mathekr Posted October 3 Posted October 3 10 hours ago, SinnerCity said: What a fantastic episode, I love how we're getting their characters' back-story little by little, and that ending, is fantastic, you could see Agatha's pain in her eyes Reveal hidden contents Can we imply that Rio/Death took Nicholas' life? Maybe due to sickness or something, because it seems that it was her job to do so and that broke Agatha's heart, I dont buy that she would trade her son's life to have the Darkhold since she seems clearly heartbroken, although I could be wrong but yeah, this show is fantastic so far. That's my theory too And because she was heartbroken that Rio/Death did that, she resorted to the Darkhold to try to get her son back, just like Wanda. But we'll see 2
Feanor Posted October 3 Posted October 3 This is sooo good, I'm obsessed. It's taking me back to when I used to be all about Wandavision back in 2021. 3
Augmented Posted October 3 Posted October 3 Another enjoyable episode, I think I preferred the coven tension from episode 3 compared to this one but it's nice to see the chemistry and bonding between all the characters develop. Spoiler Part of me is glad the trial didn't take up the whole episode as it made sure the format doesn't become predictable for each episode. At the same time I sort of wish we spent more time in the trial to create more stakes and drama, it just sort of felt like oh they are all gonna get through this one with no issues. I'm guessing Rio is some sort of Ferryman given her mentioning getting her bodies once the rest of the coven died on the road and Agatha's fear that she might take Teen. Marvel/disney being so overtly queer is sort of throwing me for a loop because it's pretty bog standard representation from a modern media sense but at the same time it still feels refreshing given how ambiguous Disney often is with there LGBTQ rep as a whole. Agree with whoever said the fallout of Sharon's death + Rio returning felt a little rushed but it also doesn't feel like these characters would also dwell too much on something like that so Continuing to be impressed by Kathryn's range with Agatha, she's portraying multiple sides to her each episode and it's so fun to watch. 4
Gorjesspazze9 Posted October 4 Posted October 4 (edited) The Head of Marvel Studios Television and Animation reported The Wanda Hive really showing out come on that Finale needs to give us what we all want. Edited October 4 by Gorjesspazze9 7
Mr. Loco Posted October 4 Posted October 4 (edited) This feels like watching a cheap Disney Channel show made for kids where everyone becomes friends just for the sake of it tbh, I don't know if I'm missing something, but I don't get how they all (including teen) get along so well with Agatha, considering she is being always rude, being uninteresed about one of the dying, and obviously plotting against them. I just don't buy it, and Agatha has done nothing yet to become a likeable or even interesting protagonist for me, and I'm actually kinda surprised about entering this thread and everyone calling it the best MCU show since Wandavision (which I loved), at this point I just keep watching in hopes for a Wanda cameo at the season finale or some references to her. For all of you who are loving this show, could you tell me what am I missing? Because I just don't get the hype Edited October 4 by Mr. Loco 1
SinnerCity Posted October 4 Posted October 4 The MCU really should explore magic more regularly, it's got so much potential 4
Souvenir Posted October 4 Posted October 4 i love this series so much! Patti LuPone and Kathryn Hahn are carrying this. I enjoy their performances. 2
Gorjesspazze9 Posted October 4 Posted October 4 5 hours ago, Mr. Loco said: This feels like watching a cheap Disney Channel show made for kids where everyone becomes friends just for the sake of it tbh, I don't know if I'm missing something, but I don't get how they all (including teen) get along so well with Agatha, considering she is being always rude, being uninteresed about one of the dying, and obviously plotting against them. I just don't buy it, and Agatha has done nothing yet to become a likeable or even interesting protagonist for me, and I'm actually kinda surprised about entering this thread and everyone calling it the best MCU show since Wandavision (which I loved), at this point I just keep watching in hopes for a Wanda cameo at the season finale or some references to her. For all of you who are loving this show, could you tell me what am I missing? Because I just don't get the hype Huh? They all hate Agatha. Except teen. They are going along the road for thier own personal benefit; get out of debt, Generational Truama, and Power. That was established in episode 2 10
Baby Dancer Posted October 4 Posted October 4 This is gonna be negative but, like, this witches road thing is a little boring. It's still in the MCU, I want an early season fight like Hulk vs She-Hulk. Where's the damn magic?
