Eóghan Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Alyssa Edwards said: I want Miss De Armas to land her first Lead Actress nomination. Imagine watching both movies and thinking Michelle Williams deserves it more for The Fabelmans gurl the same Michelle Williams who did a better job at playing Marylin than miss De Armas. sit down.
Alyssa Edwards Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 Just now, Eóghan said: gurl the same Michelle Williams who did a better job at playing Marylin than miss De Armas. sit down. 1. I haven't seen "My Week with Marilyn". 2. We're talking about Ana's wonderful performance against Michelle's nothingness in The Fabelblands. It's not 2011 anymore, gurl.
Kylizzle Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 I'll take the industry plant girl over Ana and White Michelle because it would be a kii
Riot Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) 95 years of Academy Awards and only ONE (1) non-white winner in the Best Actress category is so ridiculous, like... Edited January 16, 2023 by Riot
Frozen99 Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Riot said: 95 years of Academy Awards and only ONE (1) non-white winner in the Best Actress category is so ridiculous, like... still rooting for michelle
zoldyck Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) As an Asian, I don't want Yeoh to be rewarded because no Asian actress has won in 95 years or so. I want her to be win, because that performance was amazing. She carried the movie and it obviously connected with million of people. I always feels like argument/narrative like No POC have been awarded in xyz years so they should now, devalue the actual work. Edited January 16, 2023 by zoldyck
Donquizote Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 Hoping for biggest snub for BAFTA Best Actress
Donquizote Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 It's called Best Actress. I'm sure AMPAS will make the right choice and reward Queen Blanchett this time
CaptainMusic Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 7 hours ago, hausofdave said: in supporting actress not actor, which was the focal of my original answer. but if we were to go that route, then we literally had a POC BA winner last year. Best Actor is slightly more accepting of men of colour, whereas in 95 years only ONE woman of colour has won Best Actress and for a demeaning role where she plays an abusive mother who has an explicit sex scene with a white man, not a good look. It is the whitest category and as usual voters vote for POCs in the supporting category so they can feel good about themselves while giving the white actors the lead Oscars.
CaptainMusic Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, zoldyck said: As an Asian, I don't want Yeoh to be rewarded because no Asian actress has won in 95 years or so. I want her to be win, because that performance was amazing. She carried the movie and it obviously connected with million of people. I always feels like argument/narrative like No POC have been awarded in xyz years so they should now, devalue the actual work. The Oscars and life in general doesn’t work that way, it’s impossible to ignore the fact that Michelle will be the first Asian woman in over 80 years to be nominated, and the first who voters actually know is Asian. It will be taken into consideration and should be. The Oscars have rarely been about just the performance, even in upsets like Colman over Close, she had the much stronger film. And many white actresses have won mainly due to narratives like being overdue like Geraldine Page, Susan Sarandon, Kate Winslet, Meryl Streep, Julianne Moore etc. So making it about race in the whitest category is no different. Cate doesn’t need a 3rd Oscar, she will get another chance to win lead while this will likely be Yeoh’s only chance. See Angela Bassett possibly getting her 2nd nomination in 30 years and only 3 WOC receiving more than 1 nomination vs the tons of white actresses who have multiple. Edited January 16, 2023 by CaptainMusic
McNulty Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 1 hour ago, zoldyck said: As an Asian, I don't want Yeoh to be rewarded because no Asian actress has won in 95 years or so. I want her to be win, because that performance was amazing. She carried the movie and it obviously connected with million of people. I always feels like argument/narrative like No POC have been awarded in xyz years so they should now, devalue the actual work. do you really think the award these white women because they gave the best performance? PLZ Jessica Chastain won last year because she's "overdue" just like Laura Dern in BSA
truthteller Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, zoldyck said: As an Asian, I don't want Yeoh to be rewarded because no Asian actress has won in 95 years or so. I want her to be win, because that performance was amazing. She carried the movie and it obviously connected with million of people. I always feels like argument/narrative like No POC have been awarded in xyz years so they should now, devalue the actual work. PERIOD. that narrative screams tokenism at its finest. and her work is AMAZING and full of range in a sci-fi comedy which is so hard to pull off. Love Cate in TAR but EEAAO is just THAT film. (but if that can secure a win, then hand her the award and f*** them afterwards) Edited January 16, 2023 by truthteller
zoldyck Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, McNulty said: do you really think the award these white women because they gave the best performance? PLZ Jessica Chastain won last year because she's "overdue" just like Laura Dern in BSA 16 minutes ago, CaptainMusic said: The Oscars and life in general doesn’t work that way, it’s impossible to ignore the fact that Michelle will be the first Asian woman in over 80 years to be nominated, and the first who voters actually know is Asian. It will be taken into consideration and should be. The Oscars have rarely been about just the performance, even in upsets like Colman over Close, she had the much stronger film. And many white actresses have won mainly due to narratives like being overdue like Geraldine Page, Susan Sarandon, Kate Winslet, Meryl Streep, Julianne Moore etc. So making it about race in the whitest category is no different. Cate doesn’t need a 3rd Oscar, she will get another chance to win lead while this will likely be Yeoh’s only chance. See Angela Bassett possibly getting her 2nd nomination in 30 years and only 3 WOC receiving more than 1 nomination vs the tons of white actresses who have multiple. No I know its always more about narrative than performance. But again why do we have to bring whole race into it when Yeoh can be pushed as "overdue" for her work alone.
fridayteenage Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 Yeoh's speeches she's been able to make have highlighted how she wants to create opportunities for people like her going forward. That's why that specific narrative matters. It's not just about her. While Cate's thing for her stans is "well she's just better than everyone she has to win 3 times. No, 4 times!!!" But anyway, BFCA are the ones who a) led the charge on snubbing Zhang Ziyi who got Bafta/Globe/Sag noms. Oscars came up with 10 white actreses that year out of 10. BFCA went with 12/12. b) went with Bakalova over Youn, the Bafta/Sag/Oscar winner. So their doing this is not a surprise.
