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[Day 894] Russian Invasion of Ukraine


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29 minutes ago, Espresso said:

Let's take votes. How many here think this was staged?

No sis, this was not staged from the beginning. Not by Putin. Not after FSB announced that Prigozhin should be captured/killed this morning, and Putin himself called it all a treason. Putin now looks freaking pathetic and this will indeed hurt him in the long run.

 

Anyway, most probably they were negotiating all this time and Prigozhin got what he wanted.

 

Also, someone asked about nazis, here you have one (tattoos):

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24 minutes ago, Espresso said:

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Let's take votes. How many here think this was staged?

It's possible in case to somehow save putin and end the war but I think it's just a fight between mafia clans  :gaycat2: Anyway, it's a great time for Ukraine to retake the territories and move forward :gaycat2: 

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I don't think it's over. There's always infighting in Russian politics and this just intensified it.

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4 minutes ago, ZIVERT said:

I don’t think it was staged, I think Prigozhin is an egomaniac and wanted to force Putin’s hand. But who knows where it goes from here

2 minutes ago, karma police said:

No sis, this was not staged from the beginning. Not by Putin. Not after FSB announced that Prigozhin should be captured/killed this morning, and Putin himself called it all a treason. Putin now looks freaking weak and this will indeed hurt him in the long run.

 

Anyway, most probably they were negotiating all this time and Prigozhin got what he wanted.

 

Also, someone asked about nazis, here you have one (tattoos):

Fair :coffee2: so......

 

SCENARIOS

 

1) This was elaborately staged & the ~12 soldiers that died were collateral (least likely)
2) Putin was legitimately terrified and had Belarus do his dirty work (less likely but maybe mixture of this with #3)
3) All internal politics to change the Minister of Defence and more, from Shoigu to Prigozhin ally Dyumin (who was the ex-deputy head of MoD)

 

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Well that's enough fun for one morning. I've been on this damn thread for hours.

 

Feel free to post away to your heart's content but I'm taking a break. Peace.

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Let's have some rest. It's like to watch a long award show, including pre-ceremony, for 5 hours, to realize your fave lost in all 12 nominations. :skull:

 

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:rip: 

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5 minutes ago, Fastlane said:

Let's have some rest. It's like to watch a long award show, including pre-ceremony, for 5 hours, to realize your fave lost in all 12 nominations. :skull:

 

If this indeed was just a power move to remove the MoD then this is the "best case scenario" (of course Russian civil war would've been the only true way out, but millions would have died). Weakened and humiliated Putin. 

 

Them taking over Russia or Putin crushing the Wagner group with ease would've been devastating for the whole world. 

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In 3 days to Moskva instead of Kyiv is hilarious.

 

Not the beginning of the russian civil war being meme'd like this.

It's already over half a million views.

 

The news is going too fast for me to follow in other sources and forums. I'm like at least 10 pages behind.

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Just now, katykater said:

In 3 days to Moskva instead of Kyiv is hilarious.

 

 

The news is going too fast for me to follow in other sources and forums. I'm like at least 10 pages behind.

Stop reading. It's over. A flop.

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@Espresso

4. This was all Prigozhin's rage as he knew that without doing something Shoigu will take away all the money and power he stole/gained over the years and eventually kill him. And now with his "army" only miles away from Moscow he can negotiate with Putin from the position of power. Maybe he even thought that Putin will join his side.

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3 minutes ago, Terylee said:

Stop reading. It's over. A flop.

Don't mention that my Telegram notifications went over 9000 many times.

 

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@Espresso

Tbh, need some time to digest this, but leaning to not staged.

 

Extremely dumb move if staged, all this to only replace shoigu? This showed that putin is weak, that russia is weak, in the end it wasn’t even putin that stopped prigozhin but lukashenko ? :deadbanana4: not a cute look

 

I’m thinking this wasn’t staged and that prigozhin is dying soon. bye bye!

 

and i guess we won’t be hearing & seeing “the signal” from belarus :redface:

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14 minutes ago, karma police said:

@Espresso

4. This was all Prigozhin's rage as he knew that without doing something Shoigu will take away all the money and power he stole/gained over the years and eventually kill him. And now with his "army" only miles away from Moscow he can negotiate with Putin from the position of power.

6 minutes ago, nasa said:

@Espresso

Tbh, need some time to digest this, but leaning to not staged.

 

Extremely dumb move if staged, all this to only replace shoigu? This showed that putin is weak, that russia is weak, in the end it wasn’t even putin that stopped prigozhin but lukashenko ? :deadbanana4: not a cute look

 

I’m thinking this wasn’t staged and that prigozhin is dying soon. bye bye!

 

and i guess we won’t be hearing & seeing “the signal” from belarus :redface:

All great points. :coffee2: 

 

Anyways, will be back tonight maybe for more follow-up. 

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He’s such a chicken little :doc:

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7 minutes ago, Terylee said:

Stop reading. It's over. A flop.

It's absolutely not over. If anything it's the beginning of the end, cause the system showed it's weak, pathetic and rotten to the core. In autocracies this is on MUST NOT DO lists :mandown:

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That criminal head of wagner thinks he made a deal with Putin. He hasn't. Wait for a couple of days and he will be found dead :gaycat2:

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So today Prigozhin got a criminal charge for betrayal of Russia and then got off the charge within the same day.

 

:ahh: 

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Didn't the Wagners shot down some Russian helicopters ??? Did anyone die, how are they gonna justify this ?? Someone's head is going slipping off their neck....

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17 minutes ago, BlackAura said:

Didn't the Wagners shot down some Russian helicopters ??? Did anyone die, how are they gonna justify this ?? Someone's head is going slipping off their neck....

12 people died, iirc. 

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Exactly. Like, aren't they most likely gonna kill all of the rebels anyways? :skull:

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