fan base K-Pop Thread: 2022 Archive

[Hazy]

11 minutes ago, Sorecer said:

People thinking newjennies won't be global 

 

 

they already are  without lifting a finger at that! charting on US and global spotify chart for almost two weeks now, surviving Holiday’s season, still in top 30, it’s crazy!

 

Hybe Boy is charting on the global chart almost non stop since the release, they hold the record for that  some groups struggle to enter the chart for a day, yet users here still imply that they are at the end of the successful gg list because their total sales/digitals/streams are lower than the rest… of course they are, they are 5 months old group  they basically have 3 songs in the top 10 on domestic charts too… that’s what you get for taking the numbers and going with them without considering various factors that also makes difference when analising data 

[Sorecer]

6 minutes ago, Eternium said:

This is it exactly. It’s why the ambassador thing was hell for akgaes - the ambassador would get to look nice while the other members would wear cheap, unflattering clothes that the company could afford. It’s why Wonyoung and Yujin are always dressed nicely and the rest of IVE get leftovers and poorly sized clothing.

It’s just GOT The Beat, which is a famous phrase. 

Just wait until the album details come out, sis.

 

What we really need in 2023 is for SM to get a U.S. distribution deal. For the love of God  

Doesn't aespa have? I'm sure they do 

[fais_2311]

She was amazing in Big Mouth. The standard of idol actress 

[Hazy]

1 minute ago, thirdward said:

the most important comeback will be aespa I mean it will actually feel like a comeback lmao 

true, everyone is curious what their next move will be 

[starstruckaj]

Not Baemon getting freed from the dungeon while all these boy group members leave YG  Despite whatever mess they got going on in that building I'm sure the pinks will be fine. Ngl I'd gag if Jinni or Garam was magically in the lineup

 

Their reveal/debut and GOT the Beat mini on New Years Day >>>>>>, what a slay

 

 

[Adama]

6 minutes ago, Hazy said:

they already are  without lifting a finger at that! charting on US and global spotify chart for almost two weeks now, surviving Holiday’s season, still in top 30, it’s crazy!

 

Hybe Boy is charting on the global chart almost non stop since the release, they hold the record for that  some groups struggle to enter the chart for a day, yet users here still imply that they are at the end of the successful gg list because their total sales/digitals/streams are lower than the rest… of course they are, they are 5 months old group  they basically have 3 songs in the top 10 on domestic charts too… that’s what you get for taking the numbers and going with them without considering various factors that also makes difference when analising data 

Yeah they are not promoting in the US like Aespa but to say that they’re global without lifting a fingers when their songs are put on a lot of big playlists (like LSRFM and IVE btw). 

Plus they got a TTH placement, something no others Kpop act got, if I’m not mistaken even Super M didn’t get a TTH spot. 
 

 

[Witnessed ET]

10 minutes ago, Hazy said:

they already are  without lifting a finger at that! charting on US and global spotify chart for almost two weeks now, surviving Holiday’s season, still in top 30, it’s crazy!

 

Hybe Boy is charting on the global chart almost non stop since the release, they hold the record for that  some groups struggle to enter the chart for a day, yet users here still imply that they are at the end of the successful gg list because their total sales/digitals/streams are lower than the rest… of course they are, they are 5 months old group  they basically have 3 songs in the top 10 on domestic charts too… that’s what you get for taking the numbers and going with them without considering various factors that also makes difference when analising data 

It’s still so surreal to see their success tbh. I mean WHO else had this kind of domestic AND global success in their debut year? Even BP didn’t have this (granted kpop wasn’t as big globally but you get the point). It might be too early to tell, but NewJeans truly are leading this gen rn. 

[Witnessed ET]

2 minutes ago, Adama said:

Yeah they are not promoting in the US like Aespa but to say that they’re global without lifting a fingers when their songs are put on a lot of big playlists (like LSRFM and IVE btw). 

Plus they got a TTH placement, something no others Kpop act got, if I’m not mistaken even Super M didn’t get a TTH spot. 
 

 

They did get a TTH spot but that was towards the bottom. That barely makes any difference lmao. 

[Witnessed ET]

1 hour ago, thirdward said:

BTS’ solos kinda flopped when we think about it 

BP members are definitely bigger than bts individually 

The only ones who can compete with the BP girls individually are JK, Jimin and V. I think V’s solo will do better than any BP girlie. But yeah rest of the BoTS, no1curr I guess (except the diehard bots fans). 

[Sorecer]

37 minutes ago, mokitsu said:

KPOP Emergency?

 

 

 

still left 2 weeks for the release 

[sourprint]

31 minutes ago, Sorecer said:

I think after mid 2023 probably in the summer but who knows they are doing numbers without trying 

summer 2023 is my personal choice but who knows right maybe they wanna focus them in korea still

[Eternium]

19 minutes ago, Hazy said:

they already are  without lifting a finger at that! charting on US and global spotify chart for almost two weeks now, surviving Holiday’s season, still in top 30, it’s crazy!

