C-Amber Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, Adama said: Maybe he doesn’t want to do promotions? He can release he's music through any label without promoting if he want, no need to sign with underground label for that.
Hazy Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 1 hour ago, DelRey said: The fake new jeans stans are giving YG stan vibes 10 minutes ago, DelRey said: Sheep, are we gonna fill the ktrl endlist with SM acts only? Let's make Forever 1 the number #1 song those two posts on one page are sending me
discreetinside Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: You spilled, cause I will never understand why YG had TREASURE in the dungeon for the entirety of 2021, when they had just debuted in August 2020 This is why TREASURE are so behind, cause the other bgs were able to release and secure their fandoms, while TREASURE was being in the dungeon for their entire rookie year (13 months) YG truly have bad history when it comes to these. This even happened back on Winner and iKon where they spend around 1 year on the dungeon during their rookie days Let's talk about Treasure because their survival show was aired in November 2018 - January 2019 and they spend like over a year to debut the group. I mean YG have a bad year in 2019 but still they take this long to actually debut Treasure was not a good look.
Eternium Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 NewJeans should wait until May or June for their next mini-album after this. They’re on the cusp of having the most successful first year ever in K-pop and they shouldn’t waste it. They have digitals in the bag and Spotify streams, too. But they need a second comeback to compete with IVE’s numbers. New Jeans - 700k+ ELEVEN - 439,976 LOVE DIVE - 837,781 After LIKE - 1,627,404
DelRey Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hazy said: those two posts on one page are sending me Drag me
Dialamba Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 Not even the real Nj Stans who constantly fight with dives are obsessed about who’s bigger between Ive and NJ. Like who cares both are doing well and there isn’t any 4th GEn LeAders.
Gaia Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 Frequent # of comebacks affecting the group depends on how they're promoted. TWICE suffered because a lot of their comebacks had the same concept and music style. Thus, it was easy to get bored of them as a group. Same with GFriend. I can definitely see IVE and NJ experiencing the same fate with their current promotion tactics. IVE are SMASHING but they're doing it with the most generic music possible. They're just lucky they have what SISTAR didn't, an actual IT girl because Dasom never really became one. They need more of an identity than Wonyoung ft. the rest with generic bops. It works for now but won't in a few years. NJ give very nostalgic vibes and its refreshing. But in 2 years, if this is still their concept I guarantee people will have moved on. It'll get old after 1-2 years of the "Look how Y2K we are!!" aespa is suffering a different fate. No enough comebacks and even then, not enough variability between comebacks. The concept itself is different from other groups, but the concepts between comebacks is too similar. 4 songs now about Black mamba, naevis, kwangya, etc. and the public is already tired. After 2 years, aespa should have had around 5 comebacks by now. But they've only had 3 of the same concept. Both are equally bad in different ways. At the end of the day, you need to show some variability to have a long lasting career. There's no 4th gen group so far really showing versatility. They're all still young groups though who have time to switch things up.
OrgVisual Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 50 minutes ago, Billionaire said: The real tea is that there is no "clear 4th gen leader" because just last year you all were saying aespa were the definitive #1 and now they're not even top5 according to some users here. Like what's gonna happen if NewJeans or IVE flop or underperform with their next comeback Mte. Every few months they claim a different group as a "leader". The moment they flop, they will abandon them just like STAYC
Hazy Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 Just now, Dialamba said: Not even the real Nj Stans who constantly fight with dives are obsessed about who’s bigger between Ive and NJ. Like who cares both are doing well and there isn’t any 4th GEn LeAders. yeah, it’s pointless to name any group like that, they are pretty on par and are chasing one another good for us gg stans! there is no clear winner as of now and with groups like LSRFM, NMIXX and aespa it’s really hard to tell which group will finish on top next comeback of course I will keep on calling NJ BP’s successors, NewJennies, the revolution and so on, but that comes from my bias towards both groups
discreetinside Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dialamba said: Not even the real Nj Stans who constantly fight with dives are obsessed about who’s bigger between Ive and NJ. Like who cares both are doing well and there isn’t any 4th GEn LeAders. Yeah the Bunnies (NJ stans) are not fighting with Dives all the times. In fact they're complement with each other whenever their faves getting achievements.
