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The way people moved on from Willow but people are still fuming about it an entire day later. :skull: 

 

I’m surprised we aren’t being lectured about Raja and Watch Mojo or told we’re all garbage people because someone likes white, BFA Marcia. A nice change of pace I suppose. 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Relampago. said:

The way people moved on from Willow but people are still fuming about it an entire day later. :skull: 

 

I’m surprised we aren’t being lectured about Raja and Watch Mojo or told we’re all garbage people because someone likes white, BFA Marcia. A nice change of pace I suppose. 

Yeah cause people who like white twinks are so ridiculed in this thread 

 

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Posted
23 minutes ago, TheOnlyOne said:

THAT part

 

No one even hates Willow though. I certainly don't. You just have people on here virtue signaling and caping for their white fave to defend Willow being called a flop winner...which she factually is. The gag is she's got less than a quarter of the heat during her reign than Symone did during hers, despite Symone literally accomplishing 10x more and yet the same old typical white saviors are in here defending Willow's floppage and throwing out ableism accusations left and right. Twice as hard for half as much doesn't even cover it cause even when Symone was trailblazing with celebrities, at industry events, and on magazine covers, this thread downplayed it entirely and still called her a flop with NO backlash yet less than a year later Willow turns out to be 10x less accomplished and suddenly you have people defending that. This thread and fandom will always go to bat for a white queen and minimize a black one at every opportunity. 

 

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A reminder of what a real and talented non-flop winner's reign looks like for those who forgot:

 

 

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In just 3 days, the Most Successful Reign of All Time will come to an end and a newer, lesser queen will face the impossible task of trying to live up to the legacy of THEE Symone

 

Let us take a look back at all RuPaul's successor and the true heir to the Drag Race throne has accomplished in just a year's time:

 

4 Challenge wins, tying a record for US Drag Race

 

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Unprecedented 7/7 lipsync wins, the highest in franchise history

 

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First and only drag queen other than RuPaul to guest on Late Night Primetime

 

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Featured in VOGUE

 

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Attended the MET Gala

 

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OUT Magazine Cover

 

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Interview Magazine Cover

 

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Paper Magazine Cover

 

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Plastik Magazine Cover

 

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SOLO International Tour

 

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Judd Apatow Movie Star

 

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Moschino Ad Campaign

 

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Maybelline Campaign

 

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LADYGUNN Editorial Spread

 

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Featured in New York Times

 

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Sat Front Row at New York, Milan, AND Paris Fashion Week

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Fashion Muse, dressed by Gaultier, Mugler, Carolina Herrera, Balenciaga, Valentino, Siriano, and more.

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Savage X Fenty Runway Model

 

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Kacey Musgraves video star

 

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Red Carpet staple, attending the Primetime Emmy's, MTV Awards, Vanity Fair Academy Movie Museum, etc

 

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Hollywood Socialite booked by fellow celebrity elite like Madonna, Lil Nas X, Lizzo, Lil Kim, and more

 

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The Ebony Enchantress has remained BOOKED, BLESSED, and BUSY this entire year. Poor Willow/Bosco/Camden/Angie/Daya for having to follow in this trail blazer's footsteps. Their careers will be eclipsed by their predecessor I fear

 

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In just 2 days, the Most Successful Reign of All Time will come to an end and a newer, lesser queen will face the impossible task of trying to live up to the legacy of THEE Symone

 

Let us take a look back how RuPaul's successor and the true heir to the Drag Race throne became the greatest winner of all time:

 

 

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Symone became an immediate stand-out from the Meet the Queens Reveal in December 2020, where she outdid her entire cast in both her promo looks. Could someone from the same house G*gi Goodie came from actually serve quality fashion with a defined and branded aesthetic instead of just cosplaying in Halloween costumes made by their mom?

 

The answer was yes.

 

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Symone gave The Best Promo Look of All Time and was rightfully centered in the middle of the cast cause even VH1 couldn't bother to hide who the star of the season was.

