PrudenceHCharmed Posted March 21 Posted March 21 There you go, the third black woman coming for B during this trilogy. Erykah, Kelis and Azelia. It's crazy how Beyoncé did so much to empower woman and black people.
PrudenceHCharmed Posted March 21 Posted March 21 8 hours ago, BnPac said: Beyoncé's thread or not, you said she doesn't uplift other black female artists, those were your exact words, so you should be able to provide examples of black female artists who have done more or better. All those loosy excuses, this one is new, this one is Nicki, this one is retired, before retirement she had 8 whole albums with various tours, all except one very pop, where a bunch of black artists are marginalized, enough time to do that. Janet and Mariah are also veterans and had years to also do that. Doja is entering places in pop were few black female rappers have ever gone, why is she not bringing the marginalized with her? If you can hold Beyoncé to those ridiculous standards, a woman that went even to Africa to uplift black women, underrepresented and completely unknown to the scene, then you can provide examples for the others. Beyoncé has done far more, she has done A LOT. And despite that you come here to say that she doesn't uplift black women just because in Renaissance there were no features of some obscure artists that YOU felt deserve a featuring is ridiculous and just plain wrong. Whether that fit with Beyoncé's musical vision or not. But it's not really surprising for someone who agrees with AB. The point was also not to call those women out, it was to tell you that collaborating is not something that is decided on those arbitrary criteria which sole responsibility is put on Beyoncé's shoulders. I mean Beyoncé constantly had black woman in her work, although not necessarily be a song. i.e. Zendaya, Chloe in Lemonade. Kelly & Lupita in Brown Skin Girls MV. Her dancers, background singers, are mostly women and black too. On the other hand, you don't really see Janet or Rihanna mentioning they're proud black woman.
PrudenceHCharmed Posted March 21 Posted March 21 10 hours ago, Kingdom said: So..beyonce needs to be dirt poor in nashville and picking horse poop off the farm to be able to make a country album, but keith urban who is from Australia and shania twain who is from canada can make country albums? but of those three names only one of them was born and raised in TEXAS i really hope you see how less than smart you sound..lol
Funnyfatty Posted March 21 Posted March 21 5 minutes ago, PrudenceHCharmed said: I mean Beyoncé constantly had black woman in her work, although not necessarily be a song. i.e. Zendaya, Chloe in Lemonade. Kelly & Lupita in Brown Skin Girls MV. Her dancers, background singers, are mostly women and black too. On the other hand, you don't really see Janet or Rihanna mentioning they're proud black woman. All the black woman who are no danger for Beyonce yeah that makes sense. 17 minutes ago, PrudenceHCharmed said: There you go, the third black woman coming for B during this trilogy. Erykah, Kelis and Azelia. It's crazy how Beyoncé did so much to empower woman and black people. and all of them are right? Especially Kelis?? Her vocals were used like how can a fanbase be that dense
brenda-walsh Posted March 21 Posted March 21 6 minutes ago, Funnyfatty said: All the black woman who are no danger for Beyonce yeah that makes sense. and all of them are right? Especially Kelis?? Her vocals were used like how can a fanbase be that dense the irony of calling people dense when you typed this out. there's plenty of posts in here discussing the numerous black female artists she's collaborated with who are all household names. and rehashing that old Kelis drama her real issue was with Pharrell and her vocals were eventually removed from the song anyway Azealia is delusional and the only reason you're agreeing with her is because you hate Bey. We all know when she comes for your fave you'll also be calling her delusional
jomarr Posted March 21 Posted March 21 I ain't reading all of that. The Whiteyonce Donatella Bianca Bardot sentence is enough Azealia for me for the month. 4
dinorhino Posted March 21 Posted March 21 2 hours ago, PrudenceHCharmed said: There you go, the third black woman coming for B during this trilogy. Erykah, Kelis and Azelia. It's crazy how Beyoncé did so much to empower woman and black people. Kelis was justified although I do think she should have probably been aware that the sample came from Pharrell and she likely wouldn't have known the backstory behind Pharrell being predatory with song credits and royalties. But she was very right to say it is rude to use her vocals as a sample without asking her either way so again, still justified
jomarr Posted March 21 Posted March 21 12 hours ago, Kingdom said: So..beyonce needs to be dirt poor in nashville and picking horse poop off the farm to be able to make a country album, but keith urban who is from Australia and shania twain who is from canada can make country albums? but of those three names only one of them was born and raised in TEXAS i really hope you see how less than smart you sound..lol teach them sis
ShouldersSideways Posted March 21 Posted March 21 4 minutes ago, dinorhino said: Kelis was justified although I do think she should have probably been aware that the sample came from Pharrell and she likely wouldn't have known the backstory behind Pharrell being predatory with song credits and royalties. But she was very right to say it is rude to use her vocals as a sample without asking her either way so again, still justified I agree, but she also opened herself up to criticism when she said all that. Bey is generally harmless and Kelis clearly relished in going at her even though beyonce didn't anything to do with the problem. Kelis and her ilk don't like Bey because she's what she thought she would be.
