base talk Is Britney spears the reason Pop girls are not respected??

[Abracadabra]

29 minutes ago, NausAllien said:

You won't see many ARTISTS claiming to be inspired by Britney ARTISTICALLY. It is mostly her performance style, etc. that has been an inspiration for some, but not her musical/vocal ability.

 You can't be delusional enough to believe this

[BionicWooHoo]

9 minutes ago, dirrtydiana said:

your brain must be in such great shape with all the mental gymnastics you do! I’m jealous 

Don’t care about these personal insults. Again deflecting from how Britney is rude human being in addition to being a manufactured product that set the trend in pop stars having no vocal ability 

[The_Bling]

Nah, it's all rooted in misogyny. Any excuse is a good excuse to **** on a woman and not give her her deserved accolades. Britney became the biggest target simply because of being the most recognizable face of the movement. Trust that even if she sang live and wrote her music, people would find something else to drag her down with. That says more about her power and chokehold on pop culture than on her alleged talent, or lack of. 

[Jude]

Yeah, she and Madonna created this stereotype that you don't have to be a good singer to be a popstar.

Edited May 2, 2022 by Jude

[postsus]

5 minutes ago, Miichael said:

 You can't be delusional enough to believe this

It’s true. Gaga herself loves Britney performance and iconic styles, never seen her say anything about her music or ”singing” abilities.

 

[J Legend X]

1 hour ago, Diocles said:

 

Beyonce lipsyncs too 

 

 

but beyonce has proven her talent...

[dirrtydiana]

6 minutes ago, BionicWooHoo said:

Don’t care about these personal insults. Again deflecting from how Britney is rude human being in addition to being a manufactured product that set the trend in pop stars having no vocal ability 

It’s literally a complement. yet you have no problem personally insulting a successful woman you don’t know, I-

 

please define and use the word “deflect” in a sentence cause chile 

read the room sweetie, the vast majority in this thread already proved with facts she’s neither manufactured nor rude. God bless! 

 

 

[Cruel Summer]

Britney Spears’ public image, shaped for decades by tabloid demons and narratives constructed by her wretched father, was never going to move the needle on how pop music is perceived. Pinning it on her rather than acknowledging the misogyny from which negative perception of pop originates - most things that seem “girly” or that are broadly liked by girls are ridiculed even today - is weird.

[Death On Two Legs]

I’d say Madonna is, but unlike Britney, Madge is not completely devoid of talent. I’d said it before, and I’ll say it again. It doesn’t get any lower, and less talented by not singing your own songs. With that being said, I think Britney hold some responsibility. Look no further than someone like Selena Gomez.

[Abracadabra]

9 minutes ago, postsus said:

It’s true. Gaga herself loves Britney performance and iconic styles, never seen her say anything about her music or ”singing” abilities.

 

Gaga has called Britney "wildly talented", "the queen of pop", and said that "the industry would not be the same without her"... But sure.... and even if Gaga hadn't, you do realise that Gaga isn't the only artist in the industry, right? Countless other artists have praised Britney's artistry and talent. Please don't talk on things you have little knowledge of

 

 

[Ger]

Nah, misogyny and... 

1 hour ago, KillingYourCareer said:

Pop stars aren't not respected because of Britney Spears, but because people are pretentious and think that anything fun and carefree = shallow and worthless

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[Both Sides Now]

26 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said:

Britney Spears’ public image, shaped for decades by tabloid demons and narratives constructed by her wretched father, was never going to move the needle on how pop music is perceived. Pinning it on her rather than acknowledging the misogyny from which negative perception of pop originates - most things that seem “girly” or that are broadly liked by girls are ridiculed even today - is weird.

This spill. 

[dreampop]

no

 

[brainmaniac]

Definitely. If Britney is supposed to have played such a strong role in the positive aspects that came from pop music, then she definitely played a role in the negative perception and stereotypes that came from it too. 

[Jay07]

14 minutes ago, dreampop said:

no

 

The waiter in the background just staring, I-

[postsus]

1 hour ago, Miichael said:

Gaga has called Britney "wildly talented", "the queen of pop", and said that "the industry would not be the same without her"... But sure.... and even if Gaga hadn't, you do realise that Gaga isn't the only artist in the industry, right? Countless other artists have praised Britney's artistry and talent. Please don't talk on things you have little knowledge of

 

 

Please. The ones praising Britney’a ”artistry” and ”talent” are questionable. I know someone who is praised by the legends.

 

[brenda-walsh]

pop music has been and will always be disrespected by the GP

 

you think that The Carpenters, ABBA, Madonna, Backstreet Boys, etc were all respected and that Britney is really at fault for this?

[dirrtydiana]

2 minutes ago, postsus said:

I know someone who is praised by the legends.

