base talk 5 biggest Latina artists in the US ever?

[Erreur2 La Nature]

Shakira, JLo, Selena Gomez, Camila Cabello, don't know the fifth one

[Julia Fox]

3 minutes ago, SavagePapi said:

 

J.Lo is Puerto Rican. She always been proud of her roots since Day 1. She's been singing in Spanish since her debut album. "No Me Ames" (1999) went #1 on thr BB Latin Songs chart for 7 weeks, and was BB Latin's 3rd Most Succcessful Song of 1999. Her debut also had "Una Noche Mas" ("Waiting For Tonight" Spanish Version) that did really well on the Latin charts, and other Latin-influenced tracks like "Let's Get Loud".

 

And she did not get fame due to her relationship with Marc Anthony lol. Rewind 30 years ago, and she was in her first big featured film that was in english/spanish called "Mi Familia" ("My Family"). Not too mention, she had her breakthrough role with "Selena". I don't think there was anyone that thought she wasn't Latina. Hell, it's why "Selena's" director felt she was overlooked by the Oscars.

 

P.S. - J.Lo created a demo in Spanish right before she was signed to Sony. Tommy Mottolla told her she should sing in English instead. The more we all know. 

I didn’t said she get famous because of that relationship, I said she gained a lot of monumentum and fame for that relationship that cemented her as a Latina certified for the GP… if she wouldn’t be with Marc her career would have been pretty different -I don’t know if better or worse tho- and her recognition in Latin America wouldn’t be that huge like it’s today…

Edited May 6, 2022 by Julia Fox

[SavagePapi]

16 minutes ago, Julia Fox said:

I didn’t said she get famous because of that relationship, I said she gained a lot of monumentum and fame for that relationship that cemented her as a Latina certified for the GP… if she wouldn’t be with Marc her career would have been pretty different -I don’t know if better or worse tho- and her recognition in Latin America wouldn’t be that huge like it’s today…

Are you talking about the "Como Ama Una Mujer" era, and worldwide?

 

Cause I felt like she cemented herself in the states in 1999. "No Me Ames" was massive at the time, and is a Latin classic. "Let's Get Loud" & "Una Noche Mas" did extremely well too. Her other Spanish versions of her smash hits did really well too over the years and winning her various Latin awards.

 

But I guess I can agree that Marc helped with her image during the Spanish album era. Oddly enough, she working on that album since 2004. I guess God's timing is always right.

 

Edited May 6, 2022 by SavagePapi

[Luckitty]

in no particular order:

 

Olivia Rodrigo

Ariana Grande

Taylor Swift

Lana Del Rey

Nelly Furtado

[Yudelkis]

1 hour ago, Julia Fox said:

Jlo isn’t Latina

1 hour ago, Ger.vaz said:

is JLo even latina?

She's just the reason of the existence of Latina Magazine lol.

1996

 

@SavagePapi She was an actress at first and she was seen as a Latin Actress. GTFO with Marc Anthony, at that time she was married with Ojani and he's Cuban.

 

Are you worried to see as a "the type of latin actress" ?

 

[Yudelkis]

24 minutes ago, SavagePapi said:

Cause I felt like she cemented herself in the states in 1999.

No, In 1998 : Baila is her first song, and it was produced by Emilio Estefan (Gloria Estefan husband).

@CosTaSsSs @getback Flop fan spotted. 

[getback]

JLo

Xtina

Selena Gomez

Camila

Shakira

[Julia Fox]

32 minutes ago, SavagePapi said:

Are you talking about the "Como Ama Una Mujer" era, and worldwide?

 

Cause I felt like she cemented herself in the states in 1999. "No Me Ames" was massive at the time, and is a Latin classic. "Let's Get Loud" & "Una Noche Mas" did extremely well too. Her other Spanish versions of her smash hits did really well too over the years and winning her various Latin awards.

 

But I guess I can agree that Marc helped with her image during the Spanish album era. Oddly enough, she working on that album since 2004. I guess God's timing is always right.

 

Literally I agree with everything that you has pointed lol i just said that she was first known musically as an English speaking singer and that’s not a bad thing because then she proved to have hits in Spanish to consider her a Latin pop girl lol but here in Chile during 2005-2011 was talked on the media just by her relationship with Marc and also her songs get a lot of radio play because of that… I don’t know if she would have released English songs it would have been that popular here and in LatAm in general so I think it was the right direction because LatAm is a very loyal market and not ageist with woman at all… she can have some cute radio plays and streaming/digital hits if she wants to tho 

[Ricardo1993]

2 hours ago, Julia Fox said:

Shakira 

Gloria Estefan 

Selena Quintanilla not the other talentless 

Jlo

Celia Cruz 

 

Thalia and Paulina had cute peaks but their monumentum and mark on the Latin industry is now non existent and so is for the other industries like the American or European… while Camila and Xtina are not latinas and I would say Jlo isn’t Latina either but at least she have more songs in Spanish than Camila, Xtina and Gomez and have embraced that more than the others and she’s an icon so I count her 

Wtf? Who are you to deny someones heritage? I don't like Camilla but she is latina. Her mom is Cuban and her dad is Mexican. Christina's father is Ecuadorian who likely has indigenous grandparents. J.Lo is Puerto Rican like myself, most of us are a mixture of European, African and Taino indian. While her father does look white, her mother is obviously a woman of color. J.Lo looks mixed like most of us do. 

