harrythevifan Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: Like BLACKPINK are almost a direct copy of 2NE1. YG is really something else wow Was there ever a better elevator pitch in the history of kpop than "A pretty 2NE1"?
Zack Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, harrythevifan said: Was there ever a better elevator pitch in the history of kpop than "A pretty 2NE1"? Well we've already got the next gen equivalent of this, with the "10 Jennies" description for BP's successor. YG will never change.
OrgVisual Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 11 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: And Army's still have the audacity to claim that BTS paved the way for BP, when it's all on paper that it was BP's own YG label mates who did that for them (2NE1 and PSY) Well BTS did pave the way for the exploding popularity of Kpop on a global scale, and that includes BP and several other groups (like Stray Kids who just scored a #1 BB200) BP's concept was modelled after 2NE1 Those are 2 different things
taemin Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: PSY sweetie.... Genuine question: do you think Psy would sell millions of albums if he had the USA as his target and sell out stadiums worldwide if he embarked on a world tour? Edited April 22, 2022 by diogozsz
Jared Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 39 minutes ago, Sept said: Well BTS did pave the way for the exploding popularity of Kpop on a global scale, and that includes BP and several other groups (like Stray Kids who just scored a #1 BB200) BP's concept was modelled after 2NE1 Those are 2 different things I agree with this statement, however my main issue with ARMYs is that they like to belittle the accomplishments of past groups that led kpop to a place where BTS could achieve that global popularity.
OrgVisual Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 33 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: PSY sweetie.... Anyways BP blew up from debut way in 2016. Boombayah was bigger than anything BTS had released up to that point, since they used to be a nugu group from 2013-2015. BTS started to get really popular and became the top group around 2017 while BP already exploded in 2016. Back then before I became a kpop fan, I had heard a lot more about BP in the media etc. than BTS. Maybe argue on fact rather than your personal opinion BP had their first single and album charted on Billboard in 2018, one year after BTS became the first kpop group to chart on Billboard Hot 100 (if we don't count Wonder Girls' fraudulent sales), and the very same year that BTS had their first #1 Billboard with Love Yourself: Tear and exploded in popularity in the West with Fake Love + Boy With Luv
BTS Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 4 hours ago, harrythevifan said: Hopefully it's a bulletpoof boy scout enlistment dis track. Not after Hybe acquired his company. Theyre labelmates
taemin Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Pluto2022 said: people around the world didn't even realize that his music was kpop there you go
rzal Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, Sept said: Maybe argue on fact rather than your personal opinion BP had their first single and album charted on Billboard in 2018, one year after BTS became the first kpop group to chart on Billboard Hot 100 (if we don't count Wonder Girls' fraudulent sales), and the very same year that BTS had their first #1 Billboard with Love Yourself: Tear and exploded in popularity in the West with Fake Love + Boy With Luv Lol. BTS first charted on Bubbling Under in March 2017, Blackpink in July 2017. Both groups charted on Hot 100 with their next single. The only difference is that BTS released 3 singles before Ddu-Ddu Ddu-Du. They didn't pave any way for Blackpink
taemin Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Pluto2022 said: BTS has been trying to get rid of the "kpop label" for years now and have tried everything including releasing radio friendly english music, which they hate themselves PSY got rid of the kpop label without even trying and sticking to his roots Why is “getting rid of the kpop label” a win for you?
Zack Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, diogozsz said: Why is “getting rid of the kpop label” a win for you? Indeed. It's also not something that actually happened. Psy was only ever a novelty act who burnt out internationally after a few singles.
VelvetCrush Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: BTS has been trying to get rid of the "kpop label" which PSy did for years now and they have tried everything including releasing radio friendly english music, which they hate themselves PSY did that without even trying and sticking to his roots Both artists are NOT trying to get rid of the kpop label only a few delusional armys think that BTS are not kpop
taemin Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Pluto2022 said: You was the the one who quoted that part first though? I was just pointing out that people who didn't know of kpop knew about PSY. And when did I say BTS got rid of the kpop label? No matter how many horrible English singles they put out they’ll always have the essence of a K-pop group and they’ll always be associated to Korean pop. Nothing wrong with that.
taemin Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Pluto2022 said: Didn't Suga fell some type a way about them it still being labelled kpop instead of just "pop" (I might be wrong) Are you talking about this? https://www.nme.com/news/music/bts-suga-k-pop-meaning-2395107 Because that’s not what he said at all.
taemin Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: You tried to downplay PSY and his impact on kpop just because I said that a lot of people didn't know about him being kpop at first (cause he was so mainstream), so i pointed out on how BTS also wants to get rid of the kpop label. 1. BTS aren’t trying to get rid of the k-pop label. 2. You’re losing the plot. One second “people didn’t see Psy as a k-pop artist” and “Psy got rid of the k-pop label” and the second after is “Psy and his impact on k-pop”? Psy is HUGE in Korea but Gangnam Style became huge due to a trend and he did gain the public’s interest for a second since Gentleman smashed as well. But let’s not get things twisted. K-pop became huge mainly because of fangirls (similar to One Direction back in the day) and that’s what k-pop is associated to when it comes to outsiders. Scoring a hit and making your genre mainstream and respect isn’t the same thing. K-pop still has a long way to go. Edited April 22, 2022 by diogozsz
Warclaud Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 49 minutes ago, VelvetCrush said: Both artists are NOT trying to get rid of the kpop label only a few delusional armys think that BTS are not kpop There’s a lot of army’s like that, they try to distance themselves so much from K-pop that they call K-pop fans “kpoppies” in a demeaning way
rapperjennie Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 the blinks gatekeeping Coachella is getting funny at this point
Xalric Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, rapperjennie said: the blinks gatekeeping Coachella is getting funny at this point Not insulting Tablo's daughter (a literal 11 years old child)...
Xalric Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 Not Kim Woojin (ex Stray Kids) filming a show for HBO MAX in Brazil.
rapperjennie Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Xalric said: Not insulting Tablo's daughter (a literal 11 years old child)... All over a music festival too never seen anyone gatekeep a random achievement like this
illia Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, rapperjennie said: the blinks gatekeeping Coachella is getting funny at this point over a f***ng music festival... we'd better use such energy on YGE
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