fan base K-Pop Thread: 2022 Archive

[Britney Jean]

4 minutes ago, Green Tea Is Green said:

From what I witnessed during debut 90% of their fans were onces, then blinks token stanned them and used 'em to drag twice so onces quickly switched also the fact their music quality was so inconsistent, after wonder girls-miss a-twice and a really good debut song you would've expected something... yknow 

it's tragic how they never really topped Dalla Dalla qualitea-wise. Wannabe is the better song but conceptually missing the mysterious cool girls image we got in Itzy debut 

[Eternium]

59 minutes ago, Hazy said:

I don’t have any issues with my faves flopping/doing worse than before, BP did worse than IVE and NJ this year (in Korea) and I won’t make some delusional excuses or alter the numbers to suit my narrative   Eleven was released in December so majority of its points are counted in 2022, same for aespa’s DCT - to allude that aespa did better this year than NJ or even BP is delusional, that’s it - if you divide the points by era you will get clear results, aespa underperformed this year, both in Korea and ww - the only thing they have over NJ are sales, which is amazing and impressive too!    IVE managed to catch up with AL and BP is out of the talk too in that department

 

it doesn’t mean they cannot bounce back next year and I will happily admit it if it happens! 

Aespa had their biggest year in digitals, their biggest year in Spotify/YouTube streams and their biggest year in physicals (Girls was the #1 female physical ever until Born Pink, is still the #1 female mini album ever and still the #1 physical for fourth Gen GGs). Yes, Girls wasn’t a massive digital smash - but Aespa supplemented it with sustained catalog interest and the biggest fourth Gen B-side, Illusion.

And where do you get that I’m altering the numbers? I run a receipts thread, sis. I’m posting exact numbers and you can go ahead and double check them, if you want. 
 

I think you girls need to let go of the idea that domestic digitals alone run everything. 600M digital points is equal to about 100M streams, the equivalent of about 67,000 albums. Now that girl groups are selling millions of albums, those digitals aren’t a massive deal just yet. Even with NewJeans’s record-breaking digital success, they still haven’t even hit 1.2M points (134k-ish album sales). That’s not to downplay them - just to show that domestic digitals don’t heavily outweigh physicals.

 

Top Girl Groups of 2022:

[collapse]1. BlackPink

2. IVE

3. ITZY

4. Aespa

5. TWICE

6. Red Velvet

7. (G)-IDLE

8. LE SSERAFIM

9. NMIXX

10. NewJeans[/collapse]

8 minutes ago, thirdward said:

this  

actual campaigns are more important 

They’re both important. What these companies are doing is selling the rights for these luxury fashion brands to promote themselves using their idols. This is important because it means that the company no longer has to pay for some performance and red carpet outfits - a luxury fashion brand now takes all of that cost and in return, they get promotion because their work is showing up in media. 

 

The campaign is more about the idol doing a photoshoot and being the overall global face, but that doesn’t make the ambassador programs less important. Did you see red carpet fashion back in Gen 2? It was  

[sourprint]

1 hour ago, Hazy said:

I don’t have any issues with my faves flopping/doing worse than before, BP did worse than IVE and NJ this year (in Korea) and I won’t make some delusional excuses or alter the numbers to suit my narrative   Eleven was released in December so majority of its points are counted in 2022, same for aespa’s DCT - to allude that aespa did better this year than NJ or even BP is delusional, that’s it - if you divide the points by era you will get clear results, aespa underperformed this year, both in Korea and ww - the only thing they have over NJ are sales, which is amazing and impressive too!    IVE managed to catch up with AL and BP is out of the talk too in that department

 

it doesn’t mean they cannot bounce back next year and I will happily admit it if it happens! 

newjeans was so much bigger than aespa this year

[Green Tea Is Green]

2 minutes ago, Britney Jean said:

it's tragic how they never really topped Dalla Dalla qualitea-wise. Wannabe is the better song but conceptually missing the mysterious cool girls image we got in Itzy debut 

Yeah wannabe was great as well, those 2 are the only songs I use + Surf but that's a bside  

