DelRey Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 (edited) Talent, Beauty and Success Its 1,480,000 already Edited December 23, 2022 by DelRey
Axel. Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 On 12/22/2022 at 3:38 PM, Pluto2022 said: The competition in 4th gen is insane These are the top 4th gen girl groups (not in order) - (G)I-DLE - NewJeans - LE SSERAFIM - IVE - aespa - ITZY - NMIXX These 7 ggs are the biggest 4th girl groups and they all have potential to overtake each other at any moment (yes, including NMIXX) 4th gen is way more competitive compared to 3rd gen where the order was very clear with it being BP, TWICE, RV, Mamamoo, Gfriend in that order. STAYC > NMIXX
Eternium Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 On 12/22/2022 at 8:38 AM, Pluto2022 said: The competition in 4th gen is insane These are the top 4th gen girl groups (not in order) - (G)I-DLE - NewJeans - LE SSERAFIM - IVE - aespa - ITZY - NMIXX Right now it’s: 1. ITZY 2. IVE 3. IZ*ONE 4. aespa 5. (G)-IDLE 6. LE SSERAFIM 7. NMIXX 8. STAYC 9. Kep1er 10. NewJeans Also, TWICE’s overall career has never been smaller than BlackPink’s. BP has higher highs, but they release so infrequently that TWICE was able to outpace them. I fear IVE may do that to Aespa (IVE have twice as many physicals as Aespa despite having a career that is half the length).
DelRey Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 Top GG 4th Gen 1.NewJeans 2.Ive 3.Aespa 4.G Idle 5.Le Sserafim 6.Itzy 7.StayC 8.Nmixx 9.Kep1er Top BG 4th Gen 1.NCT DREAM 1.Stray Kids 2.Txt 3.Enhypen 4.The Boyz 5.Trashsure
aesthetic bih Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 On 12/22/2022 at 10:20 PM, K$Ellie said: literally the best male kpop song EVER hopefully they’ll be back to quality after that terrible last ep Spill! TXT served quality after quality before and it made TC lackluster. They really focused on "selling the concept" rather than making the songs listenable. However, I am hopeful Temptation is them returning to form
IamCY Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 What do we think of Ditto? It's a cute sing for winter but it's no Generation.
DelRey Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, IamCY said: What do we think of Ditto? It's a cute sing for winter but it's no Generation. This, I hope people remember Generation in the ranking. It's one of my favorites this year.
IamCY Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 this song / album kind of made me an EXO-L tbh King not forgetting quality
Eternium Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, DelRey said: Top GG 4th Gen 1.NewJeans 2.Ive 3.Aespa 4.G Idle 5.Le Sserafim 6.Itzy 7.StayC 8.Nmixx 9.Kep1er Are you just ranking them off their previous eras? Because then it’s: 1. Aespa (1.8M physicals, underperforming single, hit B-side) 2. IVE (1.6M physicals, smash single, meh B-side) 3. NewJeans (712,564 physicals and 1.13B digitals) 4. ITZY (crushed NJ in sales, but NJ destroyed them in digitals) 5. LE SSERAFIM (Antifragile sold 803,419) 6. (G)-IDLE (I LOVE sold 792,082) 7. NMIXX 8. Kep1er 9. STAYC
Pluto6 Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Blank Space said: Looks like TXT's wig as the favorite little brothers of BTS is safe. 1 hour ago, Axel. said: STAYC > NMIXX The lies. NMIXX clears them globally, and have better streams & sales." DICE" did way better than "Beautiful Monster". 40 minutes ago, Eternium said: Right now it’s: 1. ITZY 2. IVE 3. IZ*ONE 4. aespa 5. (G)-IDLE 6. LE SSERAFIM 7. NMIXX 8. STAYC 9. Kep1er 10. NewJeans Also, TWICE’s overall career has never been smaller than BlackPink’s. BP has higher highs, but they release so infrequently that TWICE was able to outpace them. I fear IVE may do that to Aespa (IVE have twice as many physicals as Aespa despite having a career that is half the length). If we go by stats, then you are correct about TWICE being bigger than BP, but BP still have more impact. During 3rd gen, it was TWICE who was holding it down and keeping people fed, while BP was away most of the time, so it makes sense why people would pick TWICE as the gg that represents 3rd gen the most. 24 minutes ago, DelRey said: Top GG 4th Gen 1.NewJeans 2.Ive 3.Aespa 4.G Idle 5.Le Sserafim 6.Itzy 7.StayC 8.Nmixx 9.Kep1er Top BG 4th Gen 1.NCT DREAM 1.Stray Kids 2.Txt 3.Enhypen 4.The Boyz 5.Trashsure - Both TREASURE and ATEEZ are bigger than The GAYZ - NCT DREAM are not bigger than SKZ or TXT even if they were to be considered 4th gen in an alternative universe - ITZY & aespa are on the same level, so both groups should be right next to each other in rankings 19 minutes ago, IamCY said: What do we think of Ditto? It's a cute sing for winter but it's no Generation. "Generation" kinda outsold NewJeans except for Hype BOY 1. Hype Boy 2. Generation -----Gap-------------- 3. Cookie 4. Ditto 5. Attention 6. Hurt
lauvender Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 56 minutes ago, Eternium said: Right now it’s: 1. ITZY 2. IVE 3. IZ*ONE 4. aespa 5. (G)-IDLE 6. LE SSERAFIM 7. NMIXX 8. STAYC 9. Kep1er 10. NewJeans Also, TWICE’s overall career has never been smaller than BlackPink’s. BP has higher highs, but they release so infrequently that TWICE was able to outpace them. I fear IVE may do that to Aespa (IVE have twice as many physicals as Aespa despite having a career that is half the length). NMIXX, Kep1er & StayC above NewJeans
DanyelP23 Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 Twice’s Better and Good at love is the best 1-2 japanese track PUNCH I’ve heard in a WHILE
BigBangStan Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 Generation is not that good the only memorable part is the Lalalala, and that's it.