 

Hybe Boy is charting on the global chart almost non stop since the release, they hold the record for that  some groups struggle to enter the chart for a day, yet users here still imply that they are at the end of the successful gg list because their total sales/digitals/streams are lower than the rest… of course they are, they are 5 months old group  they basically have 3 songs in the top 10 on domestic charts too… that’s what you get for taking the numbers and going with them without considering various factors that also makes difference when analising data 

Baby, nobody is arguing that NewJeans isn’t set up for massive success - they’re likely to be competing with BlackPink, Aespa, (G)-IDLE and IVE for #1 girl group of 2023. It’ll literally just come down to which group releases three Korean physicals within the year.

 

You have this narrative that people are trying to put NewJeans down by posting an objective chart compiled of album equivalents for the calendar year when the argument was about whether or not Aespa flopped. You literally interjected NewJeans into a conversation and then got mad at the objective chart results. Take a breather - I support most 4th Gen groups and have a thread dedicated to their receipts. I’m not putting any group down by celebrating the success of these women   

18 minutes ago, Sorecer said:

Doesn't aespa have? I'm sure they do 

They do for Warner, but they are SM’s only female act with one. SNSD “had” one in 2011, but it never went anywhere. Meanwhile, every SM male group except TVXQ and SHINee have one.

[Xalric]

 

 

The fun fact of it all Jinho never followed Hui to begin with.

 

 

 

[Dialamba]

27 minutes ago, Eternium said:

This is it exactly. It’s why the ambassador thing was hell for akgaes - the ambassador would get to look nice while the other members would wear cheap, unflattering clothes that the company could afford. It’s why Wonyoung and Yujin are always dressed nicely and the rest of IVE get leftovers and poorly sized clothing.

 

Yeah BP styling improved massively as soon they started being brands ambassadors the thing is that BP suit their brands I hate Celine but Lisa’s style is tomboyish, rosé looks classy with YSL etc however just because you endorse a brand doesn’t mean you’re prevented from getting ugly outfits. Louis Vuitton and Hyein is weird combo she would fit a brand more youthful like Miu Miu/or BLUMARINE 

 

Every artists wear luxury goods you get nugu groups wearing $1200 tops. Because brands send them to stylists which would chose the looks. 
 

Non Izone members literally wear Versace, fendi etc they just don’t fit what they wear. 
 

 

 

 

[Eternium]

3 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said:

The only ones who can compete with the BP girls individually are JK, Jimin and V. I think V’s solo will do better than any BP girlie. But yeah rest of the BoTS, no1curr I guess (except the diehard bots fans). 

I’ve never even heard the individual BTS members’ names nor could I tell you how many members are in their group. It’s crazy to me that males are so much more commercially viable that they can sell 10x what a female can even without the same level of name recognition. 

[Adama]

16 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said:

They did get a TTH spot but that was towards the bottom. That barely makes any difference lmao. 

Even if it’s at the bottom, we can’t say that Ador is not lifting a fingers. They actually work for making them global and unlike SM they are more smarter lol! 

Edited December 30, 2022 by Adama

[discreetinside]

13 minutes ago, Adama said:

none of these girls have topped THEM 

 

especially Lee Jung Hyun, she’s a legend, she created a whole movement in SK, an ICON 

 

 

I remember someone saying Uhm Jung Hwa was like the Madonna of Korea back then. And her hits was popular to the point it was covered by artists in other language.

 

 

Speaking of Lee Jung Hyun, her mic placed on the fingers was so iconic back then  She's like the Gaga of Kpop before Gaga even exist in 2008

 

 

And yes just like Uhm Jung Hwa she have hits that also covered by other artists in different languages as well.

 

 

[Adama]

4 minutes ago, discreetinside said:

I remember someone saying Uhm Jung Hwa was like the Madonna of Korea back then. And her hits was popular to the point it was covered by artists in other language.

 

 

Speaking of Lee Jung Hyun, her mic placed on the fingers was so iconic back then  She's like the Gaga of Kpop before Gaga even exist in 2008

 

 

And yes just like Uhm Jung Hwa she have hits that also covered by other artists in different languages as well.

 

 

When she put the fish on her mouth  ! 
I love her. I Miss these type of soloists in SK. 

[Xalric]

 

The fact that Uhm Jung Hwa STILL GOT IT. 

[Sheep]

Who asked for GOT The Beat cb? Hyoyeon and Boa? Musically it’s a waste of talent with that NCT noise. Financially it’s a waste of time for much more profitable and in demand acts.
 

I’ve always loved boa but I seriously think she’s spent the past few years draining company resources to prop up her dying career. 

Edited December 30, 2022 by Century

[conquxror]

the reason why newjeans got so popular from the beginning was (1) them being under hybe, (2) them being a group made by min heejin and (3) them sounding unique and soft in a kpop era where everything seems experimental and heavy sounding. 

 

the second min heejin announced her label under hybe there was hype around it because they KNEW she would bring something unique to the table. sm's biggest mistake was letting her go, she literally built their image and put them where they are today by giving all of sm groups interesting concepts. now she left and look how easily sm is blending with other companies, there's nothing original going on for them - unless we're talking about that corny kwangya **** that already looks and sounds dated.  