[illia]

If only I could experience the day this came out

 

I kinda wish baby monsters would release something pre debut as well like blackpink

[Adama]

9 minutes ago, discreetinside said:

Speaking of the Y2k trend, the way almost every ifans are oblivious about the Kpop smashes that actually released in these Y2k era 

 

 

none of these girls have topped THEM 

 

especially Lee Jung Hyun, she’s a legend, she created a whole movement in SK, an ICON 

 

 

5 minutes ago, thirdward said:

BTS’ solos kinda flopped when we think about it 

BP members are definitely bigger than bts individually 

We still have to wait for the maknae line solos 

[Kwangya]

9 minutes ago, thirdward said:

BTS’ solos kinda flopped when we think about it 

BP members are definitely bigger than bts individually 

how sway? Jungkook had the biggest streaming year for a Korean soloist 

[discreetinside]

Okay what the hell is this like this is so campy I'm lowkey addicted to listen this song 

 

 

[Xalric]

 

Jeon Soyeon appearing of Fantasy Boys (season 2 of My Teenage Girl).

[thirdward]

21 minutes ago, Eternium said:

Aespa had their biggest year in digitals, their biggest year in Spotify/YouTube streams and their biggest year in physicals (Girls was the #1 female physical ever until Born Pink, is still the #1 female mini album ever and still the #1 physical for fourth Gen GGs). Yes, Girls wasn’t a massive digital smash - but Aespa supplemented it with sustained catalog interest and the biggest fourth Gen B-side, Illusion.

And where do you get that I’m altering the numbers? I run a receipts thread, sis. I’m posting exact numbers and you can go ahead and double check them, if you want. 
 

I think you girls need to let go of the idea that domestic digitals alone run everything. 600M digital points is equal to about 100M streams, the equivalent of about 67,000 albums. Now that girl groups are selling millions of albums, those digitals aren’t a massive deal just yet. Even with NewJeans’s record-breaking digital success, they still haven’t even hit 1.2M points (134k-ish album sales). That’s not to downplay them - just to show that domestic digitals don’t heavily outweigh physicals.

 

Top Girl Groups of 2022:

[collapse]1. BlackPink

2. IVE

3. ITZY

4. Aespa

5. TWICE

6. Red Velvet

7. (G)-IDLE

8. LE SSERAFIM

9. NMIXX

10. NewJeans[/collapse]

They’re both important. What these companies are doing is selling the rights for these luxury fashion brands to promote themselves using their idols. This is important because it means that the company no longer has to pay for some performance and red carpet outfits - a luxury fashion brand now takes all of that cost and in return, they get promotion because their work is showing up in media. 

 

The campaign is more about the idol doing a photoshoot and being the overall global face, but that doesn’t make the ambassador programs less important. Did you see red carpet fashion back in Gen 2? It was  

oh okay i see it now

being an ambassador is more important for the company and a campaign is more about the idol and it’s own popularity I guess

now I see why yg had brands for the girls at debut he didn’t want to pay anything  

 

[Sorecer]

People thinking newjennies won't be global 

 

 

[K$Ellie]

2 hours ago, Eternium said:

That’s the Circle (Gaon) yearly digital ranking after 52 weeks (this year has 53 weeks). The way you girls are so fixed on a narrative that you’ll claim someone is delusional for posting the Circle charts is laughable. And the fact that you had the nerve to insult my intelligence because an objective fact proved you wrong. You played yourself, babe  

You know that GOT is short for Girls On Top and like the first iconic feminist anthem (and one of SM’s biggest hits), right? The name is probably one of their most brilliant, after Oh!GG  

GOT is fine but girls on top the beat… idk

[thirdward]

14 minutes ago, Kwangya said:

how sway? Jungkook had the biggest streaming year for a Korean soloist 

a feature! 

[sourprint]

1 minute ago, Sorecer said:

People thinking newjennies won't be global 

 

 

they are gonna be i think ador should start promoting them in the us by 2024

[mokitsu]

KPOP Emergency?