 

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Episode 1 premiered with a controversial twist, immediately dividing the Best and Worst of the cast. Guess which group Thee Symone was in?

 

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Inspired by fellow model Gisele Bunchden, Symone walked into the competition in a polaroid dress literally no queen but her could ever pull off and faced off against fan favorite at the time Tamisha Iman in a lipsync to Pleasure Principal

 

LIPSYNC WIN #1

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After cementing herself as the front runner already, Symone decided to dig her heels even further into her competitors necks by slaying them AGAIN.

 

THE NAME'S SYMONE AND I'M HERE FOR THE THRONE

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BEAT FACE AND I'M ARKANSAS GROWN

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THE EBONY ENCHANTRESS IS ME

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LEGS UP TO MY WAIST, TALENT YOU CAN'T REPLACE

 

This is the first time in Drag Race herstory that the crown was already decided by episode 2. Symone quite clearly was light years ahead of her competitors, if you can even call them that, and was given the first official win of the season

 

CHALLENGE WIN #1

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LIPSYNC WIN #2

 

By the time the entire cast got together on Episode 4, Symone was the only queen with 3 wins under her belt. You would think production would try to push her to the side a bit to give the other queens a chance but the power of Symone is just too strong. Symone already certified herself as the look queen and performer of the season in just 2 episodes but The Ebony Enchantress said I'm gonna be the actress and meme queen, as well.

 

 

 

Symone managed to make the horrible acting challenge bearable with her iconic Flag Fac'try and then proceeded to bring black culture center stage to the runway with her unforgettable Train for Days look

 

CHALLENGE WIN #2

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In 3 episodes, Symone's track record was WIN-WIN-WIN. The stuff of legends and the most dominant start of any season by any queen EVER

 

It took 5 entire episodes into the season for a moment where Symone didn't completely obliterate her competition during the Bag Ball. Knowing she's a legend in the making, Symone never bothered to learn how to sew since she knew she'd soon be too successful to ever need to.

 

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Symone took a break for episode 5, coincidentally the worst challenge of the season but still paid tribute to her future self, RuPaul with another spectacular runway

 

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Episode 6 SHOULD'VE been another win for Thee Symone but the producers had to acknowledge that there were other queens in the werk room still and gifted Olivia Symone's deserved 3rd win for Bossy Rossy instead.

 

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As if there's any doubt who won the runway though. Another iconic look in the basket for Thee Symone I fear

 

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Deciding that it wouldn't be great television for her to just dominate the entire season, Symone decide to flop the Social Media Rusical for vulnerability

 

LIPSYNC WIN #3

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Snatch Game arrived and Symone was robbed of a high placement for her brilliant Harriet Tubman impersonation. Never fear though, even when the production is not giving her her flowers, a legend takes matters into her own hands. And Symone did just that by stopping the world with her iconic, breath-taking Fascinators look. Breaking the 4th wall of reality television and forcing this racist ass fanbase to recognize the atrocities black people are faced with in this country. A moment for the ages.

 

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THEE Symone made actual headlines with this look. Yahoo called it HISTORIC, Entertainment Weekly called it THE MOST POWERFUL LOOK IN DRAG RACE HERSTORY

 

On Episode 10, the Makeover challenge came along and Symone decided to be charitable and give local kooky weirdo and overrated white fave Utica her first and only win of the season

 

CHALLENGE WIN #3

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And like a true legend, Symone is most comfortable at the top. So she won the very next episode as well, introducing us to the iconic jingle for Sweet Toof, giving her a historic, record-breaking 4th win

 

CHALLENGE WIN #4

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And took is upon herself to give visibility and hope to a maligned community

 

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And just as white mediocrity was at an all-time high and people in this very thread decide to spew vicious and unbelievable lies such as Utica is a lipsync assassin or look queen of the season, Symone did me a personal favor and got rid of that try-hard once and for all.