[Julia Fox]

2 minutes ago, Ricardo1993 said:

Wtf? Who are you to deny someones heritage? I don't like Camilla but she is latina. Her mom is Cuban and her dad is Mexican. Christina's father is Ecuadorian who likely has indigenous grandparents. J.Lo is Puerto Rican like myself, most of us are a mixture of European, African and Taino indian. While her father does look white, her mother is obviously a woman of color. J.Lo looks mixed like most of us do. 

I meant that they are not Latin pop artists, they barely had some songs on Spanish besides her heritage and also are more known by their English hits than the Spanish ones 

[Yudelkis]

Let's stop trying to make every light skin Latino, white ! When they are obviously not.

 

No one is confusing JLo or her family for white people in New York City.

 

They won't be treated like white people in any racist redneck town in the US.

 

Calling Lopez or Cabello as white woman is insane.

[SavagePapi]

44 minutes ago, Yudelkis said:

No, In 1998 : Baila is her first song, and it was produced by Emilio Estefan (Gloria Estefan husband).

@CosTaSsSs @getback Flop fan spotted. 

I totally forgot about this one!

 

Technically, it's her first record, but to be fair, this was not her debut single. It was just part of a soundtrack.

 

It further proves the point though. She was pushed as a Latin crossover artist who sang in both English and Spanish; mostly in English with Latin influences. She even named her sound as "Latin-Soul".

[Ger.vaz]

Jlo latina? She was born in NYC and doesn‘t even speak Spanish, Portuguese or any latin language. 
 

it is as if we say Shakira is the biggest middle east artist ever just because her last Name and roots 

[Post Malone]

1 hour ago, Erreur2 La Nature said:

Shakira, JLo, Selena Gomez, Camila Cabello, don't know the fifth one

period

[Rafael]

Shakira

Selena

Gloria Stefan

JLo

Thalia/Paulina

[Yudelkis]

25 minutes ago, Ger.vaz said:

Jlo latina? She was born in NYC and doesn‘t even speak Spanish, Portuguese or any latin language. 

She sings in Portuguese, bye again. @SavagePapi 

[brainmaniac]

1 hour ago, Ricardo1993 said:

Wtf? Who are you to deny someones heritage? I don't like Camilla but she is latina. Her mom is Cuban and her dad is Mexican. Christina's father is Ecuadorian who likely has indigenous grandparents. J.Lo is Puerto Rican like myself, most of us are a mixture of European, African and Taino indian. While her father does look white, her mother is obviously a woman of color. J.Lo looks mixed like most of us do. 

Yeah, Christina and JLO are definitely Latina. Christina’s dad clearly has indigenous roots and it’s even more evident when you look at the grandparents. Same when you look at JLO’s grandparents. The amount of ignorant people in here ignorant about that in here  and about Latino identity in general is astounding  

 

Anyway, the Top 5 in overall US success definitely include

Christina Aguilera 

Jennifer Lopez

Linda Ronstadt

Gloria Estefan 

 

I’m not sure who the fifth choice would be. I don’t know if Shakira has enough overall US success to be included since her success is mainly in the Latin market. It could be between whoever is the most successful between Demi Lovato, Selena Gomez, and Camilla Cabello. I guess Mariah Carey, but she doesn’t seem to claim her Latina background much and she’s usually not included on these kinds of lists

 

 

 

[SavagePapi]

1 hour ago, Ger.vaz said:

Jlo latina? She was born in NYC and doesn‘t even speak Spanish, Portuguese or any latin language. 
 

it is as if we say Shakira is the biggest middle east artist ever just because her last Name and roots 

J.Lo is Latina. She is a product of two 100% Puerto Rican parents. She also speaks Spanish. She isn't proficient; she's intermediate. She knows enough to understand and communicate. Countless interviews showcase that. Denying and/or discrediting her roots is extremely problematic by the way.

 

And with your logic, Selena Quintanilla, Marc Anthony, Jenni Rivera, Romeo Santos (including Aventura), Nicky Jam, etc. are not Latinos either.

[NausAllien]

Xtina

Shakira

JLo

Selena Quintanilla

Gloria Stefan

[Protocol]

Gloria Estefan

Shakira

Christina Aguilera

Jennifer Lopez

Camila Cabello

[dirrtydiana]

2 hours ago, Ger.vaz said:

Jlo latina? She was born in NYC and doesn‘t even speak Spanish, Portuguese or any latin language

? 
 

Puerto Rico

Official languages

 

 

Spanish

English

[Ferret]

8 hours ago, Souvenir said:

selena gomez is bigger than selena u know that right?  

Whaaaaaaaaaaat  log off so you stop embarrassing yourself 

[Souvenir]

2 minutes ago, Ferret said:

Whaaaaaaaaaaat  log off so you stop embarrassing yourself 

????? she outdid her in everywhere and everything, OSHs are something else i swear

[Protocol]

Selena Quintanilla is an icon but she never crossed over to the mainstream or to a global audience. Her highest-charting single ever only reached #22 on the Hot 100. Never charted anywhere outside of the Americas. 

 

It may sound weird but at this point after literally a decade of international hits Selena Gomez IS indeed bigger than her when it comes to success. Whether or not she will have a bigger legacy is up for debate. I think Selena G is underrated in that department, she kind of low key spearheaded a bunch of trends in the mid 2010s from whipser vocals ("Good for You") to minimalist bass-first pop ("Bad Liar"). In fact Billie's sound can be directly traced to those two singles.

[Zaynsus]

Only counting the Latinas who released Latin music and have made an impact with it.

 

Shakira

Jennifer Lopez

Thalia

Gloria Estefan

Paulina Rubio