KFC Posted October 4 Posted October 4 4 hours ago, Baby Dancer said: This is gonna be negative but, like, this witches road thing is a little boring. It's still in the MCU, I want an early season fight like Hulk vs She-Hulk. Where's the damn magic? The budget for this series is non-existent I'm sure we'll get some magic in the climax of the finale episode
Pink Ranger Posted October 4 Posted October 4 (edited) I've got my own theory if yall wanna see my thoughts, I've been watching NewRockstars breakdowns and it's pretty wild but my Wanda vision theories were as mad Spoiler I believe 100% that Joe's character Teen is Agatha's son, however, what I think happened is in Eastview him and his boyfriend who called him in the car in episode 2 were in a car accident, while in a coma or dead the spirit of Billy Maximoff went inside him after the events of Wandavision so therefore it's technically Nicolas Scratch in physical form, mentally all his memories are of Wanda and his life as her son therefore becoming Wiccan I also think when Agatha gave up Nicholas for the Darkhold there was some fine print where he would be safe as long as she had the darkhold, if she were to ever lose its magic then he would be killed, that's where I think Rio comes into it and if you know the spoilers that she indeed is playing "DEATH" then she was the one to do it by let's say causing this car crash that killed him, but she didn't expect Billy's spirit to go inside him thus making her now more intrigued to follow Teen himself. . I think Rio/Death is after the darkhold magic and believes that Teen's goal is to finish the witches road to get Wanda back so then in a future film Rio/Death is the villain trying to get Wanda to bring back the darkhold or something along those lines Edited October 4 by Pink Ranger 2
Gorjesspazze9 Posted October 5 Posted October 5 Episode 1 has the clues to Wanda All along. At least in my theory Spoiler The Body of the Jane Doe remains is the key and biggest clue to what marvel is about to do to bring Wanda back. This isn't a spoiler, just my theory as a fan of the comics. they specifically said that she had Eastern European soil following the car crash in the forest. Now we know that was part of the illusion spell Agatha was on, but Agatha & Teen are able to interact with her while she was under that spell. Wanda is also, leading clues that where Wanda is, like in the Comic where she was following the events of House of M. Latveria! Or the MCU location that is Sokovia. The setting of Avengers Age of Ultron, her introduction film into the MCU. Her entire show is about finding family, but even more so is Home. As she was missing home as a kid, and that's why she watches sitcoms cuz no other media makes you feel more at Home she isn't actually dead. But masking her presence, at the end of Multiverse of madness we see her teleport as the mountain collapses. Follow the witches road, leads them home; what they all truly want. Like the wizard of OZ, Dorthy just wants to go back home. Plus the Latveria reveal would tie into Doomsday pretty nicely since that's the kingdom of Doom. We all think the road is gonna lead them to some ancient book or spell, but what if it's just Mephisto that makes them have to sign a contract/deal with the devil; to find thier state of home/Family?! Also Lila is clearly a medieval witch, once again pointing to the European setting.
SoSickOfThatSOL Posted October 5 Posted October 5 Even though is my second least favorite episode after number 1. It was damn amazing Spoiler I have a theory, if all the leaks about Rio being death and Teen being Wiccan (please don't spoil it for me if you already have any confirmation, even on spoiler tags). Perhaps Agatha actually was power hungry and wanted the Darkhold, Mephisto offered it in exchange for his most precious thing: his son soul. Since she was having an affair and truce with death, she thought her son would be ok. However, Rio couldn't not take her son's soul, and that was what broke her heart. The nightmare of her during the first trial really implies that her son and the darkhold do have an interconnected history.
Souvenir Posted October 5 Posted October 5 Spoiler I don't think Wanda is in the show but she might appear in the end credits. I believe Teen is Agatha and Wanda's child. I think Nicolas died in a car accident, and Billy's soul entered Nicolas' body somehow.
shark_heather Posted October 5 Posted October 5 On 10/4/2024 at 7:42 AM, Mr. Loco said: This feels like watching a cheap Disney Channel show made for kids where everyone becomes friends just for the sake of it tbh, I don't know if I'm missing something, but I don't get how they all (including teen) get along so well with Agatha, considering she is being always rude, being uninteresed about one of the dying, and obviously plotting against them. I just don't buy it, and Agatha has done nothing yet to become a likeable or even interesting protagonist for me, and I'm actually kinda surprised about entering this thread and everyone calling it the best MCU show since Wandavision (which I loved), at this point I just keep watching in hopes for a Wanda cameo at the season finale or some references to her. For all of you who are loving this show, could you tell me what am I missing? Because I just don't get the hype I could barely finish episode 1 Idk if it gets better later 1
KFC Posted October 6 Posted October 6 Omg can y'all let the thought of Wanda GO for two seconds please just enjoy the Agatha show for what it is
KFC Posted October 6 Posted October 6 "Teen is Billy Maximoff" "The coven will resurrect Wanda at the end of the Witches Road" "Wanda was the body in Episode 1" 8
Daddy Posted October 6 Posted October 6 It's ok so far but why is there no budget? The witches road looks like PS1 Tomb Raider level 1 11
Gorjesspazze9 Posted October 6 Posted October 6 The scarlet witch update user got to see Episode 5 and said "Bring your Tissues" expect an Emotional episode. 1
Gorjesspazze9 Posted October 6 Posted October 6 3 hours ago, KFC said: Omg can y'all let the thought of Wanda GO for two seconds please just enjoy the Agatha show for what it is I'm enjoying it. But Wanda is the most popular MCU character in recent years, most people I know offline are watching it just cuz of wandavision
Hephaestus Posted October 6 Posted October 6 1 hour ago, Gorjesspazze9 said: I'm enjoying it. But Wanda is the most popular MCU character in recent years, most people I know offline are watching it just cuz of wandavision Same, I'm gagged by how many friends and acquaintances that are not into the MCU at all are watching this just because it's directly related to WandaVision. That's the power of good storytelling and characterization for you @Kevin Feige 7
Gorjesspazze9 Posted October 6 Posted October 6 2 hours ago, Hephaestus said: Same, I'm gagged by how many friends and acquaintances that are not into the MCU at all are watching this just because it's directly related to WandaVision. That's the power of good storytelling and characterization for you @Kevin Feige True, I've also seen Wanda Hive come back to life thanks to this show! Reaction channels are back to covering Marvel again. Doing Numbers
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