charts discussion HDD FINAL: Bad Bunny #1 273k, Jack not even #2 110k

[fridayteenage]

20 minutes ago, PopFan1996 said:

It doesn't even reflect the profit earned from that debut.. You could have an album debuting lower but it made 2-3 times more profit than that #1 album. They need to recalibrate that formula asap. 

so if it becomes a profit chart, then a vinyl sale should count as multiple albums. possibly several.

 

good news for taylor.

[PopFan1996]

13 minutes ago, fridayteenage said:

so if it becomes a profit chart, then a vinyl sale should count as multiple albums. possibly several.

 

good news for taylor.

And for pure sales artists in general

[simmnfierzig]

20 minutes ago, Kamil24 said:

I've never heard of this Jack person so over 100K seems excellent tbh.

He debuted at #1 on the Hot 100 a few weeks ago. Guess that's why HDD overestimated him, but seems like that was just that 1 song that people really liked. It was viral on Tiktok before even officially released.

 

I had never heard of him before that either, so yeah 120k isnt bad at all I would say

[simmnfierzig]

4 minutes ago, PopFan1996 said:

And for pure sales artists in general

So you quote a post saying streaming should be worth more in the SPS formula with "exactly" and argue that streaming should be lower in the formula. I am confusion 

[Hunter_13]

Bad Bunny wow 

 

And Jack doing 120k is fine, amazing actually 

[WildHeart]

55 minutes ago, By the Water said:

The reality:

Year-End Top Artists 2009:

1. Taylor Swift

3. Lady Gaga

 

And that's not even Taylor's peak

 

 

OT: Congrats to Benito  The 300M streams club is reserved for the top tier of artists only. Some can't even get past 90M

 

 

[PopFan1996]

7 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said:

So you quote a post saying streaming should be worth more in the SPS formula with "exactly" and argue that streaming should be lower in the formula. I am confusion 

I read it wrong. I thought that person meant to increase the denominator they divide the streams by to translate them to sales.   

Edited May 7, 2022 by PopFan1996

[Hot Volcano]

1 hour ago, Ribs said:

She outstreams Bad Bunny in almost every single week in US for the past 5 years, and will continue to outstream him after 1-2 weeks.

They both are approximately 5-6 times bigger than Gaga ever was so there is really no competition here

 

the delusion

 

2009 Billboard Year-End Charts
#2 Poker Face
#3 Just Dance

#3 The Fame

 

Taylor never had two songs in the top 3 on the YEC charts in the same year + an album in the top 3 during that same year  Not to mention Gaga had six back to back #1s on Pop radio, again, something Taylor never achieved   

 

 

Bad Bunny's album in spanish being more streamed than any Taylor album EVER definitely means he's on his way to become bigger than she ever was.

 

 

Edited May 7, 2022 by Hot Volcano

[Ribs]

6 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said:

the delusion

 

1 hour ago, By the Water said:

The reality:

Year-End Top Artists 2009:

1. Taylor Swift

3. Lady Gaga

 

And that's not even Taylor's peak

 

 

P.S. Taylor will continue to outstream bad bunny in US and latter will continue to outstream her WW

Both will outstream ga ga (an artist from 2009) by 4-5 times 

 

Edited May 7, 2022 by Ribs

[Hot Volcano]

2 minutes ago, Ribs said:

 

 

P.S. Taylor will continue to outstream bad bunny in US and latter will continue to outstream her WW

Both will outstream ga ga (an artist from 2009) by 4-5 times 

 

We are talking about a peak here -> the combination of album, singles and touring success during a certain year. 

 

2009 Year-End Chart

#1 Fearless
#3 The Fame
#2 Poker Face

#3 Just Dance
#5 Love Story
#11 You Belong With Me
#35 LoveGame
#52 Paparazzi
#76 White Horse

 

Touring stats 

The Monster Ball Tour - $227m
Fearless Tour - $66.5m

 

Clearly, Gaga wins overall

 

 

 

Can't wait for Bad Bunny's tour so we can compare his peak to some of his peers just like we just did with Gaga and Taylor!

 

This album is showing a lot of potential, can't wait for Billboard's final numbers!

 

[Michael196]

1 hour ago, Hot Volcano said:

Not true, not even Taylor's peak can be compared to Gaga's peak in the US and especially WW

You can keep that peak and hold on it forever sweetie, we all know who’s bigger both in the US and WW

[GoodGuyGoneGhetto]

Why are we comparing Taylor Swift to Bad Bunny?

