Sheep Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Dark Horse said: soshi* has the bigger legacy on the whole.. RV has no impact lbr. every company wants their own jennie tho BoA opened up kpop to Japan SES was one of the first huge girl idol groups in Korea f(x) had multiple year end hits and were a critical darling RV had a trinity of gargantuan hits aespa has Next Level, Savage, 2m+ physicals, sold out shows in Japan(not every group has that) under their belts already and still aren't even an album in. There were some flop duds in between but SM dominates this comparison sorry, and I'm one of the 5 remaining CL stans.
Luckitty Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 i don't think this new gg will flop unless they release unlistenable music ala nmixx
Pinter Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) Nnnnn not chikita made it, shes friend with gabriel prince who declined sm offer to join sm new boygroup so she is indinesia : Edited December 30, 2022 by Pinter
GucciBang Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 Just now, hallucinate said: plus they will have all eyes on them, i don’t think they will flop like some users are expecting them to There's no way they will flop. They will have the thai public on hand but the expectation for them is on the roof. They need a PAK debut because BP did it and anything lower will be considered a flop because that's how kpop brain works lol Anyway YG is either setting the new girl group up with that release date considering NewJennies are pretty much a phenomenon in korea atm or they are 100% confident and equipped
Xalric Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 I could see a Rosé x KSY stage Or Jennie pulling of Mino's Fiancé.
Luckitty Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 blackpink were originally supposed to debut with 7-9 members, so maybe the new gg will debut with bp's initial concept which was a mix of snsd and 2ne1
Harrier Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 These arguments are messy and polarised and I agree with none of you - Red Velvet have been extremely successful and have managed to outlast the rest of 3rd generation sans Blackpink. This shelved narrative is very outdated, 2020 vibes - SNSD mothers etc. Their impact on the industry is unmatched. However its delusional to say that BP have not surpassed them in raw worldwide success - Jennie may not yet have a solo career but she is clearly the biggest idol of 3rd generation (thus far) - Blackpink are huge, if you deny that reality you just look like a sore loser I fear Can y'all try and do this stanning without these absurdly polarised, stubborn narratives?
Pluto6 Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) The whole SM company feels like 1 group, kinda like NCT where all the idols under the company are rotating around in different units Edited December 30, 2022 by Pluto2022
Blade Runner Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) Baemon is the name of the new group? If it is indeed that, they won't even have 1% of the Blackpink's success in the West. For sure. Sounds corny as hell. Add it to the pile of previous girl/boy group flops. Edited December 30, 2022 by Blade Runner
GucciBang Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Luckitty said: blackpink were originally supposed to debut with 7-9 members, so maybe the new gg will debut with bp's initial concept which was a mix of snsd and 2ne1 Apparently the Baby Monster concept are dual concepts with Baby which is similar to finkl/babyvox and Monster is similar to TLC, it's why YG said before that the new girl group will have rnb music and that they are like BigMama as they are trained is soul singing , we will see if they stick to that or not soon
Harrier Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 Just now, Blade Runner said: Baemon is the name of the new group? If it is indeed that, they won't even have 1% of the Blackpink's success in the West. For sure. Sounds corny as hell. Add it to the pile of previous girl/boy group flops. It's their like working title name they've had for many years as trainees. I suppose it could be be their name but I would be surprised. We will find out soon enough
Sheep Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Harrier said: However its delusional to say that BP have not surpassed them in raw worldwide success Not in raw sales. Barely in touring. They're bigger in markets where kpop is barely a factor. This argument is like pointing to aespa's US gigs as a sign that they're bigger than Red Velvet. SEA is the only market where Black Pink has an impressive lead over other GGs 6 minutes ago, Harrier said: - Jennie may not yet have a solo career but she is clearly the biggest idol of 3rd generation (thus far) Only for females, and only because the biggest girl group of that generation wasn't allowed to have solo careers until they started to decline. 7 minutes ago, Harrier said: - Blackpink are huge, if you deny that reality you just look like a sore loser I fear nobody ever claimed otherwise
Luckitty Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 1 minute ago, GucciBang said: Apparently the Baby Monster concept are dual concepts with Baby which is similar to finkl/babyvox and Monster is similar to TLC, it's why YG said before that the new girl group will have rnb music and that they are like BigMama as they are trained is soul singing , we will see if they stick to that or not soon i didn't know about that, that would be interesting
hallucinate Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Blade Runner said: Baemon is the name of the new group? If it is indeed that, they won't even have 1% of the Blackpink's success in the West. For sure. Sounds corny as hell. Add it to the pile of previous girl/boy group flops. the name is baby monster which is terrible imo nnn people use baemon for short
Sorecer Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 People really think they will Hold #1 everywhere? I mean they might for like less than a day and later newjennies will stomp them the day after But still dittos popularity is not dying out at all so even a debut at #1 will be hard
moxcy Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 29 minutes ago, Century said: Definitely not in touring, not in albums, not in digitals. Maybe Streaming but even that becomes muddy once you start counting streams on Korean and Chinese services. what is this comparison? they have less tours, less albums and less singles and even then they clear. compare them the right way and you know BP does run circles but you don't wanna do that
Mr. Blue_Shirt Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 Wait.. is iKON going re-debuting in the new label without having to change their name? So YG letting that copyright name go as well?
Sheep Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, moxcy said: what is this comparison? they have less tours, less albums and less singles and even then they clear. compare them the right way and you know BP does run circles but you don't wanna do that Compare them what right way? Ignoring career total sales or tours? Nobody would say a one or two album act from the west shits on a legend who topped charts for 15 straight years and garnered by far the most sales in their category. Edited December 30, 2022 by Century
Xalric Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, GucciBang said: Apparently the Baby Monster concept are dual concepts with Baby which is similar to finkl/babyvox and Monster is similar to TLC, it's why YG said before that the new girl group will have rnb music and that they are like BigMama as they are trained is soul singing , we will see if they stick to that or not soon
Pluto6 Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) Praying and manifesting The girl in the middle kinda resembles Garam Edited December 30, 2022 by Pluto2022
Luckitty Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pinter said: Plus garam and jinni lol... how do yg stans know so much about these trainees reminds me when they knew so much about bp before debut including their names, nicknames and where they're from they should work for the fbi
Pluto6 Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dark Horse said: the way im going to be the next Mel if this is true.. Me too I fear
Luckitty Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 yg are crazy but i don't think they're crazy enough to debut garam
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