Zack Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, rapperjennie said: maybe not all hope is lost for WAYV still not comparable at ALL to the other units, don't 127 and Dream sell 1M first day? atleast they're not jobless anymore To be frank these sales so far are not great for SM's standards in general. For example, SEULGI alone sold more on the 1st day than this. But it's just the 1st day so the 1st week might be better overall. But when you sit it next to other NCT units, it's tragic. I feel like WayV could be in danger to get shelved, because the sales are low, the songs aren't taking off, there's scandals and they aren't gaining traction in China.
Ghiles Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 This it girl stays booked it’s what she deserves
Narima Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 I hope their first full album is coming next
Mel. Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 The “YouTube is dead” discourse is funny to me and it’s only being said because your favs don’t get the views and/or depend on thier companies to buy them BLACKPINK is doing just fine.
rapperjennie Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 23 minutes ago, Zack said: To be frank these sales so far are not great for SM's standards in general. For example, SEULGI alone sold more on the 1st day than this. But it's just the 1st day so the 1st week might be better overall. But when you sit it next to other NCT units, it's tragic. I feel like WayV could be in danger to get shelved, because the sales are low, the songs aren't taking off, there's scandals and they aren't gaining traction in China. I doubt 1st week will be anything extraordinary, yeah I agree SM just went very wrong with trying to create a Chinese NCT unit. And it was made worse with this hiatus and member scandals I'm not too sure how many members will decide to renew contracts next year(?) anyways
illia Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 how did POPPY do in Japan? or what do I search to find this out?
Mel. Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, rapperjennie said: I doubt 1st week will be anything extraordinary, yeah I agree SM just went very wrong with trying to create a Chinese NCT unit. And it was made worse with this hiatus and member scandals I'm not too sure how many members will decide to renew contracts next year(?) anyways Disband WAYV and put Ten in NCT 127 and that’ll right the wrongs he deserves better.
DelRey Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 44 minutes ago, rapperjennie said: maybe not all hope is lost for WAYV still not comparable at ALL to the other units, don't 127 and Dream sell 1M first day? atleast they're not jobless anymore I think the best day for an nct unit is like 750k WayV is a chinese unit and we know koreans are very racist, actually I'm surprised they sell this amount in the first place. SM should make WayV an International Unit with all english songs, they have nice music and all the guys are good looking.
Green Tea Is Green Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Flomik said: how did POPPY do in Japan? or what do I search to find this out? Tanked into oblivion, it got to #99 in the hot100 thanks to the physicals (8k) but the streaming numbers were nonexistent
illia Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Green Tea Is Green said: Tanked into oblivion, it got to #99 in the hot100 thanks to the physicals (8k) but the streaming numbers were nonexistent oh hopefuly second time's a charm
discreetinside Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, PowerGarlic said: The only sub unit we need from IVE is Sistar19 2.0 with WONyoung(The new Hyolyn) and Reigend 47 minutes ago, Adama said: Good for him ! Her voice in the After like encores or her voice in the Pretty girls cover show why she don’t have many lines . She’s still a good dancer Ma boy 2023 version You forgot these gems . She’s my 2nd fav singer in IVE bc I love her tone. It’s unfair that they are labeled as least talented just bc they aren’t a dance group. They still can sing better than some groups and their dance line is not that bad. It’s just starship who decided to market them this way… That's if Wonyoung can even manage to serve quarter of Hyolyn vocal talent. Obviously IVE are way behind their seniors Sistar when it comes to vocals talent but Liz, Yujin and Rei are the best shot to serve vocals if SS want to form subunit that focus on vocal performance.
fauxtography Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Green Tea Is Green said: Tanked into oblivion, it got to #99 in the hot100 thanks to the physicals (8k) but the streaming numbers were nonexistent StayC is blonde and gone
Green Tea Is Green Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, fauxtography said: StayC is blonde and gone the other 4th gen ggs are doing too well but to be fair their korean tracks did just as bad so its not surprising, they got unlucky, I fear
discreetinside Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 Re: YouTube are dead How was YouTube (Music) are dead when the userbase was increased in Korea over the time and actually have higher growth than Spotify and AM Korea to the point that Instiz add YouTube chart on their PAK chart on March 2022 while Spotify and AM are yet to do so despite Instiz was announced the intention to include the 3 global music streaming platform back in 2021.
