northwest Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 I started the first 2 episodes of The Warp Effect, they were so good My first GMMTV since Not Me, I think
DanyelP23 Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Genius1111 said: A progressive show! Hide contents Having said that, sometimes I feel that the show may seem a little too preachy. Some Redditors have also mentioned that it's basically performative progressiveness. I don't disagree with that sentiment actually. Still, such conversations are important and the public in Thailand and around the world need to hear all these messages. Redditors are sometimes the stupidest BL stans out there... It might feel performatively progressive because they themselves may be performatively progressive I'd call it performative if they would have payed lip service to progressive topics for 1 or 2 scenes or one episode at most, not when the whole show is dedicated to progressive topics. Maybe some things are said out loud when they should be implied, but audiences these days are quite stupid and this show is a comedy, not a highbrow drama - having things spelled out for the audience doesn't really detract from the show being funny, the characters being endearing. Considering how many 'sensitive' topics it handles: ** SPOILERS for the show bellow so don't read if you have not watched it ** Shame regarding expression of sexuality: Alex, Kat Misogyny: Alex vs Jean treatment by the school regarding the same topic Being closeted and somewhat privileged: Army Being closeted and not as privileged: Joe Not fitting into a defined category: Mollie (nonbinary), Joe (being a side, being gay into a traditionally str8, masculine field of work) 'Unconventional' (open) hetero relationship: Jedi & Rose Kinks: See-ew Domestic violence: Kat This is just a supposition, but possible abuse of power/ SA in the workplace: Liu and her older boss Unplanned pregnancy/abortion: Ice/Kim Sexual trauma: Jean & Alex situation etc. I just feel like calling it performative is unfounded, unless the definition of performative means talking about such topics. Especially by reddit users that gag at the most shyte basic 'problematic' BLs. Maybe some plots are shoehorned in, sure, but I don't think a show like this has been done before in Thailand or SEA/EA media (please correct me if I'm wrong). The WAP effect is def. not a show for those girlies that complain when gay issues are highlighted in regular BLs. I feel like some fans might be pressed that a show can do all this while also serving great acting and AMAZING CHEMISTRY for the gay male couple of the show Edited February 4, 2023 by DanyelP23
Genius1111 Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) Going back to My Dek Inter President, I am going post a few negative comments here. I didn't particularly like Episode 9 and some member on MDL have also voiced their concerns as well. 1. It's quite strange that the principal is not really aware of what the Student Council is planning (the beach trip). Even if her son's not in the council, it is probably the council that she works the most closely with, so she should have some idea of what's going on. 2. Yak's presence in this episode killed the mood for everything in this episode. We have already seen this in Still 2Bros with Dim enforcing the dumb "lockdown" on Sarawat and his band. Still 2Bros would have been awesome if not for that aspect, and it's happening once again in MSP. 3. The dance was very cringe for this episode. 4. Tiwson and his duck float was cute for the first few minutes, but the gag became cringe the 3rd time it was shown. 5. Pat (played by Prom) still has no significant arc for himself. Which sucks, because as an actor, Prom has to practise and rehearse all the singing and dancing as much as the other actors, and still got less screen time. 6. I'm slightly disappointed that Win said that Sound did not make his heart go racing, but it's understandable because he may still be processing his feelings. (Despite professing to be popular on dating apps like Tinder, he probably never experience real love.) I wish SoundWin could have kissed at that stage. 7. Too many almost-kisses for this episode. And the plot is kinda dragging. I found this comment on MDL and I sort of relate to it. Quote This has been my favorite series airing, but after that episode I'm not sure I'll even bother to finish it. What is this kissing thing? Are you serious with this? What are teenage boys famous for? Oh, yeah, it's their extreme reluctance to engage in physical intimacy. Yeah, that's right. If you want to wait, fine, but all these false-start kisses are just stupid and cringey, and it's getting to the point of homophobia. Their relationship is going nowhere - backwards even. After that absolutely enchanting dance scene in half the series ago, they needed to move forward, but they haven't, and the energy is gone. TBH, I've lost interest. And how many 40-year old parents can be fatally ill? The death rate for young parents in BL is nearly 90%. This story is unorginal enough - do we need