fan base K-Pop Thread: 2022 Archive

[Rhyme]

31 minutes ago, lauvender said:

that user acting obtuse and then discrediting MHJ… it’s giving hater energy and NewJeans anti fr.

 

anyone can see NewJeans didnt do their concept because of freaking Dua Lipa or Doja Cat or Twice & Taeyeon like they aren’t even similar

I'm telling you it's been a trend that was visible in fashion and music way before Newjeans debuted and was already been used by acts like Nayeon and JYP had already been digging at trends that newjeans is also using. I know Talk that Talk came out after Newjeans but only by two weeks so there was no time for TWICE to copy. Just look at TWICE's outfits from that era and tell me, you can't see the similarities with newjeans fashion.

[mokitsu]

3 hours ago, levi_valvi said:

@mokitsu and I been saying 

whew i love when WOMEN serve sex

Edited December 25, 2022 by mokitsu

[dlwlrma]

7 minutes ago, Butters said:

What makes that different from this? 

a big company behind them so the public can pay any attention  NJ aesthetic looks much more polish too 
im not a newjennie stan btw, before any accusation 

 

[Kwangya]

PAKjeans It doesn't feel like their company is just tossing out anything to see what sticks, there is a strong creative direction to their music/visuals.

 

I also love how simple and melodic their songs are. A much needed break from bombastic and overproduced kpop that we've been hearing lately. Seriously, a lot of recent songs I've heard sound engineered to make your ears bleed (sorry Itzy, but Cheshire was not it).

 

Hopefully kpop companies take note that sometimes what the public needs isn't ear-splitting high notes, shoehorned rap verses, or busy instrumentals that sound like 3 songs playing over each other. Sometimes we just need good vibes and crooning.

[Billionaire]

Whenever people act like NJ brought something new to the scene I always think of the YG stans that were saying that the idols under that company "weren't like other idols" and what not. I'm just not seeing it. The Ditto MV is very reminiscent of older music videos such as Into The New World, Gfriend's early works, etc, imo so why are we acting like it's something new. Not to mention the amount of smaller girl groups that have had similar songs and concepts and were paid dust 

[BigBangStan]

There have been ggs with Y2K concepts before NewJeans but they did the best interpretation of the concept 

Edited December 25, 2022 by BigBangStan

[Companion]

Yall stop talkin about who started the damn trend just enjoy the vibes and visuals  It is clear NJ isnt the starters but they are executing it a lot better than other artists. Maybe because their whole concept is about being the bridge between past and present (?) Idk. They dont use Y2K just for a photoshoot or a comeback theme.

 

And it feels fresh cuz K-Pop visuals seen as this crazy huge sets, extreme lighting and full of contrast color palette for 3 generations. And what new jeans doing is give a more natural, chill feeling for the music and visuals. It is not hard to get it. Everyone think they are bringing something fresh so dont try to decline it  

 

But most of their freshess comes from their young age tbh if a 3rg gen group does the exact same things it wouldnt considered that fresh.

Edited December 25, 2022 by Companion

[rapperjennie]

9 hours ago, Adama said:

Lmfao The lyrics ???? Her dad eat what? 

 

 

Somi cannot be serious, this song is so aggressive for no reason too nnn give it a BREAK it's Christmas 

[Green Tea Is Green]

I feel like the way newjeans is marketed is what makes them fresh to people, not really the concept, and musically their genres aren't too overdone in kpop as well especially in title tracks, that being said, if I wanted that style of music I'd personally just listen to k-indie artists or western artists that explore those genres much better 

 

I hate how kpop went from doing too much with the noisy and ''experimental'' trend to barely doing anything this year, it's like all groups, old and new, just decided to put out mid-sounding songs that are okay at most... at first I thought it was a 4th gen ggs thing but the 3rd gen ggs were no better 

[dlwlrma]

I'm not sure what is the purpose of the thread if any grey between black and white is rejected

"This is 100% that is 100% incorrect"
"My favs are everything yours are nothing"
It's how works this thread overall 

No space for any discussion, not a surprise is such a flop nowadays 

Edited December 25, 2022 by dlwlrma

[Adama]

Congratulations to MHJ from taking inspiration from an aesthetic that is trendy since last year on every  fashion magazines.

 

I can’t stand her ever since she put that letter, acting like a poor victim despite being very creepy and having disgusting pictures and arts of teenage girls in her living room. That woman shouldn’t be around children, especially after the creepy Shinee teasers she directed and the cookie lyrics. I know someday, New jeans will do a Lolita concept. 
 

The fact that some of y’all call her a genius… 

 

 

Edited December 25, 2022 by Adama

[Tomek]

29 minutes ago, Rhyme said:

Not this again. Newjeans did not make Y2k concept popular. Everyone from Doja Cat to Dua Lipa to TWICE/Nayeon had been doing Y2K because it was already hugely popular. Doja Cat's producer is even named y2K. 

 

Min Heejin just took a hugely trendy concept and fooled teenagers/gullible adults into thinking it's fresh because a lot of people will consider a trend new when you put kids in it rather than industry veterans like TWICE/Taeyeon/Sunmi/etc.

What does this even mean? 
What is Dua Lipa even doing in this conversation, she's only integrating 2000's fashion into her image. Besides, it's a completly different industry. You should've said Normani. 

[Tomek]

There's a HUGE difference in doing a concept and turning it into a trend. Was Mariah Carey the first pop artist to ever feature a rapper?

 

Throwback influences are everywhere in K-pop:

Uh Oh and Pink Venom to late 90's hip-hop.

Automatic and Dreams Come True to late 90's rnb.

Weekend to 80's city pop. It's a common thing in music.

 

But it's crazy how all of those songs are being lumped together to create a narrative. They're not even inspired by the same time period.