 

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LIPSYNC WIN #4

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Leading into the finale, it was no doubt who was winning the season

 

LIPSYNC WIN #5

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You wanna wanna taste of me? I'm the motherfucking Ebony

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Enchantress, it took a minute oh but now I see

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I'm the Sugar Honey Iced Tea

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I got the fashion, beauty, and the brains

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You see that crown? Oh baby, that's for ME

 

 

LIPSYNC WIN #6

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LIPSYNC WIN #7

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Iconic. History. Legendary. Mold Breaking. Record Shattering.

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THEE SYMONE

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Take it in laid ease cause it will be a long time til we ever get another winner this legendary.

 

Well laid ease, the time is now upon us. Today is the day the greatest gift to drag, Thee Symone's ultra successful, mold-breaking and record-shattering reign comes to an end. It's hard to believe that just 364 days ago, our Best Winner of All Time was crowned. To think it's only been a year must be shocking since she's accomplished more than most queens will in their entire lifetime in just the span of one year - in the midst of a pandemic mind you.

 

As we mourn the end of the Most Successful Reign in Drag Race Herstory and move on to a lesser and sure to be unexciting queen, let's take a look back at the accomplishments that show precisely why your fave could absolutely, under no circumstance, never.

 

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It's hard to even envision what this trail-blazer will accomplish in the next year.

 

Another feature film?

More magazine covers?

Winning All Winners 2?

Replacing RuPaul as the host of Drag Race?

 

One thing's for sure and two thing's for certain

It'll be more than whatever any other queen does, know that.

 

CHARISMA

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UNIQUENESS

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NERVE

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TALENT

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ACCLAIM

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BEAUTY

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SUCCESS

 

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And remember kids,

 

Don't let the smooth taste fool ya, baby

 

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The way you just deflect by using race as a reason to avoid criticism is a bit troubling. Neither me nor Both Sides have ever gone hard for a white queen. And I’m always dragging the white girls in here constantly, so it’s not really an apt argument anyways. I was the loudest Monet and Shea supporter/defender during AS7. I’ve written essays combatting the Symone haters. I once again defended Shea during AS5. I stanned Rajah during AS6, although most of this thread did too at the time. I dragged Kylie, Gigi, Mik, Rose, etc. 
 

None of this was a personal attack or a character judgment but your reaction to a small correction of behavior is fairly childish. Simply addressing the fact that what you’re saying *could* be seen as ableist does not mean anyone thinks you are actually ableist. Much like how people saying things about Monet could be seen as racist even if it’s just how they feel about her. All anyone was saying was that we should be aware of how things can come across, and that your statement often goes with common misplaced criticisms of chronically ill people. Simply saying “I see what you’re saying, I didn’t mean it that way, but I will be more aware, thanks!” was enough, but you’ve yet again turned this into a 2 day argument. This is gonna be my last post addressing this, but the reaction is fairly disappointing.

Posted

there's something off about marcia's mug. she's serving boy who slapped on a wig 

Posted
28 minutes ago, Relampago. said:

The way you just deflect by using race as a reason to avoid criticism is a bit troubling. Neither me nor Both Sides have ever gone hard for a white queen. And I’m always dragging the white girls in here constantly, so it’s not really an apt argument anyways. I was the loudest Monet and Shea supporter/defender during AS7. I’ve written essays combatting the Symone haters. I once again defended Shea during AS5. I stanned Rajah during AS6, although most of this thread did too at the time. I dragged Kylie, Gigi, Mik, Rose, etc. 
 

None of this was a personal attack or a character judgment but your reaction to a small correction of behavior is fairly childish. Simply addressing the fact that what you’re saying *could* be seen as ableist does not mean anyone thinks you are actually ableist. Much like how people saying things about Monet could be seen as racist even if it’s just how they feel about her. All anyone was saying was that we should be aware of how things can come across, and that your statement often goes with common misplaced criticisms of chronically ill people. Simply saying “I see what you’re saying, I didn’t mean it that way, but I will be more aware, thanks!” was enough, but you’ve yet again turned this into a 2 day argument. This is gonna be my last post addressing this, but the reaction is fairly disappointing.