another tired cliche? And Sound & Win - WTF? "I don't feel anything, but I'm willing to try" - who writes this garbage? You feel something or you don't. That's not romantic, it's idiotic. "I don't have any feelings for you, but sure, I'll try gay, why not? I had strawberry ice cream yesterday and I usually have chocolate - is this any different?" A little humor is OK, but Yak hijacked this entire episode and it got tiresome. I'm profoundly disappointed. This series has gone off the rails and it was something really special. This has declined for me from a 9.5 to a 7 at best for this episode. I hope it climbs back up. So Gemini can sing. Switching smoothly in and out of falsetto is not easy - it takes skill and practice. Overall, it seems like the show peaked at Episode 6. PS: Tao Sarocha (who plays the principal / Tinn's mum) is one pretty mama. She also played the mums of Shin (in 3 Will Be Free) and Tharn (in the TharnType universe). Hopefully her character won't be homophobic here. Edited February 4, 2023 by Genius1111
DanyelP23 Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 Just finished My School President ep3. Yes this show is not "exciting", as in having a lot of plot going on, but it's perfect as a romance with comedic elements. Frontrunner for SOTY me thinks. Also I don't check for GeminiFourth outside of the show, but Gemini as Tin serves perfect phag excellence. A Best Actor nom is in store for him, I fear! Mark Pakin should also get the crown for BL King this year, if only for the fact that his character references his real self in the show
Katamari Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Genius1111 said: Going back to My Dek Inter President, I am going post a few negative comments here. I didn't particularly like Episode 9 and some member on MDL have also voiced their concerns as well. 1. It's quite strange that the principal is not really aware of what the Student Council is planning (the beach trip). Even if her son's not in the council, it is probably the council that she works the most closely with, so she should have some idea of what's going on. 2. Yak's presence in this episode killed the mood for everything in this episode. We have already seen this in Still 2Bros with Dim enforcing the dumb "lockdown" on Sarawat and his band. Still 2Bros would have been awesome if not for that aspect, and it's happening once again in MSP. 3. The dance was very cringe for this episode. 4. Tiwson and his duck float was cute for the first few minutes, but the gag became cringe the 3rd time it was shown. 5. Pat (played by Prom) still has no significant arc for himself. Which sucks, because as an actor, Prom has to practise and rehearse all the singing and dancing as much as the other actors, and still got less screen time. 6. I'm slightly disappointed that Win said that Sound did not make his heart go racing, but it's understandable because he may still be processing his feelings. (Despite professing to be popular on dating apps like Tinder, he probably never experience real love.) I wish SoundWin could have kissed at that stage. 7. Too many almost-kisses for this episode. And the plot is kinda dragging. I found this comment on MDL and I sort of relate to it. Overall, it seems like the show peaked at Episode 6. PS: Tao Sarocha (who plays the principal / Tinn's mum) is one pretty mama. She also played the mums of Shin (in 3 Will Be Free) and Tharn (in the TharnType universe). Hopefully her character won't be homophobic here. Kind of agree about soundwin they are my main ship but wtf at wins response I don’t believe he feels nothing for sound
Nebur Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Genius1111 said: 2. Yak's presence in this episode killed the mood for everything in this episode. We have already seen this in Still 2Bros with Dim enforcing the dumb "lockdown" on Sarawat and his band. Still 2Bros would have been awesome if not for that aspect, and it's happening once again in MSP. 3. The dance was very cringe for this episode. 4. Tiwson and his duck float was cute for the first few minutes, but the gag became cringe the 3rd time it was shown. 7. Too many almost-kisses for this episode. And the plot is kinda dragging. This especially it was already so desperate and it reminded me enough of still 2gether that part was horrible in both As for the kisses, I do get a little desperate, although I don't think it's homophobia, I think they want to save the kiss for last when they're formally engaged I hope so because I'm not here for another cherryphobic
Genius1111 Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, Katamari said: Kind of agree about soundwin they are my main ship but wtf at wins response I don’t believe he feels nothing for sound He definitely feels something but he is probably unsure at this stage whether it is classified as romance. He also probably thought of himself as straight until recently and is still processing something. But yes, SoundWin >>>> the other payola couple. I need to promote SatangWinny so that they can debut in the top 40 in BL King this year.