None of those songs integrate the distinct element found in 2000's mainstream music: contemporary rnb and it's aesthetics.

Newjeans was the first group to mix that with K-pop and and get a #1 SMASH. That's how you create a trend.

 

And if you don't remember anything from their release, I'll remind you how it was highly praised for being fresh, which is something hard to do in K-pop, an industry that has tried everything under the sun.

 

[Tomek]

41 minutes ago, Rhyme said:

I'm telling you it's been a trend that was visible in fashion and music way before Newjeans debuted and was already been used by acts like Nayeon and JYP had already been digging at trends that newjeans is also using. I know Talk that Talk came out after Newjeans but only by two weeks so there was no time for TWICE to copy. Just look at TWICE's outfits from that era and tell me, you can't see the similarities with newjeans fashion.

Do you lack critical thinking? Talk That Talk, are you serious?
I wouldn't have wasted my time if I knew you were just a troll.

 

30 minutes ago, Billionaire said:

Whenever people act like NJ brought something new to the scene I always think of the YG stans that were saying that the idols under that company "weren't like other idols" and what not. I'm just not seeing it. The Ditto MV is very reminiscent of older music videos such as Into The New World, Gfriend's early works, etc, imo so why are we acting like it's something new. Not to mention the amount of smaller girl groups that have had similar songs and concepts and were paid dust 

How does Gfriend's older work negates the fact that Newjeans is the first group to achieve two PAKs with a 2000's inspired sound?

Adele single-handedly ended the EDM era and started the ballad trend that happened in 2012. Did Adele have to invent ballad music?

[State of Grace.]

1 hour ago, Rhyme said:

Wow, Min Heejin opened the Heaven by Marc Jacobs instagram page. How genius and new.

 

 

the girls barely have one mini out and yall are already crediting them for bringing back the Y2K trend, puhleaaaase

 

Ditto finally got me into NJ and I like how different it is from what other 4th gen groups are serving but lets cut the pretentiousness

[Tomek]

51 minutes ago, Sept said:

Y2k has been popular IN KOREA since a year ago, from fashion to lifestyle to reataurant and bar concepts etc. Why are NJ fans acting like their fav created something new?

 

Fashion and restaurants =/= Music

[Adama]

5 minutes ago, Tomek said:

There's a HUGE difference in doing a concept and turning it into a trend. Was Mariah Carey the first pop artist to ever feature a rapper?

 

Throwback influences are everywhere in K-pop:

Uh Oh and Pink Venom to late 90's hip-hop.

Automatic and Dreams Come True to late 90's rnb.

Weekend to 80's city pop. It's a common thing in music.

 

But it's crazy how all of those songs are being lumped together to create a narrative. They're not even inspired by the same time period.

None of those songs integrate the distinct element found in 2000's mainstream music: contemporary rnb and it's aesthetics.

Newjeans was the first group to mix that with K-pop and and get a #1 SMASH. That's how you create a trend.

 

And if you don't remember anything from their release, I'll remind you how it was highly praised for being fresh, which is something hard to do in K-pop, an industry that has tried everything under the sun.

 

NJ is on trend but that doesn’t mean the sound that they do is going to be the new trend in Kpop? 
 

 

[OrgVisual]

4 minutes ago, Tomek said:

Fashion and restaurants =/= Music

Ppl alread pointed out that it has been prominent in music for a long while so I don't need to repeat that

[Dialamba]

Nj Stans are concerning. You can’t say they’re popularizing something which is already popular.

And unless NJ is birthing “Y2K GG” they aren’t trendsetters.  

[Cotton]

It’s crazy how NewJeans stans watched pretty much every girl group + soloists use the y2k concept and wear y2k fashion for the last 2/3 years and now want y2k to be boiled down to NewJeans just bc they had the most success with the concept. 

[thirdward]

6 minutes ago, PowerGarlic said:

You guys had been saying that NewJeans won’t ever top their debut and this comeback was gonna be a bomb ever since they washed your 4th gen faves  Im sorry but I hope that someday you can cope with the fact that MHJ and ADOR are here to stay and put other companies to REST

no way anyone said nj was going to bomb next comeback 

no one here actually hates that group so there’s no point going hard defending them

aespa had way more haters the minute they debuted  

[Adama]

Lily is really the best singer of the 4th gen. Too bad her voice is waisted on awful tracks 

 

 

[State of Grace.]

4 minutes ago, Tomek said:

 

How does Gfriend's older work negates the fact that Newjeans is the first group to achieve two PAKs with a 2000's inspired sound?

Adele single-handedly ended the EDM era and started the ballad trend that happened in 2012. Did Adele have to invent ballad music?

Not NJ being compared to Adele now  Adele was always positioned as an anti-pop star. 21 stood out and smashed in an era of Gaga/Rihanna/Katy/Kesha etc and 25 came after Taylor's mega domination with the Big Pop Era 1989. She was part of that music shift towards ballady songs but she didn't "end" the EDM era because we had several EDM smashes after that.

 

Sure NewJennies aren't serving noise/girlcrush/cutesy & girly concepts, but that does not necessarily mean that they are the ones who started this chill Y2K/old-school pop/RnB trend in music. They are not popularizing an already existing and popular trend.

 

A real example of setting/popularizing a trend would be 2NE1 with Girlcrush before BLACKPINK made it a thing again and took it to a whole new level.

[State of Grace.]

The day IVE/LSFM/NJ have their first proper flop or underperformance will be a kii

 

[Xalric]

5 minutes ago, Adama said:

Lily is really the best singer of the 4th gen. Too bad her voice is waisted on awful tracks 

 

 

She's probably battling against Pink Fantasy's Yechan