Your last post could've been yesterday if you didn't want a 2 day argument cause my post today was in response to two posts *made today* not by you. Didn't even mention you, nor were you and Both Sides the only one commenting, but as was said in a post yesterday...a hit dog will holler, won't it? 

 

I don't avoid critcism and certainly don't need to use race to deflect any. Pointing out that Yvie -  a winner who also has a disability - NEVER got this kind of nuance or coddling over her career post S11 and Symone, the most recent winner who actually did great things and STILL got called a flop meanwhile excuses are made for Willow left and right isn't deflection. It's highlighting the very clear and obvious difference this thread treats black vs white queens. Yvie is a black queen with a debilitating disability and ATRL calls her a flop. Symone is a black queen who succeeded beyond ANY of her peers and ATRL still calls her a flop. Willow a white queen gets called a flop and girls come rushing to say it's ableist to say so. The worst thing anyone even said about Willow in the past few pages is she's a "flop winner" and doesn't have a big career. Ya'll are the ones dragging it out because those comments are minor af - ESPECIALLY compared to the criticisms black queens get. If she's not a flop winner, say why. Not these think pieces about how it's an ableist train of thought to say she only tours with the S14 girls when that's a fact. 

 

You got people in here PRETENDING to know about her disability and say she can't travel or book other gigs because it's physically demanding yet she's quite literally touring nationwide. Some of yall are in here making up stories about what her disability can or cannot do to try to accuse people calling her a flop of being ableist. Like I already said, she's fully capable of touring because she does. She's just not capable of having a solo tour cause she's not a star. She's fully capable of doing photoshoots, because she does. She's just not capable of being in magazines cause she's not a star and they don't want her. She's fully capable of branded IG posts because she's done them, she just doesn't get many because she's not a star and companies obviously aren't reaching out. None of that is down to her disability. You claiming otherwise is the deflection, not me. 

 

And then you show your ass even further by making some comment about people getting called garbage for stanning a white queen. This thread is MAJORITY posters who stan white queens. Stop the wannabe victimization act. Literally no one calls anyone garbage for liking white queens. This is the same thread that mods had to put a trigger warning banner ontop of because of how racist it is towards black queens and the same thread that allows users to say people only like certain black queens because of pandering or spoilers. Be for f'ing real. 

Posted

…anyways

 

I think I’m really going to like Luxx. Her makeup is different but I’m kind of into it. After seeing that performance of Virgo’s Groove I’m guessing she’s gonna serve Villain Jorgeous and Jorgeous was my S14 fave so I’m rooting for Miss London!

Posted

Ugh I wish S15 was on Vh1 instead of MTV. Drag Race is going back to 1 hour episode which is really 40-45 minutes instead of the standard 60 minutes without commercials we’ve gotten these past few years. And starting on January 20th, a new show starring  Todrick will air after Drag Race. That mean Untucked will be airing an hour later after Todrick’s show. 
 

I’m not happy that we are getting shorter episodes which mean everything will feel condensed and rushed especially with a huge cast like this one. 

Posted (edited)

Can't wait to see legend Sasha's entrance, the look on the other queens' faces will be priceless :jonnycat:

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Posted

Luxx seems much more exciting than Jorgeous :giraffe:
Hoping the dimwit thing is a shtick n

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Posted

I’m EXHAUSTED just reading a few of the posts here.  
 

 

Marcia x3 had boy body and a pinterest idea of an outfit.  Curious what she’ll look like in a design challenge if she makes it that far?

Posted
33 minutes ago, publikcitizen said:

Ugh I wish S15 was on Vh1 instead of MTV. Drag Race is going back to 1 hour episode which is really 40-45 minutes instead of the standard 60 minutes without commercials we’ve gotten these past few years. And starting on January 20th, a new show starring  Todrick will air after Drag Race. That mean Untucked will be airing an hour later after Todrick’s show. 
 