Genius1111 Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nebur said: This especially it was already so desperate and it reminded me enough of still 2gether that part was horrible in both As for the kisses, I do get a little desperate, although I don't think it's homophobia, I think they want to save the kiss for last when they're formally engaged I hope so because I'm not here for another cherryphobic Actually Tinn kissed Gun on the forehead. And they already had an underwater kiss in the previous episode that was mentioned, but not filmed iirc. At least in Still 2gether, the stupid lockdown got us the lovely Tine crying scene (which deserves an award) and that cute plot twist where Sarawat was actually there to witness it. In MSP, all we got was 4 boys doing a cringe dance.
Genius1111 Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 2 hours ago, DanyelP23 said: Redditors are sometimes the stupidest BL stans out there... It might feel performatively progressive because they themselves may be performatively progressive I'd call it performative if they would have payed lip service to progressive topics for 1 or 2 scenes or one episode at most, not when the whole show is dedicated to progressive topics. Maybe some things are said out loud when they should be implied, but audiences these days are quite stupid and this show is a comedy, not a highbrow drama - having things spelled out for the audience doesn't really detract from the show being funny, the characters being endearing. Considering how many 'sensitive' topics it handles: ** SPOILERS for the show bellow so don't read if you have not watched it ** Shame regarding expression of sexuality: Alex, Kat Misogyny: Alex vs Jean treatment by the school regarding the same topic Being closeted and somewhat privileged: Army Being closeted and not as privileged: Joe Not fitting into a defined category: Mollie (nonbinary), Joe (being a side, being gay into a traditionally str8, masculine field of work) 'Unconventional' (open) hetero relationship: Jedi & Rose Kinks: See-ew Domestic violence: Kat Reveal hidden contents This is just a supposition, but possible abuse of power/ SA in the workplace: Liu and her older boss Unplanned pregnancy/abortion: Ice/Kim Sexual trauma: Jean & Alex situation etc. I just feel like calling it performative is unfounded, unless the definition of performative means talking about such topics. Especially by reddit users that gag at the most shyte basic 'problematic' BLs. Maybe some plots are shoehorned in, sure, but I don't think a show like this has been done before in Thailand or SEA/EA media (please correct me if I'm wrong). The WAP effect is def. not a show for those girlies that complain when gay issues are highlighted in regular BLs. I feel like some fans might be pressed that a show can do all this while also serving great acting and AMAZING CHEMISTRY for the gay male couple of the show You freaking spilled facts in this post. THAT was a passionate response! Yes, this is Asia, so don't expect anything progressive and educational to get mentioned. I live like 800km south of the Thai border and we only have 1 web BL drama so far (which I have not finished watching, woops) and sex between men was just decriminalized last year. I also forgot about the part with Liu and her creepy boss. Maybe it will get mentioned again. 51 minutes ago, DanyelP23 said: Just finished My School President ep3. Yes this show is not "exciting", as in having a lot of plot going on, but it's perfect as a romance with comedic elements. Frontrunner for SOTY me thinks. Also I don't check for GeminiFourth outside of the show, but Gemini as Tin serves perfect phag excellence. A Best Actor nom is in store for him, I fear! Mark Pakin should also get the crown for BL King this year, if only for the fact that his character references his real self in the show Fourth should be able to BL King, unless Mix manages a more stellar performance with Moonlight C0ck.