 

 

I’m happy for his streaming numbers, but let’s not act is if the global Spotify expansion hasn’t heavily helped his case.

 

He’s having a lovely peak right now but let’s not push it. He might be on track to be bigger than her WW but the argument that he’s currently bigger in the U.S is insane. If that’s the case, and streaming is the goal here, then so is Post Malone and J.Cole. 

Edited May 7, 2022 by GoodGuyGoneGhetto

[The Witch]

Tryna come the same day as Benito? Rethink it.

 

[Kylizzle]

Men have to do 20+ tracks to get streaming records like this kii. Olivia only needed 11 but congrats to Bad Bunny

[Baby Judas]

Why is that every HDD thread of a huge album debut, gays manage to turn it to a Taylor vs every other artists thread? You gays are weird. Take that insecurity somewhere else. 

[Ribs]

16 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said:

2009 Year-End Chart

#1 Fearless
#3 The Fame
#2 Poker Face

#3 Just Dance
#5 Love Story
#11 You Belong With Me
#35 LoveGame
#52 Paparazzi
#76 White Horse

 

 

So Taylor > Gaga, cool talk 

 

 

OT: 

 

Congrats to Mr. Music Industry, no 8M daily streams artists allowed.

 

[Headlock]

57 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said:

We are talking about a peak here -> the combination of album, singles and touring success during a certain year. 

 

2009 Year-End Chart

#1 Fearless
#3 The Fame
#2 Poker Face

#3 Just Dance
#5 Love Story
#11 You Belong With Me
#35 LoveGame
#52 Paparazzi
#76 White Horse

 

Touring stats 

The Monster Ball Tour - $227m
Fearless Tour - $66.5m

 

Clearly, Gaga wins overall

 

 

 

Can't wait for Bad Bunny's tour so we can compare his peak to some of his peers just like we just did with Gaga and Taylor!

 

This album is showing a lot of potential, can't wait for Billboard's final numbers!

 

Not you talking about 2009 and then using a tour that lasted until mid-2011 

 

Edited May 7, 2022 by Headlock

[BloodLuster]

3 hours ago, Hot Volcano said:

He is coming to top Taylor's biggest week streaming-wise and therefore officially become bigger than her in the US aswell

living rent free on your mind, huh ?

 

Edited May 7, 2022 by BloodLuster

[davorincek]

2 hours ago, Bloodflowers. said:

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[WildHeart]

#That user tried to hide behind Adele, failed and already searching for new artists to hide behind now? You would think he has learned the lesson by now. 

 

Does it seriously worth the embarrassment... 

[Brando]

2 hours ago, PopFan1996 said:

EXACTLY.
 

It doesn't even reflect the profit earned from that debut.. You could have an album debuting lower but it made 2-3 times more profit than that #1 album. They need to recalibrate that formula asap. 

People always argue with me over this point, but it's painfully obvious that streaming to sales ratio is underweighed. We don't see many (or even any) diamond albums in digital age. But if you look at any previous eras you'd see plenty. Current breed of top artists are also mega popular and their albums spend much longer on the charts, but somehow can't reach the same certifications. It just doesn't make sense 

[305]

And people were doubting him in that one thread asking who would be #1

[Yuanyu]

34 minutes ago, Brando said:

People always argue with me over this point, but it's painfully obvious that streaming to sales ratio is underweighed. We don't see many (or even any) diamond albums in digital age. But if you look at any previous eras you'd see plenty. Current breed of top artists are also mega popular and their albums spend much longer on the charts, but somehow can't reach the same certifications. It just doesn't make sense 

Using time on the charts is what makes no sense at all.

Today 1,500 people listening to 30 seconds of the same song a day makes 1 sale. It is not necessary to stream the whole album to be counted as sales, so I consider the formula to be very advantageous since in most cases it does not reflect the popularity of an album, but of a song. 

[Redstreak]

4 hours ago, BnPac said:

I am always disappointed by streaming numbers, you hear someone broke the one-day record and the album itself did more than 140M which is huge yet it just amounts to 200-250k. It just seems underwhelming when compared to the peaks artists reached with digital /physical sales. 

That’s what happens when most of these new artists are only bolstered by free little streams and not worth the money of actually buying the album 

[wwshooter]

I am under that he is only huge on Spotify, that will explain the only 200k sps, as Apple Music is almost same as Spotify in US, and Amazon Music is roughly 1/3?