 

i still dream about what aespa would look and sound like if she was still working for sm. even groups like red velvet had a MASSIVE downgrade after she left. 

(off topic but i was kind of hoping she would take krystal under her label since they're so close and we would finally get that solo debut we so desperately need but... yeah... not happening)

[Gaia]

45 minutes ago, fais_2311 said:

She was amazing in Big Mouth. The standard of idol actress 

oop there goes that one member's fake news that she only wins "popularity awards" 

[Gaia]

2 minutes ago, conquxror said:

the reason why newjeans got so popular from the beginning was (1) them being under hybe, (2) them being a group made by min heejin and (3) them sounding unique and soft in a kpop era where everything seems experimental and heavy sounding. 

 

the second min heejin announced her label under hybe there was hype around it because they KNEW she would bring something unique to the table. sm's biggest mistake was letting her go, she literally built their image and put them where they are today by giving all of sm groups interesting concepts. now she left and look how easily sm is blending with other companies, there's nothing original going on for them - unless we're talking about that corny kwangya **** that already looks and sounds dated.  

 

i still dream about what aespa would look and sound like if she was still working for sm. even groups like red velvet had a MASSIVE downgrade after she left. 

(off topic but i was kind of hoping she would take krystal under her label since they're so close and we would finally get that solo debut we so desperately need but... yeah... not happening)

The biggest issue with SM is SM. 

 

NJ would not be NJ under SM. SM for the last like 10 years, has thought that loud pots and pans music is the only thing international audiences like. Which is bizarre because their groups continue to fall short internationally. But SM refuses to change their formula.

 

It's still...bizarre to me that SM thought Jopping would be some hit anywhere.

Edited December 30, 2022 by Gaia

[Sheep]

4 minutes ago, conquxror said:

the reason why newjeans got so popular from the beginning was (1) them being under hybe, (2) them being a group made by min heejin and (3) them sounding unique and soft in a kpop era where everything seems experimental and heavy sounding. 

 

the second min heejin announced her label under hybe there was hype around it because they KNEW she would bring something unique to the table. sm's biggest mistake was letting her go, she literally built their image and put them where they are today by giving all of sm groups interesting concepts. now she left and look how easily sm is blending with other companies, there's nothing original going on for them - unless we're talking about that corny kwangya **** that already looks and sounds dated.  

 

i still dream about what aespa would look and sound like if she was still working for sm. even groups like red velvet had a MASSIVE downgrade after she left. 

(off topic but i was kind of hoping she would take krystal under her label since they're so close and we would finally get that solo debut we so desperately need but... yeah... not happening)

People severely overestimate MHJ’s impact at SM. She wasn’t responsible for every single group and release.

 

2 minutes ago, Gaia said:

The biggest issue with SM is SM. 

 

NJ would not be NJ under SM. SM for the last like 10 years, has thought that loud pots and pans music is the only thing international audiences like. Which is bizarre because their groups continue to fall short internationally. But SM refuses to change their formula.

 

It's still...bizarre to me that SM thought Jopping would be some hit anywhere.

Watching SM come to that noise music conclusion with EXO was like watching a car accident in slow motion. 

[Hazy]

28 minutes ago, Adama said:

Yeah they are not promoting in the US like Aespa but to say that they’re global without lifting a fingers when their songs are put on a lot of big playlists (like LSRFM and IVE btw). 

Plus they got a TTH placement, something no others Kpop act got, if I’m not mistaken even Super M didn’t get a TTH spot. 
 

 

I don’t think Ditto is on TTH and it’s doing amazing without any additional promo, that’s during Christmas season too

 

but yeah, to say they are global is too much, they clearly have the appeal and showed HUGE growth already so we will see what future holds 

 

27 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said:

It’s still so surreal to see their success tbh. I mean WHO else had this kind of domestic AND global success in their debut year? Even BP didn’t have this (granted kpop wasn’t as big globally but you get the point). It might be too early to tell, but NewJeans truly are leading this gen rn. 

yes, they have the appeal and they are outdoing everyone but BTS and BP atm, it’s wild 

 

15 minutes ago, Eternium said:

Baby, nobody is arguing that NewJeans isn’t set up for massive success - they’re likely to be competing with BlackPink, Aespa, (G)-IDLE and IVE for #1 girl group of 2023. It’ll literally just come down to which group releases three Korean physicals within the year.

 

You have this narrative that people are trying to put NewJeans down by posting an objective chart compiled of album equivalents for the calendar year when the argument was about whether or not Aespa flopped. You literally interjected NewJeans into a conversation and then got mad at the objective chart results. Take a breather - I support most 4th Gen groups and have a thread dedicated to their receipts. I’m not putting any group down by celebrating the success of these women   

 

please re read my comment, especially the part about variables that should be considered when analising data, ok? I understand your point, but I’m not obliged to agree with your point of view - of course data you provided is correct, but I don’t agree with interpreting it without context, same way as sales or streams from 2010 and 2020 cannot be just compared like that, to put it simple and as an example 

 

aespa had tough year, underperformed single and streams wise, but achived groudbreaking success with sales and we can leave it at that, okay? time will show what SM has in store for them