Rodrighost Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 The "context" team is just enabling other oppressor groups to use slurs "without malice"
Hephaestus Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Espresso said: It's at the nexus of gatekeeping larger cultural conversations they intentionally avoid around rap/hip-hop and whose opinion is worthy. I've seen it so many times and it's really transparent and tired. And it keeps happening. It all roots in rap/hip-hop being a predominantly black genres (hence suffering from racism). Since they get hate, it's only fair they do the same to other minorities. Country music is similar, but on the opposite side of the spectrum (and with less gatekeeping). If only people could understand that you can support artists you like without excusing and giving passes to all their mistakes... 6 minutes ago, Espresso said: @Hephaestus Case in point
Joey Coco Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Yuanyu said: He was the bigger rapperi n early 00'. I'm sure you know that before him many said the word without consequence, don't you? No mainstream rapper was more openly homophobic than Eminem.
Vermillion Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, Cloudy said: What? Everyone knows in this thread who we're refering to, the one that almost has 50 posts in this thread and hasn't made a single point in any of them Someone quoted you who directly contradicted what you said earlier which is why I was confused and addressed it. Nevermind.
Rev8 Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Communion said: Her career ended because she was seen as a talentless and not respected for her craft, not because of any rightful racial justice redemption. Now u are just rewriting history we all know why she got her career CUT the viral "nonsense" performance was just a result of that
Rap God Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, Joey Coco said: No mainstream rapper was more openly homophobic than Eminem. DMX say hello
BILLIONAIRE✘BOY Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Cutthroat said: Have you malfunctioned or something? Did somebody spill water on your circuit? Your responses to me make zero sense. It’s as if you’re quoting me by mistake. I guess I’ll just leave the ‘conversation’ here and go and talk with my Alexa, because at least her comprehension levels are more advanced. We need to get you an upgrade ASAP! Kendrick isnt homphobic.
Joey Coco Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Rap God said: DMX say hello DMX had his moments (Where the Hood At, for example) but Eminem was waving the flag higher than everybody and capitalized on the controversy. Edited May 13, 2022 by Joey Coco
Cutthroat Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, BILLIONAIRE✘BOY said: Kendrick isnt homphobic.
Hephaestus Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Cutthroat said: lmao they must be trolling, there's no other explanation
HeavyMetalAura Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 The “white gays” thing also doesn’t apply here. I understand and agree that the white subset of the gay community has its own issues that the broader community does not. I also understand that Kendrick as a black man may receive more criticism than, say, when Eminem said it. But this is all beside the point. The F slur has been historically used against gay people of all colors, including white gay people. Therefore, white gays are allowed to be offended by it and have opinions on its use. They are also allowed - and should be encouraged, if they feel empowered to do so - to criticize people who use it. To dismiss this outrage as coming from “white gays” is so pointless when the it’s a slur that’s still used against them. What a strange and homophobic logic to think otherwise. People are really revealing themselves here.
Cutthroat Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hephaestus said: lmao they must be trolling, there's no other explanation Definitely!
BILLIONAIRE✘BOY Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Rev8 said: Now u are just rewriting history we all know why she got her career CUT the viral "nonsense" performance was just a result of that Nah Iggy was very mediocre and had more chances than she probably deserved. She couldn't follow up after fancy or black widow(?)/she was looked at as a joke from the rap world and she just fell off. But what other reason would there be?
Communion Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, Rev8 said: Now u are just rewriting history we all know why she got her career CUT the viral "nonsense" performance was just a result of that I think you're rewriting history. People were discussing Iggy and race for years - the runaway slave master lyric, her flexing being white on My World, the weird blaccent on Murda Bizness, the plethora of casually racist and bigoted tweets, the beef with Azealia, etc. Toss in the Bounce video too for good fun. None of these things and the conversations mattered to industry people who made her an On The Verge artist at iHeartRadio that caused Fancy to be as huge of a hit as it was. MØ's stage fright and Iggy's own poor abilities to be respected for her craft did more damage to her career than black twitter ever could, no matter how much y'all want to pretend otherwise. Did she fail to prepare herself for flopping because she had few rap fans due to her actions after Top 40/pop dropped her? Sure. But you can't frame certain audiences as somehow horrifically vengeful and why an artist's career ended when those audiences were never consuming that person's work to begin with.
Joey Coco Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BILLIONAIRE✘BOY said: Nah Iggy was very mediocre and had more chances than she probably deserved. She couldn't follow up after fancy or black widow(?)/she was looked at as a joke from the rap world and she just fell off. But what other reason would there be? This was iconic. Just wish it was live and from the same interview lol Edited May 13, 2022 by Joey Coco
BILLIONAIRE✘BOY Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Joey Coco said: This was iconic. omg I forgot about this skskks
Joey Coco Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, BILLIONAIRE✘BOY said: omg I forgot about this skskks What an era lol
Planet Mars Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 19 minutes ago, Yuanyu said: He was the bigger rapperi n early 00'. I'm sure you know that before him many said the word without consequence, don't you? What? Come again...
Vermillion Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, Juanny said: I support his use of this word on his song because it is actually pro-LGBT message. The fact he is doing this, many young straight men look up to him, and will take their cues to treat us better and be careful about the use of this word. Except there's been like 4 pages of this thread dedicated to how many won't.
Pheromosa Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Espresso said: Except there's been like 4 pages of this thread dedicated to how many won't. You mean those that already use the word and still won’t care?
Rap God Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Joey Coco said: DMX had his moments (Where the Hood At, for example) but Eminem was waving the flag higher than everybody and capitalized on the controversy more. Hip-Hop overall back in the past was very homophobic, don't matter how you're trying to slice it. DMX had way more than moments. Edited May 13, 2022 by Rap God
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