DanyelP23 Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Genius1111 said: You freaking spilled facts in this post. THAT was a passionate response! Yes, this is Asia, so don't expect anything progressive and educational to get mentioned. I live like 800km south of the Thai border and we only have 1 web BL drama so far (which I have not finished watching, woops) and sex between men was just decriminalized last year. I also forgot about the part with Liu and her creepy boss. Maybe it will get mentioned again. Fourth should be able to BL King, unless Mix manages a more stellar performance with Moonlight C0ck. We need OnlyFans to ship sooner than expected and for JonginBey edit: I mean@touya kinomototo delay the BL King rate a bit, so that Mark gets a boost from the show (if it doesn't flop) --- Also, am I the only one that sees a slight resemblance between Mark Pakin and Pond Ponlawit? Idk how to explain but they have a similar vibe to me Edited February 4, 2023 by DanyelP23
Genius1111 Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 Gap The Series Ep 11 Part 1 Lady Sam's grandma is literally the trashiest behaving woman in a Thai LGBT show that I have watched. She drove out her 2nd granddaughter, Song. Song died in a car accident and yet she blamed Song's girlfriend, Ice, for being the cause of Song's death. Dafug! The grandma needs to win Best Villain award. That character is the most disgusting and homophobic character since Sib (Nut's army dad) from TMOTB. Sib should have won best villain last year, and not Vegas, since his character has virtually no redeeming qualities.
dabunique Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 Multi fandoms r losing it cuz all I see is FirstMix lol
dabunique Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 Talking about MSP when will they phuckin kiss. I’m sorry this is dragging too much especially since all of us horknee gays would’ve already had a kiss in real life Tiwson and Por is so non existent and it sucks for da Mark fans like me and I’m also loving Ford now they deserve more da mom not cracking down on Tinn after he dipped is not realistic. Especially since she hates da music club so much I actually liked dat Win was like u don’t make my heartbeat fast but dat doesn’t mean it won’t in da future. ( @Genius1111 reminds me of Tarn in MOTB tellin da same thing to Nut ) Gun’s mom jus spillin all da tea. Gurl can’t u pick up da signs to shut da phuck up Yak’s character is so unnecessary, sir u graduated already move da phuck on
DanyelP23 Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, dabunique said: Talking about MSP when will they phuckin kiss. I’m sorry this is dragging too much especially since all of us horknee gays would’ve already had a kiss in real life gurl... So I'm about to start ep4 and y'all are saying it's ep9 and they still haven't kissed
Genius1111 Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 Another plot hole from last week's episode of MSP TinnGun returned to the band and the principal soaking wet. They came up with a lame excuse that it was raining while they were buying snacks and amazingly, no one called out their BS. (This happened in spite of the fact that the boys did notice SoundWin coming back together and Win was holding Sound's bag.)
Genius1111 Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, dabunique said: Talking about MSP when will they phuckin kiss. I’m sorry this is dragging too much especially since all of us horknee gays would’ve already had a kiss in real life Tiwson and Por is so non existent and it sucks for da Mark fans like me and I’m also loving Ford now they deserve more da mom not cracking down on Tinn after he dipped is not realistic. Especially since she hates da music club so much I actually liked dat Win was like u don’t make my heartbeat fast but dat doesn’t mean it won’t in da future. ( @Genius1111 reminds me of Tarn in MOTB tellin da same thing to Nut ) Gun’s mom jus spillin all da tea. Gurl can’t u pick up da signs to shut da phuck up Yak’s character is so unnecessary, sir u graduated already move da phuck on I really forgot about Tarn saying that in TMOTB. (It is almost as though I don't want to acknowledge Judo's character over there ahahaha) I also want to say that Nut (Job) did a good job portraying himself as a bottom and a top. Perhaps he should have won Best Actor. --- Did you watch Still 2gether? It also has a similar plot point with Guy Sivakorn's Dim. However, because of Dim, it resulted in a very tender and emotional scene involving Tine, which is honestly deserving of an award.