discreetinside Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 Btw is Oysters or Hydras the official Le Sserafim stans name? I mean the 2022 monster gg rookies have official stan names like Dives (IVE) and Bunnies (NewJeans)
Hazy Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, discreetinside said: Btw is Oysters or Hydras the official Le Sserafim stans name? I mean the 2022 monster gg rookies have official stan names like Dives (IVE) and Bunnies (NewJeans) Fearnot I believe
Pluto6 Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, Gaia said: There's no 4th gen group so far really showing versatility. GIDLE sweetie.... This is what I meant, when I said that that no one in here pays attention to GIDLE
Eternium Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, Dialamba said: Not even the real Nj Stans who constantly fight with dives are obsessed about who’s bigger between Ive and NJ. Like who cares both are doing well and there isn’t any 4th GEn LeAders. It’s less of a “___ vs. ___” and more of a “how high can the record constantly be set.” For those of us who knew K-pop during the Korean music market crash, it’s incredible to see. There was a time where SNSD were the saviors of female K-pop because they got an album over 100k sales. Now IVE are doing 2.9M pure sales and 1.4B+ digitals in just their debut year (setting an all-time record) and we have another girl group threatening to do even better. This is the biggest win since SJJD and BP broke the 1M barrier for female groups
Eternium Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Pluto2022 said: GIDLE sweetie.... This is what I meant, when I said that that no one in here pays attention to GIDLE The thread token-stanned them, too, back in the day when they were the top streaming force and served amazing music and performances on Queendom. But they abandoned IDLE when OMG underperformed and then HWAA tanked after Soojin’s departure. They’re still the most streamed fourth Gen girl group and they’ll hold onto that until 2024 at least (unless ITZY gets a true smash).
Adama Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 17 minutes ago, C-Amber said: He can release he's music through any label without promoting if he want, no need to sign with underground label for that. Lol since when TBL is an underground label? Somi have more budget than a lot of Kpop gg 29 minutes ago, Dialamba said: In 2019 they got only 2 cb. Fancy smashed FS not. But M&M was their longest hiatus and would have been a big hit if it was a great song. RV had 3 cb in 2019, 3 flops in a row and then they cb with psycho. As long you don’t pull 4 cb in a year it doesn’t affect a group. NJ is a new group they need to be everywhere. But how many cb they had between CH and Fancy ? If I’m not mistaken CU April 2016 TT October 2016 (6 months gap, which is very reasonable) Knock knock February 2017 (4 months gap) Signal May 2017 (2 months gap ) Likey in October 2017 (5 months gap) Hearts shaker in December 2017 (1 month gap ) What is love April 2018 (4 months gap) Dance the night away July 2018 (3 months gap ) Yes or yes November 2018 (4 months gap) Fancy April 2019 (5 months gap) Feel special September 2019 (5 months gap) Then they finally started to slowed down …
Xalric Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Eternium said: The 2013 quote is literally him talking about trying to cut down BP’s members and not being able to decide between 5 or 3, babe. Also, Jisoo sounds just like Seohyun. She doesn’t have the same strength, but it’s almost as uncanny as Rose’s similarity to Park Bom. And I think you’re taking this as shade but you know I’m the first to admit when my faves are influenced (SNSD and S.E.S., 4Minute and 2NE1) or are a clone group (Red Velvet and f(x), (G)-IDLE and 4Minute). Sis, it definitely influenced both groups. But Team A was clearly who he was talking about - Jennie’s 1996, Jisoo’s 1995 and Rosé and Lisa are 1997. There’s no way YG was planning on debuting 10 year old Denise in 2011, let alone apologizing for the late delay in 2013. Also, Seugnri’s scandal was like 6 years after the second quote. Denise signed with YG in 2016. And wasn’t Moon Sua a leftover trainee from BP? Sua was never in BP line up she went from Future 2ne1 with to team B with never be in BP. The 2 almost BP girls are Miyeon (GI-Dle) & Jinny Park (Secret Number)
Adama Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 18 minutes ago, discreetinside said: Yeah the Bunnies (NJ stans) are not fighting with Dives all the times. In fact they're complement with each other whenever their faves getting achievements. Not sure, recently I’m seing a lot of fights between them on twitter. But DIVEs #1 enemy are clearly Fearnots! These 2 fandoms keep fighting . Probably bc Sakura and Wy fans hate each others and bc these 2 groups image are the total opposite ?
