pride4jc1222 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 17 hours ago, Sensation said: Venus was awarded a WC for the AO The wild card should have been awarded to a younger player. Venus has no business being out there anymore and I think she's hurting her legacy with each first round loss. About half of her career now is in irrelevance. Kimiko Date Krumm was more competitive at the end of her career than Venus is right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marla Singer Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Legend V The greatest and most accomplished active player should always get a WC for any event they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen99 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 she's not even top 1 000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharapov Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Marla Singer said: Legend V The greatest and most accomplished active player should always get a WC for any event they want. Uh no?? what is this? she's wasting a WC for a player that'd need it much more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geddymonster Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 On 12/22/2022 at 9:36 AM, pride4jc1222 said: The wild card should have been awarded to a younger player. Venus has no business being out there anymore and I think she's hurting her legacy with each first round loss. About half of her career now is in irrelevance. Kimiko Date Krumm was more competitive at the end of her career than Venus is right now. She’s more than earned the right to a wildcard. No one complains about Andy Murray taking wildcard after wildcard even though he’s been flopping since his comeback and has had a fraction of Venus’s success overall. Maria Sharapova got wildcard after wildcard after coming back from suspension for doping. Kim Clijsters got wildcards for her half-baked comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marla Singer Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sharapov said: Uh no?? what is this? she's wasting a WC for a player that'd need it much more It's not a charity. The other girls can still qualify or receive one of the other WCs if they're good enough. It's a no-brainer for any tournament organiser to grant a WC to the active player with the most Grand Slam titles, and more GS titles than the top 15 combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridayteenage Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 i mean, people will show up to see venus, not whatever nobody she booted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensation Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 Venus also has a WC for Auckland next week Players are starting to arrive in Australia as United Cup begins in 3 days. 12.29 opening matches include Tsitsipas v Dimitrov with Nadal, Fritz, Kyrgios, Coric, Norrie, Tiafoe, Musetti, Berrettini, Zverev, Swiatek, Garcia, Keys, Pegula, Kvitova, Bencic in action this weekend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensation Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 December 29 schedule Sydney Fritz v Lehecka Keys v Bouzkova Kyrgios v Norrie Hives v Swan Perth Papamichail v Shinikova Tsitsipas v Dimitrov Cornet v Carle Rinderknech v Cerundolo Brisbane Trevisan v Haddad Maia Musetti v Rodrigues Alves Bencic v Putintseva Huesler v Skatov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensation Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Dominic Thiem has received a wildcard for the AO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geddymonster Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 27 minutes ago, Sensation said: Dominic Thiem has received a wildcard for the AO Where are all the people complaining that he stole a wildcard from a player that really needs it?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen99 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 7 hours ago, geddymonster said: Where are all the people complaining that he stole a wildcard from a player that really needs it?! he's inside top 1000 unlike the other one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharapov Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, geddymonster said: Where are all the people complaining that he stole a wildcard from a player that really needs it?! he came back from an injury last year and has been improving more and more against venus who is just 100% useless. he's ranked #102, venus aint even top 1000 are you trolling or know nothing about tennis? Edited December 30, 2022 by Sharapov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marla Singer Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Frozen99 said: he's inside top 1000 unlike the other one 1 hour ago, Sharapov said: he came back from an injury last year and has been improving more and more against venus who is just 100% useless. he's ranked #102, venus aint even top 1000 are you trolling or know nothing about tennis? Well I would hope he's ranked higher, since he has played 19 tournaments since March, as opposed to Venus who has only played 4 tournaments in the past year. She was out of the tour for an entire year so completely lost her ranking, while Thiem was away for less than a year and was already ranked quite high when he returned. So the snarky top 1000 comments don't really work here (plus there's the fact that Venus actually is in the top 1000 currently, so you're both incorrect ). Thiem has also taken many Wild Cards, and is still taking them now. It took 8 tournaments for him to register his first win, which would never have happened if all tournament organisers denied him a Wild Card for the same reasons that you both think Venus should be denied one. It's valid for someone to ask why neither of you complained about Thiem's Wild Cards, given all these facts. Are you trolling or know nothing about tennis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen99 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 neither of them should've gotten a WC, dominic had enough time to gather ranking pts and venus is barely staying in top 1000 (that's on her how many tourneys she's playing) 2 hours ago, Marla Singer said: Are you trolling or know nothing about tennis? gather us i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharapov Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Venus has won 1 match out of the last 11 the comparisons to thiem who came back from a hard injury are STUPID. enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geddymonster Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 