 

 

[Dialamba]

18 minutes ago, Kwangya said:

how sway? Jungkook had the biggest streaming year for a Korean soloist 

Only JK is relevant I fear we need a solo HYBE is stupid. 

[GucciBang]

1 hour ago, Moon said:

No  Baby Monster is just another name for Blackpink before the girls rejected it because it was corny like along with Magnum. It's basically just the duality concept but switched Baby Monster instead of Black Pink, sweet/cool. I do believe they will do rnb since watered down y2k is the vibe now, thank you NewJennies.

 

Check the nameplate. 

 

I'm excited to see the old eldritch villain (YHS) struggle against the new sus machiavellian mastermind (MHJ) in January. Let's see if the old bog beast still has it in him, for girl groups at least, we saw the ordeal with Treasure already......  

 

 

Also Lisa is apparently close with and mentoring the thai trainee, so we are excited for mother Lalisa's progeny. 

 

I know about that ofc, I was there since pre-debut (yeah, I followed the girls since 2012 ) but a legit "insider" on twitter explained the concepts behind those names. Magnum being hiphop, PinkPunk about being experimental pop group or smthn, baby monster as explained previously. BP have undergone all those concepts predebut, they were basically like a test object for YG during their trainee days before he finally handed them to Teddy   and there's even this so called info about predebut BP which kinda confirmed the concept behind babymonster https://www.soompi.com/article/413754wpp/possible-information-revealed-regarding-ygs-new-girl-group

 

And in case you don't know, the 6 losers from Treasure were supposed to debut under the name ma6num  so I think YG's lazy ass just re-using those concepts for their trainees bc even those girls who participated in that chinese show that lisa was mentoring, they were also being introduced as baby monster

[MonsterNavy]

20 minutes ago, Kwangya said:

how sway? Jungkook had the biggest streaming year for a Korean soloist 

thank you charlie puth  

[Kwangya]

1 minute ago, thirdward said:

a feature! 

https://twitter.com/JE0NSKAY/status/1608131374359232513

 

all the songs he released this year did damage, let's not downplay now 

[RyuHinode]

5 minutes ago, mokitsu said:

KPOP Emergency?

 

 

 

CL's record aint safe

[thirdward]

all I can say is gonna luck for the new group

people stanning yet another yg group… I-

BP are kinda in a weird spot bc I feel like them being a kpop group is holding them back  and I doubt they care about melon gaon and stuff anymore (well maybe bc they didn’t let them go to awards shows)

[Sorecer]

8 minutes ago, sourprint said:

they are gonna be i think ador should start promoting them in the us by 2024

I think after mid 2023 probably in the summer but who knows they are doing numbers without trying 

[Eternium]

10 minutes ago, thirdward said:

oh okay i see it now

being an ambassador is more important for the company and a campaign is more about the idol and it’s own popularity I guess

now I see why yg had brands for the girls at debut he didn’t want to pay anything  

 

This is it exactly. It’s why the ambassador thing was hell for akgaes - the ambassador would get to look nice while the other members would wear cheap, unflattering clothes that the company could afford. It’s why Wonyoung and Yujin are always dressed nicely and the rest of IVE get leftovers and poorly sized clothing.

10 minutes ago, K$Ellie said:

GOT is fine but girls on top the beat… idk

It’s just GOT The Beat, which is a famous phrase. 

7 minutes ago, mokitsu said:

KPOP Emergency?

 

 

Just wait until the album details come out, sis.

 

What we really need in 2023 is for SM to get a U.S. distribution deal. For the love of God  

[Kwangya]

looking forward to the new YG group but tbh I hope their tracks don't sound like 2ne1 or BP rejects.

 

4th gen gg competition is going crazy, honestly. For a while itzy looked like they were going to be the next big thing, then Aespa blew past them, then Aespa lost a bit of ground to the Ive/LSRFM/NewJeans trifecta this year. NewJennies might be the trend at the moment, but it can all change in the blink of an eye. 

 

 

[thirdward]

the most important comeback will be aespa I mean it will actually feel like a comeback lmao