C-Amber Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, Adama said: Lol since when TBL is an underground label? Somi have more budget than a lot of Kpop gg … They almost the same as underground label. They barely can give Somi any music and when they did after years of absence they give her Blackpink rejected songs and bad promotions. As well when a top artists like zion.t sign with them they literally ruined him and now serving OUT in he's songs. They underground bad agency with outdated music.
Pluto6 Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Eternium said: The thread token-stanned them, too, back in the day when they were the top streaming force and served amazing music and performances on Queendom. But they abandoned IDLE when OMG underperformed and then HWAA tanked after Soojin’s departure. They’re still the most streamed fourth Gen girl group and they’ll hold onto that until 2024 at least (unless ITZY gets a true smash). GIDLE were just as big as IVE and NewJeans this year, the difference is that GIDLE are not rookies, so people might not pay attention to them as much as newly debuted groups. Though they have insane longevity compared to their 4th gen peers who debuted around 2018-2020, and just last year nobody would've thought that GIDLE would be able to do better than both ITZY and aespa in 2022, myself included GIDLE, NewJeans & IVE were the 3 biggest 4th gen ggs this year and all 3 of them had 2 smashes each this year that are all equally big GIDLE = Tomboy - Nxde IVE = Love Dive - After Like NewJeans = Attention - Hybe Boy Honorable mention: LE SSERAFIM = Fearless - Antifragile Edited December 26, 2022 by Pluto2022
Eternium Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: GIDLE were just as big as IVE and NewJeans this year, the difference is that GIDLE are not rookies, so people might not pay attention to them as much as newly debuted groups. Though they have insane longevity compared to their 4th gen peers who debuted around 2018-2020, and just last year nobody would've thought that GIDLE would be able to do better than both ITZY and aespa in 2022, myself included GIDLE, NewJeans & IVE were the 3 biggest 4th gen ggs this year and all 3 of them had 2 smashes each this year that are all equally big GIDLE = Tomboy - Nxde IVE = Love Dive - After Like NewJeans = Attention - Hybe Boy Honorable mention: LE SSERAFIM = Fearless - Antifragile No they weren’t. I NEVER DIE did 250k and I love did 800k. I’ll check digitals, but I think (G)-IDLE was #2 for the year after IVE. Physicals: 1. BlackPink 2. IVE (will probably be #1 next week) 3. Red Velvet 4. ITZY (may surpass RV depending on RV’s SM minis shipping and ITZY’s special editions) 5. Aespa 6. TWICE 7. Le Sserafim 8. (G)-IDLE 9. NMIXX 10. Kep1er
Hazy Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 watching ADOR christmas celebration is so…. it’s clearly visible that NewJeans is MHJ’s dream project
Witnessed ET Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pluto2022 said: GIDLE sweetie.... This is what I meant, when I said that that no one in here pays attention to GIDLE You spilled i fear. 1 hour ago, Eternium said: The thread token-stanned them, too, back in the day when they were the top streaming force and served amazing music and performances on Queendom. But they abandoned IDLE when OMG underperformed and then HWAA tanked after Soojin’s departure. They’re still the most streamed fourth Gen girl group and they’ll hold onto that until 2024 at least (unless ITZY gets a true smash). Yeah the way people in here ignore GIDLE whenever they’re talking about 4th gen ggs’ talent, quality music, versatility etc. Because they KNOW that IDLE is better than their faves in all of those aspects Edited December 26, 2022 by Witnessed ET
BTS Posted December 26, 2022 Posted December 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Gaia said: It's always hilarious to me when people make up "quotes" to make dumb posts Who said NJ was going to flop their next comeback Then what do you think all those “NewJeans are gonna end up like ITZY” comparisons we’re implying?
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