5 hours ago, Frozen99 said: he's inside top 1000 unlike the other one 4 hours ago, Sharapov said: he came back from an injury last year and has been improving more and more against venus who is just 100% useless. he's ranked #102, venus aint even top 1000 are you trolling or know nothing about tennis? Venus’s current ranking doesn’t change the fact that she is currently the most successful player on tour with the most Grand Slams, Olympic Medals, overall titles, and has actually been ranked #1. Not to mention that Venus is a household name that will draw attendance to the tournament and bring attention to tennis in general, which is something the sport sorely needs after losing two of its biggest names last year. Also, Venus was out most of last year because of an injury, just like Thiem. Obviously you know nothing about tennis if you don’t understand why a legend of the sport would be given a wildcard over a “deserving” player ranked outside the top 100 that 99% of people have probably never heard of. Where was this energy for “deserving” players getting wildcards when Maria Sharapova got wildcards galore after coming back from cheating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okgo Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, geddymonster said: Where was this energy for “deserving” players getting wildcards when Maria Sharapova got wildcards galore after coming back from cheating? I don't care that Venus is getting wc's (as she should), but is this a joke? Maria got way more backlash than Venus, even from players (and tournies, remember the French Open mess? where she was literally a former 2x champ) Maria was also like a decade younger than Venus, there was still more interest (or curiosity)/"butts in seats" for her (even if let's not pretend like any of these girls were/are able to pack any venue internationally) and she did manage to climb the rankings/win more matches than Venus currently for argument's sake Edited December 30, 2022 by okgo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geddymonster Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 27 minutes ago, okgo said: I don't care that Venus is getting wc's (as she should), but is this a joke? Maria got way more backlash than Venus, even from players (and tournies, remember the French Open mess? where she was literally a former 2x champ) Maria was also like a decade younger than Venus, there was still more interest (or curiosity)/"butts in seats" for her (even if let's not pretend like any of these girls were/are able to pack any venue internationally) and she did manage to climb the rankings/win more matches than Venus currently for argument's sake I was talking about on here where most people had no qualms with her getting wildcards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen99 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 2 hours ago, geddymonster said: she is currently the most successful player on tour with the most Grand Slams, Olympic Medals, overall titles, and has actually been ranked #1. serena hasn't retired yet. 2 hours ago, geddymonster said: Not to mention that Venus is a household name that will draw attendance to the tournament and bring attention to tennis in general, which is something the sport sorely needs after losing two of its biggest names last year. Also, Venus was out most of last year because of an injury, just like Thiem. Obviously you know nothing about tennis if you don’t understand why a legend of the sport would be given a wildcard over a “deserving” player ranked outside the top 100 that 99% of people have probably never heard of. yes "obviously" we know nothing about tennis it's common sense she'd get in more people than a aussie teenager, the point is, she's barely hanging in top 1000, won 1 out of her last 11 matches and since 2018, she's gone through the 2nd round on a GS twice... full disclosure, i don't think dominic should get one either, he's been back for a while now but oh well 1 hour ago, geddymonster said: I was talking about on here where most people had no qualms with her getting wildcards. then you obviously weren't here bc she was dragged to the pits of hell and back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gui Blackout Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) Obviously Venus should get a WC, so does Thiem, so did Sharapova. Young players have their whole careers ahead of them to get WCs or get in the draw on their own. WCs are not really a meritocracy, that's what qualifying are for. Pointless discussion. Edited December 30, 2022 by Gui Blackout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen99 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Gui Blackout said: Pointless discussion. Quote Australian Open 2021 Errani S. - Williams V. 2K 6-1, 6-0 getting bageled by errani ... in 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geddymonster Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Frozen99 said: serena hasn't retired yet. yes "obviously" we know nothing about tennis it's common sense she'd get in more people than a aussie teenager, the point is, she's barely hanging in top 1000, won 1 out of her last 11 matches and since 2018, she's gone through the 2nd round on a GS twice... full disclosure, i don't think dominic should get one either, he's been back for a while now but oh well then you obviously weren't here bc she was dragged to the pits of hell and back. So what? A bad year or two invalidates 3 decades of world class tennis? You’re talking about the lowest ranked woman to ever win Wimbledon; ranking isn’t everything. Why is someone who has yet to prove themselves more entitled to a free pass than someone who has proved themselves multiple times over? People are so quick to shove older players out the door and then cry when they actually retire. There were definitely more people on here cheering for Sharapova’s return than there were decrying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geddymonster Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Frozen99 said: getting bageled by errani ... in 2021 She injured herself badly in that match and still finished, unlike these young players that you are advocating for who retire if they have a hangnail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharapov Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 38 minutes ago, Frozen99 said: getting bageled by errani ... in 2021 It's just sad how she keeps tarnishing her legacy. Watch her lose 6-0 6-2 against some mug like Trevisan now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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