charts discussion Dua Lipa vs Billie EIlish vs Justin Bieber vs Harry Styles - Tour success

[More Than A Melody]

On 4/16/2022 at 8:08 PM, More Than A Melody said:

If we count by final tally numbers of the whole tour Harry's will be bigger. He has 76 shows (iirc) and he's gonna add Australia Asia and a North American leg in stadiums imo, for 2023. Remember he's combining Fine Line with Harry's House because of COVID (well, Justin and Billie are also combining right? Dua isn't because her eras are so long). The numbers right now are just arena shows in America.

 

[UnusualBoy]

Harry's doing amazing

 

Let's hope Justin finishes this tour cuz he canceled like 15 dates from the last one, due to "exhaustion"

[Papi Juancho]

2 hours ago, More Than A Melody said:

 

His team was smart to name the tour like that an not with an specific era.  

 

He could do a second North American leg promoting HS3 

[More Than A Melody]

22 minutes ago, Papi Juancho said:

His team was smart to name the tour like that an not with an specific era.  

 

He could do a second North American leg promoting HS3 

He will lol, all stadiums, Asia is the only one I'm wondering about but he should do Asia too

[unclefloprry]

Congrats Justin 
 

 

 

[More Than A Melody]

11 hours ago, unclefloprry said:

Congrats Justin 
 

 

 

Key word 2022 baby. Harry's tour includes 2021 and 2023 

[JCsNumba1Fan]

2 hours ago, More Than A Melody said:

Key word 2022 baby. Harry's tour includes 2021 and 2023 

Clocked. 
 

Harry coming for three calendar years worth of touring gross. 

Edited April 21, 2022 by JCsNumba1Fan

[sickboy]

JB will gross like $100M in NA alone, and the fact that it's his weakest market is wild. He is coming for $300M.

[sickboy]

JB > Harry > Billie > Dua I think (based on the dates announced).

 

[More Than A Melody]

45 minutes ago, sickboy said:

JB will gross like $100M in NA alone, and the fact that it's his weakest market is wild. He is coming for $300M.

 

1 hour ago, sickboy said:

JB > Harry > Billie > Dua I think (based on the dates announced).

 

Harry grossed 95M with US arenas only (no Canada, no Mexico). He's doing Europe (stadiums and arenas), South America (stadiums and arenas), and Oceania (stadiums), and he's gonna announce stadiums for North America and probably arenas/stadiums for Asia. Harry will end up on top.

 

EUROPE

Spoiler

Netherlands	Justin	34,000	2 concerts
	Harry	17,000	1 concert
Germany	Justin	82,000	5 concerts
	Harry	109,500	4 concerts
Switzerland	Justin	13,000	1 concert
	Harry		X
Portugal	Justin	20,100	1 concert
	Harry	20,100	1 concert
Spain	Justin	35,413	2 concerts
	Harry	17,453	1 concert
Italy	Justin	40,000	2 concerts
	Harry	33,347	2 concerts
Scotland	Justin	29,300	2 concerts
	Harry	50,817	1 concert
England	Justin	146,943	8 concerts
	Harry	280,000	4 concerts
France	Justin	40,600	2 concerts
	Harry	20,300	1 concert
Hungary	Justin	12,500	1 concert
	Harry	12,500	1 concert
Czech Republic	Justin	20,000	1 concert
	Harry	20,000	1 concert
Sweden	Justin	45,000	1 concert
	Harry	45,000	1 concert
Denmark	Justin	32,000	2 concerts
	Harry	16,000	1 concert
Belgium	Justin	46,718	2 concerts
	Harry	23,359	1 concert
Austria	Justin	16,152	1 concert
	Harry	16,152	1 concert
Poland	Justin	22,000	1 concert
	Harry	22,000	1 concert
Ireland	Justin		X
	Harry	65,000	1 concert
Norway	Justin		X
	Harry	25,000	1 concert

Justin Total (34 concerts) 635,726

Harry Total (24 concerts) 793,528

 

LATIN AMERICA

Spoiler

Brazil	Justin	126,000	3 concerts
	Harry	98,768	3 concerts
Chile	Justin	60,000	1 concert
	Harry	25,000	1 concert
Argentina	Justin	106,000	2 concerts
	Harry	144,108	2 concerts
Mexico	Justin		*
	Harry	162,599	4 concerts
Colombia	Justin		X
	Harry	25,000	1 concert
Peru	Justin		X
	Harry	25,000	1 concert

Justin Total (6 concerts): 292,000

Harry Total (12 concerts): 480,475

 

* For Justin I didn't count Mexico, as he's not doing a "Latin American" leg, he's doing a South American leg. Mexico is part of his North American leg and presumably included in the 100M you mentioned. But just in case, Mexico isolated for both Harry and Justin:

Justin (4 concerts) 170,685

Harry (4 concerts) 162,599

 

OCEANIA

 

Spoiler

Australia	Justin	185,847	4 concerts
	Harry	243,347	4 concerts
New Zealand	Justin	47,000	1 concert
	Harry	47,000	1 concert

Justin Total (5 concerts) 232,847

Harry total (5 concerts) 290,347

*Harry might announce more Oceania shows. His concert dates are spread very apart and the tickets haven't gone on sale yet. We'll see.

