MALAMENTE Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 MBD acting like he runs the place with that garbage of a song
Eglė Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 Monika Liugend just hit the bottom of the barrel in odds I am DONE
Miracle Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) Is there even a remote chance Ukraine doesn't win? Ukraine winning will only give more arguments for those who think Eurovision is all politics and the song or the performance don't matter. Also the song would have had it hard to quality if it wasn't for the war, as it's just another rap/folklore thing from an Eastern country, so I hope the jury absolutely sabotages Ukraine, cause if clear the are gonna get like 70-80% of the publica vote due to sympathy and not the song. Edited May 9, 2022 by Miracle
Goofy Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 wow I didn't know Lithuania was doing so badly in the odds. I'm pretty sure she'll qualify though
illia Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 Ukraine would easily qualify even without the war it was 5th in the odds when Kalush were officially announced (2 days before the war)
JennyWayne Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, Miracle said: Is there even a remote chance Ukraine doesn't win? Ukraine winning will only give more arguments for those who think Eurovision is all politics and the song or the performance don't matter. Also the song would have had it hard to quality if it wasn't for the war, as it's just another rap/folklore thing from an Eastern country, so I hope the jury absolutely sabotages Ukraine, cause if clear the are gonna get like 70-80% of the publica vote due to sympathy and not the song. All depends on how high or low the juries will rank Ukraine. I'm expecting Ukraine to win the televote in a landslide. Juries are usually less susceptible for external bias, but they might still vote for Ukraine as a middle finger to Russia, especially other countries affected by Russia/close to Ukraine.
Blackthorn Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 Happy ESC week fellow ATRLers! What exactly happens during the jury shows? I'm out of the loop.
JennyWayne Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Blackthorn said: Happy ESC week fellow ATRLers! What exactly happens during the jury shows? I'm out of the loop. Professional juries will vote during the jury show, so 50% of the final score will be decided. Other than that it's practically another dress rehearsal.
Blackthorn Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, JennyWayne said: Professional juries will vote during the jury show, so 50% of the final score will be decided. Other than that it's practically another dress rehearsal. Thanks! I suppose this won't be televised/streamed, right? Do you guys watch live reactions from blogs etc?
nasa Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 44 minutes ago, Miracle said: Also the song would have had it hard to quality if it wasn't for the war, as it's just another rap/folklore thing from an Eastern country, so I hope the jury absolutely sabotages Ukraine this is such BULLSH*T. Ukraine is one of the most stable countries in Eurovision, with a 100% qualification rate. Both Alina and Kalush were top 5 in the odds BEFORE the war has started. Just say you don't want us to win because you feel so scared about those "pity votes" you refer to.
nasa Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, Blackthorn said: Thanks! I suppose this won't be televised/streamed, right? Do you guys watch live reactions from blogs etc? Yes, wiwibloggs will stream it. It's important to watch because if someone f*cks up or there are issues with a performance it would most likely mean juries will bomb the entry. I'm sure someone will share the link here
nasa Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 You just can't ignore the fact Ukraine has one of the best performances/staging this year, and we got the biggest applause (with Greece) after the second rehearsal. Stop saying it's only because of the war because both song and performance are great.
Blackthorn Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, nasa said: Yes, wiwibloggs will stream it. It's important to watch because if someone f*cks up or there are issues with a performance it would most likely mean juries will bomb the entry. I'm sure someone will share the link here Thank you! I definitely learned something new because I thought both televote and jury votes were issued during the Grand Final. *and the semi-finals Edited May 9, 2022 by Blackthorn
Bicassie Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, nasa said: You just can't ignore the fact Ukraine has one of the best performances/staging this year, and we got the biggest applause (with Greece) after the second rehearsal. Stop saying it's only because of the war because both song and performance are great. Don’t act brand new sweetie You can’t deny that they are gonna benefit from a lot of pity votes It IS a problem when pity votes could possibly be the difference between winners and it is NOT FAIR. Edited May 9, 2022 by Bicassie
XoutrageousX Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 They just showed the stage for the first stime on Italian Tv, the sun moves!
Bicassie Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 53 minutes ago, Flomik said: Ukraine would easily qualify even without the war it was 5th in the odds when Kalush were officially announced (2 days before the war) This is true! I lowkey do wanna see the mess if they win EBU is gonna be put in a very weird situation
nasa Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 1 minute ago, BadMonster said: Not this take when Conchita's beard pushed Austria to a win, I- pointless 8 minutes ago, Bicassie said: Don’t act brand new sweetie You can’t deny that they are gonna benefit from a lot of pity votes It IS a problem when pity votes could possibly be the difference between winners and it is NOT FAIR. I never said they were never going to benefit from it i just called out the user who said Ukraine would NQ without the war. Or do you agree with that? I really didn’t want us to win. Like, really. First, because of Alina. Second, because the backlash we’d get and I had enough breakdowns these past three months. But seeing a lot of you fume about this while supporting the absolute blandest trash like Spain or whatever now makes me want us to win so badly. And it WILL happen.
nathanspears Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, XoutrageousX said: They just showed the stage for the first stime on Italian Tv, the sun moves! what_is_the_truth.gif
BOOM! Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 Of course Ukraine would qualify anyway, with or without a war. I think that qualifying was never in question. If they win tho... It's going to be a mess and overshadow pretty much everything else. It will make the point of Eurovision being politically influenced more than ever.
nasa Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 1 minute ago, BadMonster said: Not pointless at all. It's pretty common a Eurovision act benefits from some controversy or another, this time it's Ukraine, and they're getting a lot of sympathy for a good reason. It's not cuz of something 'controversial' as a 'woman with a beard' as Conchita was constantly referred to back then No, I meant it was pointless to prove something to that user. You’re 100% right pls. Eurovision was, is and will stay political
MAKSIM Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, BadMonster said: Not this take when Conchita's beard pushed Austria to a win, I- And other countries would never win or get the same placement if they sent the exact same song and staging as Sweden does If Montenegro sent what Cornelia is doing this year, it’d be lucky to even go top 10.
igninton Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, BadMonster said: Not this take when Conchita's beard pushed Austria to a win, I- It's pretty common a Eurovision act benefits from some controversy or another, this time it's Ukraine, and they're getting a lot of sympathy for a good reason. Are you REALLY comparing a bearded drag queen with the situation in Ukraine and implying they voted for her out of 'sympathy.? I have seen everything, ATRL. Edited May 9, 2022 by igninton
Bicassie Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 1 minute ago, nasa said: pointless I never said they were never going to benefit from it i just called out the user who said Ukraine would NQ without the war. Or do you agree with that? I really didn’t want us to win. Like, really. First, because of Alina. Second, because the backlash we’d get and I had enough breakdowns these past three months. But seeing a lot of you fume about this while supporting the absolute blandest trash like Spain or whatever now makes me want us to win so badly. And it WILL happen. So you agree with me that them winning would be unfair? Also a beard wasn’t as huge of an advantage as what Ukraine is currently receiving imo We should remember that this is a competition and that Ukraine might rob someone else of a more deserved/earned win. Honestly whoever will be 2nd place would’ve been the real winner
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