Genius1111 Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) Next week (and the 2 weeks after that) will be quite monumental for GMMTV because every ongoing/new primetime drama over the weekdays will feature at least 1 gay couple and 4 LGBTQIA characters. FourthGemini will appear thrice a week and Mark Pakin may appear up to 4 times in a single week. Edited February 4, 2023 by Genius1111
DanyelP23 Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 OMG... they sold me completely on the show with this scene
Da Vinci Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 Fell down the rabbit hole of random YouTube/TikTok/Douyin clips of irl gay Asian couples doing random cute things and not them literally having "fandoms" and compilation videos with thousands of views and comments "What are their names? I'm new to the fandom" Girl what do they even do? Gen Z gays have it so easy omg (well I guess pretty privilege has existed since forever)
DanyelP23 Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, Da Vinci said: Fell down the rabbit hole of random YouTube/TikTok/Douyin clips of irl gay Asian couples doing random cute things and not them literally having "fandoms" and compilation videos with thousands of views and comments "What are their names? I'm new to the fandom" Girl what do they even do? Gen Z gays have it so easy omg (well I guess pretty privilege has existed since forever) Gurl there are literally japanese gay PORN actors that hold FAN meetings I think a couple from season 2 of the korean dating reality show Single's Inferno also held a fan meeting. Literally anyone with a bit of fame seems to be doing it
Katamari Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 17 minutes ago, Da Vinci said: Fell down the rabbit hole of random YouTube/TikTok/Douyin clips of irl gay Asian couples doing random cute things and not them literally having "fandoms" and compilation videos with thousands of views and comments "What are their names? I'm new to the fandom" Girl what do they even do? Gen Z gays have it so easy omg (well I guess pretty privilege has existed since forever) lmao there is room for everyone i guess
Katamari Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, DanyelP23 said: Gurl there are literally japanese gay PORN actors that hold FAN meetings I think a couple from season 2 of the korean dating reality show Single's Inferno also held a fan meeting. Literally anyone with a bit of fame seems to be doing it no way i dont believe you like who show your work NOW
DanyelP23 Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, Katamari said: no way i dont believe you like who show your work NOW https://twitter.com/smallplumAV/ I think if you scroll through the profile of this actor, you can see him planning a fan meeting/event. He (Koume) also has a photobook released with another male porn actor. (scroll through his page) I've also def. seen others promote them on twt but I don't follow them on my main account (just lurk) and am lazy to make a secondary account just for porn. Also, another actor, I found a tweet directly in english Thai BL actors work hard, but japanese gay4pay pornstars work harder I'm afraid.
JonginBey Posted February 4, 2023 Author Posted February 4, 2023 3 hours ago, DanyelP23 said: We need OnlyFans to ship sooner than expected and for JonginBey edit: I mean@touya kinomototo delay the BL King rate a bit, so that Mark gets a boost from the show (if it doesn't flop) --- Also, am I the only one that sees a slight resemblance between Mark Pakin and Pond Ponlawit? Idk how to explain but they have a similar vibe to me They could be twins if Mark had longer hair.
Katamari Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 57 minutes ago, DanyelP23 said: https://twitter.com/smallplumAV/ I think if you scroll through the profile of this actor, you can see him planning a fan meeting/event. He (Koume) also has a photobook released with another male porn actor. (scroll through his page) I've also def. seen others promote them on twt but I don't follow them on my main account (just lurk) and am lazy to make a secondary account just for porn. Also, another actor, I found a tweet directly in english Thai BL actors work hard, but japanese gay4pay pornstars work harder I'm afraid. Lmao I guess if ppl are willing to pay imagine the handshake booth
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