 

So for comparable legs (announced)

Justin Total (45 concerts): 1,160,573

Harry Total (41 concerts): 1,564,350 +403,777

 

Of course, Harry hasn't announced Asia and he's gonna want to tour Harry's House in North America (and will probably do so in stadiums), so that'll add to him. Meanwhile Justin already announced concerts for:

 

South Africa (2) 149,736 total

Asia (10) 496,251 total

 

All in all Justin would be ahead by 242,210 tickets. But... I'm afraid Harry is gonna absolutely destroy that with North America II, nevermind Asia or more Oceania dates.

 

Let's keep in mind tho, that these are all maximum capacities and with stadiums (which both Harry and Justin have a ton of) the final capacities can be a lot smaller.

[Green]

On 4/21/2022 at 1:41 AM, unclefloprry said:

Congrats Justin 
 

 

 

 

Bad Bunny over 300 million??? 

[sickboy]

15 hours ago, More Than A Melody said:

 

Harry grossed 95M with US arenas only (no Canada, no Mexico). He's doing Europe (stadiums and arenas), South America (stadiums and arenas), and Oceania (stadiums), and he's gonna announce stadiums for North America and probably arenas/stadiums for Asia. Harry will end up on top.

 

EUROPE

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Netherlands	Justin	34,000	2 concerts
	Harry	17,000	1 concert
Germany	Justin	82,000	5 concerts
	Harry	109,500	4 concerts
Switzerland	Justin	13,000	1 concert
	Harry		X
Portugal	Justin	20,100	1 concert
	Harry	20,100	1 concert
Spain	Justin	35,413	2 concerts
	Harry	17,453	1 concert
Italy	Justin	40,000	2 concerts
	Harry	33,347	2 concerts
Scotland	Justin	29,300	2 concerts
	Harry	50,817	1 concert
England	Justin	146,943	8 concerts
	Harry	280,000	4 concerts
France	Justin	40,600	2 concerts
	Harry	20,300	1 concert
Hungary	Justin	12,500	1 concert
	Harry	12,500	1 concert
Czech Republic	Justin	20,000	1 concert
	Harry	20,000	1 concert
Sweden	Justin	45,000	1 concert
	Harry	45,000	1 concert
Denmark	Justin	32,000	2 concerts
	Harry	16,000	1 concert
Belgium	Justin	46,718	2 concerts
	Harry	23,359	1 concert
Austria	Justin	16,152	1 concert
	Harry	16,152	1 concert
Poland	Justin	22,000	1 concert
	Harry	22,000	1 concert
Ireland	Justin		X
	Harry	65,000	1 concert
Norway	Justin		X
	Harry	25,000	1 concert

Justin Total (34 concerts) 635,726

Harry Total (24 concerts) 793,528

 

LATIN AMERICA

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Brazil	Justin	126,000	3 concerts
	Harry	98,768	3 concerts
Chile	Justin	60,000	1 concert
	Harry	25,000	1 concert
Argentina	Justin	106,000	2 concerts
	Harry	144,108	2 concerts
Mexico	Justin		*
	Harry	162,599	4 concerts
Colombia	Justin		X
	Harry	25,000	1 concert
Peru	Justin		X
	Harry	25,000	1 concert

Justin Total (6 concerts): 292,000

Harry Total (12 concerts): 480,475

 

* For Justin I didn't count Mexico, as he's not doing a "Latin American" leg, he's doing a South American leg. Mexico is part of his North American leg and presumably included in the 100M you mentioned. But just in case, Mexico isolated for both Harry and Justin:

Justin (4 concerts) 170,685

Harry (4 concerts) 162,599

 

OCEANIA

 

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Australia	Justin	185,847	4 concerts
	Harry	243,347	4 concerts
New Zealand	Justin	47,000	1 concert
	Harry	47,000	1 concert

Justin Total (5 concerts) 232,847

Harry total (5 concerts) 290,347

*Harry might announce more Oceania shows. His concert dates are spread very apart and the tickets haven't gone on sale yet. We'll see.

 

So for comparable legs (announced)

Justin Total (45 concerts): 1,160,573

Harry Total (41 concerts): 1,564,350 +403,777

 

Of course, Harry hasn't announced Asia and he's gonna want to tour Harry's House in North America (and will probably do so in stadiums), so that'll add to him. Meanwhile Justin already announced concerts for:

 

South Africa (2) 149,736 total

Asia (10) 496,251 total

 

All in all Justin would be ahead by 242,210 tickets. But... I'm afraid Harry is gonna absolutely destroy that with North America II, nevermind Asia or more Oceania dates.