Pluto6 Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) SM need to remove Mark and Haechan from NCT 127 and let them stay in NCT DREAM only, cause it's unfair that they get so much exposure, and it also feels like they don't belong to any unit at the same time. Each dynamic of each unit would also change and feel stronger since ever member now belongs to 1 unit only instead of having some members being in multiple groups like Mark and Haechan. And then have Shotaro and Sungchan debut with 5 new members in the final NCT unit and then stop adding new members completely after that. This way they have 28 NCT members with 4 units and 7 permanent members in each unit. Then SM can finally move on to a new boy group. Edited December 28, 2022 by Pluto2022
Green Tea Is Green Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, discreetinside said: Re: YouTube are dead How was YouTube (Music) are dead when the userbase was increased in Korea over the time and actually have higher growth than Spotify and AM Korea to the point that Instiz add YouTube chart on their PAK chart on March 2022 while Spotify and AM are yet to do so despite Instiz was announced the intention to include the 3 global music streaming platform back in 2021. That's just in korea though, the overall YT views have dropped And in regards of the spotify growth, it hasn't been all that because its too expensive there thanks to kakao (basically the biggest music distributor in Korea) being a ***** and not wanting melon to die They've recently done a 4-months-for-free promo to try and grab new people, and based on newjeans' streaming #s, it worked, but will they stick around to pay for it after...
OrgVisual Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, Green Tea Is Green said: That's just in korea though, the overall YT views have dropped And in regards of the spotify growth, it hasn't been all that because its too expensive there thanks to kakao (basically the biggest music distributor in Korea) being a ***** and not wanting melon to die They've recently done a 4-months-for-free promo to try and grab new people, and based on newjeans' streaming #s, it worked, but will they stick around to pay for it after... Spotify has def been growing in SEA but also most of the fandoms have shifted their mass streaming machines to Spotify instead of Youtube since it's a cooler achievement these days
Dialamba Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 48 minutes ago, Green Tea Is Green said: Tanked into oblivion, it got to #99 in the hot100 thanks to the physicals (8k) but the streaming numbers were nonexistent We all know it would’ve been a hit if it was released by twice. 43 minutes ago, discreetinside said: That's if Wonyoung can even manage to serve quarter of Hyolyn vocal talent. Obviously IVE are way behind their seniors Sistar when it comes to vocals talent but Liz, Yujin and Rei are the best shot to serve vocals if SS want to form subunit that focus on vocal performance. Right I rather a sub unit with only Rei and Liz but I don’t think they would smash without WY or Yujin
Green Tea Is Green Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, Sept said: Spotify has def been growing in SEA but also most of the fandoms have shifted their mass streaming machines to Spotify instead of Youtube since it's a cooler achievement these days Yeah, some seem to still work just as hard on the youtube mass streaming tho, credit where it's due 5 minutes ago, Dialamba said: We all know it would’ve been a hit if it was released by twice. Yeah, the fact o.o and dice didn't fully bomb says enough about their name power BEP should do some mediaplay with them, they gave us too many good stuff, they're allowed!
Sorecer Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 the hoodies are so nice I love the brown one
Zack Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Mel. said: Disband WAYV and put Ten in NCT 127 and that’ll right the wrongs he deserves better. Ten really should have been in 127 from the start. Especially in place of Jungwoo who is nowhere near as talented as Ten. 1 hour ago, rapperjennie said: I doubt 1st week will be anything extraordinary, yeah I agree SM just went very wrong with trying to create a Chinese NCT unit. And it was made worse with this hiatus and member scandals I'm not too sure how many members will decide to renew contracts next year(?) anyways I believe Winwin's contract may be up for renewal next year (2023 will be 7 years since debut) but we don't know whether NCT signed 7+3 year contracts. We know Red Velvet did. But contract laws in Korea changed sometime in 2014. The same may be true for Kun, however SM seems to have reversed his debut in NCT U in 2016 and only count his debut from 2018. So idk it's messy. Some of the issues with WayV aren't SM's fault (like political issues) but they got many things wrong. 3 hours ago, Red Velvet said: Step Back turned into one of the best songs released this year. Ready to Stamp on it It really did. Step Back is one of my most played songs this year. I'm ready for their dominatrix moment with Stamp On IT
sunmimi imfurst Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 8 hours ago, Green Tea Is Green said: This is so cute, happy birthday queen Wendy’s wig shifted yesterday
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