I’m not happy that we are getting shorter episodes which mean everything will feel condensed and rushed especially with a huge cast like this one. 

Please delete

 

 

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Posted

Just accidentally found out people are actually fighting about Luxx's hair on Twitter. Irene racist for saying it's not 40", Luxx a pathological liar for saying it is... I hate this fandom :toofunny3:

 

Anyway,

Posted

Are we really only getting 1 hour of main drag race, having to wait an hour, then the 30 minutes of untucked ??? 

 

This MTV move was for the worst if true 

Posted
15 minutes ago, Desire said:

Are we really only getting 1 hour of main drag race, having to wait an hour, then the 30 minutes of untucked ??? 

 

This MTV move was for the worst if true 

Yep starting January 20th 

Posted

I ran a simulator for S15 and the MESS :deadbanana4: Top 3 is kinda serving ngl.

 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, R.E.M. said:

I ran a simulator for S15 and the MESS :deadbanana4: Top 3 is kinda serving ngl.

 

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Anetra better NOT be the first one out, her lipsyncs are a serve

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Posted

 

1 hour ago, TheOnlyOne said:

Please delete

 

 

But Canada's Drag Race judge Brad Goreski is also in it :gaycat2:

 

 

Posted

Sasha & Luxx as the top 2 would be a serve as they are my faves from the cast as of now but having Sasha only lipsync once is not the tea.

 

I still hope she wins but I need to see her in the bottom lipsyncing at least 3-4 times. Please don't rob us of off that show. 

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Relampago. said:

The way people moved on from Willow but people are still fuming about it an entire day later. :skull: 

 

I’m surprised we aren’t being lectured about Raja and Watch Mojo or told we’re all garbage people because someone likes white, BFA Marcia. A nice change of pace I suppose. 

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The way watch mojo and a weekly wow presents YouTube show skewed  the perception of a famdom into making you think raja is more iconic then she really is.  Speak👏🏽 the👏🏽 truth!👏🏽 Raja is the original GotMik. 

 

Another thing. Why are yall all making such a big deal out of this whole bfa thing. Like literally yall now dictating how artists should go about their professional lives now is next level cringe. it's so pointless.  That's  literally how  life works. They don't find  some kind of measured success in one area, they grow learn adapt and go on to the next. Do yall want them to enter nursing instead? Drag already aligns to the arts so it's only fitting they would want go this route. Nothing wrong with it.

Posted

Poor S15 girls, less screentime does not bode well. Especially since the fandom already has a short attention span. 

 

God, I hate Todrick :mazen:

Why does he get chance after chance??

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Posted
1 hour ago, feelslikeadream said:

 

But Canada's Drag Race judge Brad Goreski is also in it :gaycat2:

 

 

The worst Canada judge.  Delete him and bring back Stacey

Posted
1 hour ago, R.E.M. said:

I ran a simulator for S15 and the MESS :deadbanana4: Top 3 is kinda serving ngl.

 

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Aura winning dance i can see (dont know enough about other queens tbh for the rest of this) but if she is out on first half i will riot. The asian hate must stop. 😭😭

Posted

Going to shorter episodes again might be for the best if they cut the trauma porn 

Posted
2 hours ago, feelslikeadream said:

 

But Canada's Drag Race judge Brad Goreski is also in it :gaycat2:

 

 

Not this....

 

 

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I personally don't mind the episode being shorter, as long as it means less tragic mirror talk. :clap3:And since I'm not gonna watch live on MTV anyway, it won't affect me this lame show being in the middle, but as soon as this mess starts, I can see a lot of people turning the TV off and not bothering with Untucked, hopefully it doesn't mean that Untucked will be a boring mess. 

 

Posted

Love shorter episodes only if they don't shorten the runways and with how long some of the challenges in season 14 were.

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