 

 

so do we

[Abracadabra]

12 minutes ago, postsus said:

Please. The ones praising Britney’a ”artistry” and ”talent” are questionable. I know someone who is praised by the legends.

 

Sure sweetie, keep telling yourself whatever you need to in order to cope

 

[Chris]

3 hours ago, Mr. Stratus said:

Madonna too before her a bit with her antics. Obviously a female  become an overnight sensation, hugely popular, but being seen to not write a word or singing music live kind of perpetuated what you described with GP and they make the blanket assumption  ‘pop is all a label product’ . But that wasn’t all on Britney no, spice girls got flack (posh) for not being good singers.
 

That’s why Lady Gaga coming on in 2008 doing all those interviews, piano performances etc and scoring the big hits really was the ‘anti’ of the ‘famous for being famous’ and brought a lot back to pop. What should’ve been a other blonde woman lip-synching at first listen to her music, so totally wasn’t

[BionicWooHoo]

1 hour ago, dirrtydiana said:

It’s literally a complement. yet you have no problem personally insulting a successful woman you don’t know, I-

 

please define and use the word “deflect” in a sentence cause chile 

read the room sweetie, the vast majority in this thread already proved with facts she’s neither manufactured nor rude. God bless! 

 

 

The room? Why should I care what the room thinks when the room is filled with people who stan a talentless manufactured product? Do you always let how the “room” feels dictate your opinion? Do you not have opinions of your own or something? 
 

And I literally see you in other threads insulting a woman who makes more money in a year than you and your entire family make in your entire lifetimes and you’re accusing me of “attacking successful women”? Lmaoooo. I like how when you have no logic to fall back upon, you’ve gone from hiding behind personal attacks to now hiding behind “caring about misogyny” 

[dirrtydiana]

30 minutes ago, BionicWooHoo said:

The room? Why should I care what the room thinks when the room is filled with people who stan a talentless manufactured product? Do you always let how the “room” feels dictate your opinion? Do you not have opinions of your own or something? 
 

And I literally see you in other threads insulting a woman who makes more money in a year than you and your entire family make in your entire lifetimes and you’re accusing me of “attacking successful women”? Lmaoooo. I like how when you have no logic to fall back upon, you’ve gone from hiding behind personal attacks to now hiding behind “caring about misogyny” 

so now you don’t care what users think but in the other thread you were co-signing others who slightly aligned with your deluded narrative that day. How the turntables 

 

i didn’t know you were my accountant! You must be as you seem to know how much my and my family’s estate is 

 

speaking facts=/=attacking successful women I don’t know. I didn’t start the misogyny convo and I certainly did not hide behind personal attacks like you…

 

your post literally serving this

 

 

Edited May 3, 2022 by dirrtydiana

[abrahamjmr]

1 hour ago, Death On Two Legs said:

I’d say Madonna is, but unlike Britney, Madge is not completely devoid of talent. I’d said it before, and I’ll say it again. It doesn’t get any lower, and less talented by not singing your own songs. With that being said, I think Britney hold some responsibility. Look no further than someone like Selena Gomez.

Britney didn’t sing a few of her songs in an album her father forced her to record, which is different. Prior to that and before that, she sang her music.

 

This the type of narrative some like to sell about Britney as if she didn’t have any talent at all. There are videos of Spears proving why she’s a singer and the fact that she got her record deal by singing a Whitney song in front of several label. 
 

If anything, it’s all rooted misogyny from the media and the some people in the public. Britney was a great performer, she proved she could decently sing in her early years and co-wrote a bunch of her songs. She came up with the concept of most of her videos and knew what she wanted as an artist.

 

The fact that she’s got one of the most iconic videography out there yet award shows like the VMAs paid her dust until it was convenient enough for them to jump in the “Britney rising like a phoenix” narrative.

[CarCAL22]

The music industry has been plagued with misogyny well before Britney was even born...especially with "pop girls"  what is this mess?

 

ATRL is really overrun with uneducated middle schoolers these days 

[Death On Two Legs]

25 minutes ago, abrahamjmr said:

Britney didn’t sing a few of her songs in an album her father forced her to record, which is different. Prior to that and before that, she sang her music.

 

This the type of narrative some like to sell about Britney as if she didn’t have any talent at all. There are videos of Spears proving why she’s a singer and the fact that she got her record deal by singing a Whitney song in front of several label. 
 

If anything, it’s all rooted misogyny from the media and the some people in the public. Britney was a great performer, she proved she could decently sing in her early years and co-wrote a bunch of her songs. She came up with the concept of most of her videos and knew what she wanted as an artist.

 

The fact that she’s got one of the most iconic videography out there yet award shows like the VMAs paid her dust until it was convenient enough for them to jump in the “Britney rising like a phoenix” narrative.

I’m sorry but what type of an excuse is that? Are you saying that she didn’t show up for studio sessions - so someone had to fill in? I can’t even make sense of what you are even implying.