 

Let's keep in mind tho, that these are all maximum capacities and with stadiums (which both Harry and Justin have a ton of) the final capacities can be a lot smaller.

I didn't include Mexico in that $100M. I believe his average will be $2M so $100M in US and Canada alone. 

 

But again, >based on the dates announced<, JB looks way ahead.

 

Justin:

US/Canada - $100M

Latin America - $35M (...still adding stadium shows)

Asia - $60-65M (...still adding stadium shows)

Africa - $5.5M

Oceania - $22-25M

Europe - $50-55M (will probably add more)

= $270-280M

 

Harry:

US - $95M

Europe - $55M

Latin America - $25M

Oceania - 20-22M

= $190-195M

[sickboy]

4 hours ago, Green said:

 

Bad Bunny over 300 million??? 

 

He completed his arena tour with $116.8 million and has a 42-date stadium tour this summer  so maybe $200M for it and $300M overall total for him this year is locked.

[UnusualBoy]

4 hours ago, Green said:

 

Bad Bunny over 300 million??? 

Mediocrity won.

[More Than A Melody]

56 minutes ago, sickboy said:

I didn't include Mexico in that $100M. I believe his average will be $2M so $100M in US and Canada alone. 

 

But again, >based on the dates announced<, JB looks way ahead.

 

Justin:

US/Canada - $100M

Latin America - $35M (...still adding stadium shows)

Asia - $60-65M (...still adding stadium shows)

Africa - $5.5M

Oceania - $22-25M

Europe - $50-55M (will probably add more)

= $270-280M

 

Harry:

US - $95M

Europe - $55M

Latin America - $25M

Oceania - 20-22M

= $190-195M

You say "based on dates announced JB looks way ahead" then proceed to say that JB will do 10M more in Latin America despite Harry having a bigger audience there (even if you include Mexico in the total)

 

Justin Total (6 concerts): 292,000 + 170,685 (Mexico, 4 concerts) = 462,685

Harry Total (12 concerts): 480,475

 

So where exactly are you getting 10M+ for Justin? Based on unannounced dates? That... contradicts what you just said.

 

Europe:

Justin Total (34 concerts) 635,726

Harry Total (24 concerts) 793,528

 

But you gave them both 55M..?? How? Because he'll "add more dates"? Then... it's not based on released dates 

 

Oceania:

Justin Total (5 concerts) 232,847

Harry total (5 concerts) 290,347

 

But you gave Harry 20/22M and Justin 22/25M.... do you know how math works?

 

Especially considering that Harry's average gross for the US tour was $2,254,623 per show. Justin's is $1,843,644, at this point you're clearly not basing any of these numbers in reality lol.

 

In case you missed it the twenty-seven million times I said it, Harry is releasing an album in four weeks. An album he hasn't toured in North America at all. Whether North American dates are coming or not isn't a guess, it's a fact. They are coming. And considering the rate at which he sold tickets for the last leg, he's definitely gonna do stadiums... There is absolutely no way Justin ends up on top with Harry doing an extra US+Canada leg in stadiums.

 

EDIT: also, Justin has 55 dates total in North America including the 4 shows in Mexico, so excluding the Mexico dates and going by his verage so far:

 

51 x $1,843,644 = $94,025,844 aka lower than Harry's US (which had 42 shows and no Canada )

 

You snatched 6M in the US + 10M in Latin America + 3M+ in Oceania + the difference Harry will most likely make above Justin instead of your inflated numbers. 30M at least like it's nothing based only on you inflating Justin 

Edited April 22, 2022 by More Than A Melody

[Protocol]

Billie’s tour is probably the most profitable because it’s the cheapest. Just her and Finneas and some screens.

[unclefloprry]

1 hour ago, Protocol said:

Billie’s tour is probably the most profitable because it’s the cheapest. Just her and Finneas and some screens.

Harry's tour is him, a band and a big screen too 

[sickboy]

3 hours ago, More Than A Melody said:

You say "based on dates announced JB looks way ahead" then proceed to say that JB will do 10M more in Latin America despite Harry having a bigger audience there (even if you include Mexico in the total)

 

Justin Total (6 concerts): 292,000 + 170,685 (Mexico, 4 concerts) = 462,685

Harry Total (12 concerts): 480,475

 

So where exactly are you getting 10M+ for Justin? Based on unannounced dates? That... contradicts what you just said.

 

Europe:

Justin Total (34 concerts) 635,726

Harry Total (24 concerts) 793,528

 

But you gave them both 55M..?? How? Because he'll "add more dates"? Then... it's not based on released dates 

 

Oceania:

Justin Total (5 concerts) 232,847

Harry total (5 concerts) 290,347

 

But you gave Harry 20/22M and Justin 22/25M.... do you know how math works?