Green Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 1 hour ago, fridayteenage said: Yeoh's speeches she's been able to make have highlighted how she wants to create opportunities for people like her going forward. That's why that specific narrative matters. It's not just about her. While Cate's thing for her stans is "well she's just better than everyone she has to win 3 times. No, 4 times!!!" But anyway, BFCA are the ones who a) led the charge on snubbing Zhang Ziyi who got Bafta/Globe/Sag noms. Oscars came up with 10 white actreses that year out of 10. BFCA went with 12/12. b) went with Bakalova over Youn, the Bafta/Sag/Oscar winner. So their doing this is not a surprise. Or Meryl's narrative of winning a 3rd Oscar after 30 years over Viola's narrative to keep making history for black actresses in lead?
okgo Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) Colin should win both for his role and for the career narrative imo but after last night it rly feels like the Oscar is Brendan's and while I like him I dont understand why ppl started uwuing and babying him SO much over the past year like he's always been an extraordinary actor done wrong (and yes I'm aware of his Me Too story and I grew up watching the Mummy films and Bedazzled over and over again but the reaction kinda feels so over the top) Edited January 16, 2023 by okgo
LastKiss Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) Michelle needs to win because: 1. She DELIVERED in EEAAO, it was a GREAT performance in an INCREDIBLE movie. 2. She has been overlooked many times and her career is nothing but amazing. 3. She's a WOC in a category that has awarded white women for 93 out of 94 years, it's time for god's sake. Edited January 16, 2023 by LastKiss spelling
EnigmaticAndroid Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 2 hours ago, fridayteenage said: Yeoh's speeches she's been able to make have highlighted how she wants to create opportunities for people like her going forward. That's why that specific narrative matters. It's not just about her. While Cate's thing for her stans is "well she's just better than everyone she has to win 3 times. No, 4 times!!!" Honestly
fridayteenage Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Green said: Or Meryl's narrative of winning a 3rd Oscar after 30 years over Viola's narrative to keep making history for black actresses in lead? well, michelle yeoh isn't supporting in a movie with ok reviews, but ok
Eóghan Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 4 hours ago, zoldyck said: As an Asian, I don't want Yeoh to be rewarded because no Asian actress has won in 95 years or so. I want her to be win, because that performance was amazing. She carried the movie and it obviously connected with million of people. I always feels like argument/narrative like No POC have been awarded in xyz years so they should now, devalue the actual work. considering there's tons of mediocre white women who did the bare minimum and still won their year because competition was the pits, I really don't care. give it to the 1 asian lady, she gave it her maximum, that's all that matters. even if someone was arguably better that year. 44 minutes ago, okgo said: Colin should win both for his role and for the career narrative imo but after last night it rly feels like the Oscar is Brendan's and while I like him I dont understand why ppl started uwuing and babying him SO much over the past year like he's always been an extraordinary actor done wrong (and yes I'm aware of his Me Too story and I grew up watching the Mummy films and Bedazzled over and over again but the reaction kinda feels so over the top) this is why I want Colin to win. but yeah this is the most boring category race this year.
CaptainMusic Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, fridayteenage said: well, michelle yeoh isn't supporting in a movie with ok reviews, but ok Eh Viola isn’t supporting in The Help, she’s borderline but the movie starts and ends with her. She’s co-lead with Emma like Olivia Colman was. Furthermore The Help had much better reviews than The Iron Lady did and made twice as much, Meryl definitely would not have won if they didn’t push the narrative of her being unawarded for 30 years. Viola should’ve won that year though awarding her for playing a maid wouldn’t have been a good look in hindsight And Michelle (and Viola herself) is more highly regarded in 2022 than Viola was in 2011. 3 hours ago, truthteller said: and her work is AMAZING and full of range in a sci-fi comedy which is so hard to pull off. Love Cate in TAR but EEAAO is just THAT film. Ignoring her narrative, this is the main reason I think Michelle should win. Not many actresses on her level could pull off the drama, comedy and action of this role anywhere near as well as she did.
fridayteenage Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) viola herself isn't a fan of the help in hindsight. https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/09/viola-davis-the-help-regret I don't think someone in less than a third of their movie is so much a lead. I don't have any problem with their submitting in lead, but it's difficult to win as a result. Edited January 16, 2023 by fridayteenage
Riot Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 The way both Ke Huy Quan and Brendan Fraser are frontrunners because of their comeback stories, when it's Hollywood itself who shunned them is also a kii
okgo Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 20 minutes ago, Eóghan said: considering there's tons of mediocre white women who did the bare minimum and still won their year because competition was the pits, I really don't care. give it to the 1 asian lady, she gave it her maximum, that's all that matters. even if someone was arguably better that year. this is why I want Colin to win. but yeah this is the most boring category race this year. Colin also did four wildly different films last year (Banshees, Batman, Thirteen Lives and After Yang) and delivered in all of them, I think he's the most deserving even outside the nominated performance alone
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