dinorhino Posted March 21 Posted March 21 5 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said: I agree, but she also opened herself up to criticism when she said all that. Bey is generally harmless and Kelis clearly relished in going at her even though beyonce didn't anything to do with the problem. Kelis and her ilk don't like Bey because she's what she thought she would be. I truly don't think Kelis gives two fucks about the criticism she received especially since she's not even doing music anymore and she recently experienced her husband dying with two very young children to raise in addition to her son with Nas I will say that she used this situation to vent about the wrongdoings that happened to her because of Pharrell and Beyonce got caught in the crossfire. I think she went too far saying Beyonce is a 'thief' knowing very well that she likely wasn't aware of Pharrell scheming and being predatory to many musicians he collaborates with. But she was right to say it was in very poor taste for Beyonce and/or her team to not reach out for permission of the sample. I think even if everything was kosher was Pharrell it is still polite and the right thing to do to ask the singer behind the vocals you are using on your album. But the responsibility also extends to her team and not solely Beyoncé even though obviously she will get the backlash as she is the face behind the entire project
Breathe On Moi Posted March 21 Posted March 21 13 hours ago, naval23 said: not Rihanna catching a lick here which chapter is that in?
PrudenceHCharmed Posted March 21 Posted March 21 11 hours ago, Funnyfatty said: All the black woman who are no danger for Beyonce yeah that makes sense. But she collaborated with Alicia Keys,Mary J Blige, Megan and Nicki before. And she performed with Tina Turner at the Grammys during her early days as well as showing love to Rihanna and Janet multiple times (it's Janet that's probably felt threatened by Bey) Well you can't expect her collaborating with Janet or Rihanna when they couldn't match B vocally or performing wise B has no reason to be insecure when she's basically one of the best vocalist and dancer that we have now..
Fleahive Posted March 21 Posted March 21 12 hours ago, Funnyfatty said: All the black woman who are no danger for Beyonce yeah that makes sense. and all of them are right? Especially Kelis?? Her vocals were used like how can a fanbase be that dense 10 hours ago, dinorhino said: Kelis was justified although I do think she should have probably been aware that the sample came from Pharrell and she likely wouldn't have known the backstory behind Pharrell being predatory with song credits and royalties. But she was very right to say it is rude to use her vocals as a sample without asking her either way so again, still justified 10 hours ago, ShouldersSideways said: I agree, but she also opened herself up to criticism when she said all that. Bey is generally harmless and Kelis clearly relished in going at her even though beyonce didn't anything to do with the problem. Kelis and her ilk don't like Bey because she's what she thought she would be. Kelis vocals were NOT used in that song. It was Beyoncé interpolating the "lala" that actually sounds nothing like the Kelis lalas. Lastly it's funny how people automatically side with Kelis accusing Pharrell of stealing from her when he had worked with EVERYONE in the industry for decades and has no other accusations. She wanted attention and she got it. She is not a victim. 3 1
superben Posted March 21 Posted March 21 She's somewhat right here. Wealth advantage is like 1000x more significant than any race advantage. 1 3
swissman Posted March 21 Posted March 21 14 hours ago, Funnyfatty said: All the black woman who are no danger for Beyonce yeah that makes sense. I'm confused as to why Beyoncé needs to "support" women who are a "danger for Beyoncé" because if that were the case, it would imply they don't really need her support. If they have the success, talent, and popularity that they could be a danger to the legendary position Beyoncé holds, then whether Beyoncé supports them or not, it shouldn't matter. And yet even before Beyoncé established herself as a legend, she was collaborating with two of her most popular peers of the 1990s/2000s: Alicia Keys and Mary J. Blige. 6
swissman Posted March 21 Posted March 21 (edited) The part where Azealia claims Beyoncé smothered out other Black artists to get the country #1...meanwhile other than Beyoncé, there are 0 Black artists in the Top 10 and only two women (both of which are there for duets with men). I would venture to assume there are also very few, if any Black women in the entire 100...so who exactly did she smother out to get her Hot Country Songs #1 hit? Why did she need to use her money to smother out other black country artists if they were not even remotely close to charting a Top Ten let alone a #1? And furthermore, why disregard the fact that several female country artists who are Black have had reported big boosts in streams. So smothering others out? Or boosting their success? Azealia needs to either do research or stop acting like because she feels something it's true. Edited March 21 by swissman 4
Fleahive Posted March 21 Posted March 21 6 minutes ago, superben said: She's somewhat right here. Wealth advantage is like 1000x more significant than any race advantage. Almost every person charting in the billboard 100 is wealthy what does that have to do with anything? Do you think Beyoncé debuted a billionaire or a millionaire? It took her decades to reach her financial status with smart business deals. Every person signed to a major label has the same power she has to make good music to attract a loyal fan base. There's a reason why other wealthy individuals FLOPPED when they tried to make music (Paris Hilton, Kim k) 5
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