 

Especially considering that Harry's average gross for the US tour was $2,254,623 per show. Justin's is $1,843,644, at this point you're clearly not basing any of these numbers in reality lol.

 

In case you missed it the twenty-seven million times I said it, Harry is releasing an album in four weeks. An album he hasn't toured in North America at all. Whether North American dates are coming or not isn't a guess, it's a fact. They are coming. And considering the rate at which he sold tickets for the last leg, he's definitely gonna do stadiums... There is absolutely no way Justin ends up on top with Harry doing an extra US+Canada leg in stadiums.

 

EDIT: also, Justin has 55 dates total in North America including the 4 shows in Mexico, so excluding the Mexico dates and going by his verage so far:

 

51 x $1,843,644 = $94,025,844 aka lower than Harry's US (which had 42 shows and no Canada )

 

You snatched 6M in the US + 10M in Latin America + 3M+ in Oceania + the difference Harry will most likely make above Justin instead of your inflated numbers. 30M at least like it's nothing based only on you inflating Justin 

Bigger audience according to who? Numbers aren't even out  doesn't matter if someone has a bigger audience if the other artist who had less audience grossed more. Because at the end, that's what matters.

 

You look way too pressed for such small thing. Justin is clearly ahead Harry so far, it's a fact, and that was OP's question. If Harry surpass him, then he will surpass him and that's ok???  

 

Btw, I didn't know that he has extra date in Argentina and Mexico.

[More Than A Melody]

2 minutes ago, sickboy said:

Bigger audience according to who? Numbers aren't even out  

Bigger audience according to venue sizes

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doesn't matter if someone has a bigger audience if the other artist who had less audience grossed more. Because at the end, that's what matters.

 

But the other artist who had less audience grossed less  I literally gave you the average:

 

Harry: $2,254,623 per show

Justin: $1,843,644 per show

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You look way too pressed for such small thing.

 

We're talking about stats in a stats forum. Providing receipts isn't being pressed.

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Justin is clearly ahead Harry so far, it's a fact, and that was OP's question. If Harry surpass him, then he will surpass him and that's ok???  

 

Btw, I didn't know that he has extra date in Argentina and Mexico.

How is Justin "clearly ahead Harry so far"? 

 

So far:

Love On Tour: 94,694,158

Justice World Tour: 11,061,868

 

By the time Justin finishes the "100M in the US" you speak of, Harry will be done with his massive European tour.

 

If Justin surpasses Harry, then come back 

[sickboy]

47 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

Bigger audience according to venue sizes

 

But the other artist who had less audience grossed less  I literally gave you the average:

 

Harry: $2,254,623 per show

Justin: $1,843,644 per show

 

We're talking about stats in a stats forum. Providing receipts isn't being pressed.

How is Justin "clearly ahead Harry so far"? 

 

So far:

Love On Tour: 94,694,158

Justice World Tour: 11,061,868

 

By the time Justin finishes the "100M in the US" you speak of, Harry will be done with his massive European tour.

 

If Justin surpasses Harry, then come back 

At least wait for the dates to be reported. According to Billboard, the dates he performed from february to march is $2.1M average.

Edited April 22, 2022 by sickboy

[More Than A Melody]

5 minutes ago, sickboy said:

At least wait for the dates to be reported. According to Billboard, the dates he performed from february to march is $2.1M average.

Still lower than Harry's average. Still behind him in total. I think you're the one who's pressed 

[sickboy]

1 hour ago, More Than A Melody said:

Still lower than Harry's average. Still behind him in total. I think you're the one who's pressed 

The same number with less attendance and no 360 stage.

 

You are the one quoting everyone with 10 paragraphs per post. Seek help.

[ariananext]

On 4/17/2022 at 2:00 AM, Ivan_brit said:

Harry will probably add an Stadium Leg tour dates at the USA for next year… it will probably be announced after the album release  the rest of the dates are already sold out

 

 

Dua & Billie will gross arround the Same both will cross 100 million  both will get biggest Global tour of this year

 

 

The other guy Don’t know & don’t care didn’t he change Stadiums to arenas ? 

He sold out huge stadiums in Asia, South America and other continents in minutes  

[More Than A Melody]

23 minutes ago, sickboy said:

The same number with less attendance and no 360 stage.

 

You are the one quoting everyone with 10 paragraphs per post. Seek help.

The gratuitous aggression. You ARE pressed. Very funny.

[More Than A Melody]

Harry always manages to surprise me, he added 32 new North American dates doing arenas residencies

 

All around 600K more tickets. Total capacity for 2021/2022/2023 is around 3 million now (will probably be lower in the end)