, even though I know it WON’T, I hope this gives some members perspective. all the racial gaslighting, transphobia and your hatred for nonbinary is wack af. so many of you keep saying straight men can’t say the eff word, but in other threads you’re claiming the n word is just a word that everyone should be able to use and quote in a song and how black rappers shouldn’t use it if they don’t want others to. guess what? they just used the ***. a word that this site constantly uses. you see how dumb the argument “don’t use it if you don’t want others to” is now? this site is constantly displaying internalized homophobia, calling each other sissies, bottoms, faggots, and other homophobic terms (not to mention BULLY Shawn Mendes because you think he’s gay) that straight people use to disenfranchise you and now you’re trying to blame Kendrick, who was trying to call out the ignorance behind it and was trying to be pro LGBT, for normalizing it for his fans to say? I pray this teaches you to learn how to be ******* empathetic to people who are being misgendered and have to hear the n word from non black people, the same way you want people to be when you have to hear the *** ------------- And the nerve to say someone is not a good lyricist because he's relating a situation when kids used to yell "****" 7 times. What a place.
crf13 Posted May 14, 2022 Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/13/2022 at 9:37 AM, HeavyMetalAura said: I’m not going to engage with people who are defending a straight man using a gay slur, but I do want to just generally apologize to any gay people reading this who have to, on a forum comprised primarily of LGBTQ+ people, defend being offended by it. Y’all are being gaslit and it’s really sad. I honestly didn’t expect people would be grasping at straws to defend this pretending that “context” is ok. We all know that other marginalized communities get extended far more empathy when people use slurs against them in any “context”, and despite the exact same logic, people want to gaslit LGBTQ+ people into thinking it’s “not the same.” It’s the exact same logic whether people want to admit it or not. It’s so disheartening to read people grasping at straws to defend this, as well as people having to defend why they’re offended by the use of a slur used seven times.
ATRL Moderation Team Posted May 14, 2022 Posted May 14, 2022 It’s amazing how many members with “straight” plastered on their profile are getting so bold in defending the use of a slur that has nothing to do with them. Locking because the arguments have been hashed out and are tired.
ATRL Administrator Ryan Posted May 14, 2022 ATRL Administrator Posted May 14, 2022 We are discussing how to reopen the thread. When we do I have some opinions that I will share. But one thing is for certain no one should have their feelings dismissed simply because one doesn’t agree with it.
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