Pluto6 Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 (edited) 4th gen kings, the way this unpromoted project that's just a gift for fans did that Their next album is going to STOMP Edited December 23, 2022 by Pluto2022
illia Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 Generation kinda aged like milk but it's still better than Hurt and Cookie
Blank Space Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, Pluto2022 said: Looks like TXT's wig as the favorite little brothers of BTS is safe. You mean the only brothers. Anyway, them having a scandal before even debuting. I'm not surprised their debut got canceled. Poor the other members tho. Edited December 24, 2022 by Blank Space
Eternium Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, lauvender said: NMIXX, Kep1er & StayC above NewJeans NMIXX have had one comeback and a debut. Their career sales are 1.04M on Gaon. Kep1er have had two comebacks, a Japanese debut and a debut. Their career sales are 1.01M Gaon and FLY-UP (JPN single) did 88,496. STAYC have had four comebacks, a Japanese debut and a debut. Their career sales are ~875k and Poppy (JPN single) did 9,002. NewJeans will surpass them easily with their first comeback, but expecting NewJeans to be bigger with just a four month old debut era versus a group that has had two years is a little much, sis. 2 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: If we go by stats, then you are correct about TWICE being bigger than BP, but BP still have more impact. During 3rd gen, it was TWICE who was holding it down and keeping people fed, while BP was away most of the time, so it makes sense why people would pick TWICE as the gg that represents 3rd gen the most. - ITZY & aespa are on the same level, so both groups should be right next to each other in rankings I think the girls really don’t recognize how hard it is for groups to constantly be coming back. And the girls keep dragging TWICE’s poor digital success now, but they’re still doing 1M+ with mini-albums. Also, Aespa are much bigger than ITZY. Girls did 1.8M and didn’t get re-released afterwards. Checkmate did 1,025,434 and to even be able to hit the 1M mark, JYP released another three special editions to boost shipments. The B-side “Illusion” ended up drawing more Circle digital points than every B-side in ITZY’s career combined - ITZY has never even had a B-side chart.
Pluto6 Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 The fact that a day after they released their special album album with 25 songs, they announced A FULL JAPANESE STUDIO ALBUM that will be released in February Like their schedule is so packed
DelRey Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 18 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: The lies. NMIXX clears them globally, and have better streams & sales." DICE" did way better than "Beautiful Monster". - Both TREASURE and ATEEZ are bigger than The GAYZ - ITZY & aespa are on the same level, so both groups should be right next to each other in rankings StayC does better in Korea and their sales are not fraudulent. Plus: their music is listenable. I don't even remember about Ateez but you are right. Itzy is a fad, Aespa clear them with 2 minis.
aesthetic bih Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 17 hours ago, IamCY said: What do we think of Ditto? It's a cute sing for winter but it's no Generation. Generation is old school Kpop, I can see why it's not smashing as it should. However, many Kpop stans especially the veterans appreciate it a lot.
Spears_Stan Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 Posting this before atrl daily shutdown Remember this songs for the yearly ranking: Chobom - copycat Apink - dilemma Solar - Honey Whee in- make me happy Hwasa - Somebody Seulgi - 28 reasons Mamamoo- Illella Red velvet - Feel My Rhythm Red velvet- bamboleo Red velvet - In my dreams
aesthetic bih Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 16 hours ago, Pluto2022 said: 4th gen kings, the way this unpromoted project that's just a gift for fans did that Their next album is going to STOMP Loving the gift for the fans concept. Hopefully this becomes a trend and my faves also does this in the future - Just heard about the Trainee A tragedy. I feel bad for the members, they disbanded before even getting debuted. Didn't know that could be a thing.
fauxtography Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 On 12/22/2022 at 7:48 AM, Pluto2022 said: TWICE's Japanese discography is untouchable I fear. This should've been the title track instead of "Celebrate" The album is so good. That’s all I’m saying is like one of my favorite Twice songs ever!
Adama Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 Sbs gayo special stages. Exited for LSRFM, I love the Boys
Comedor Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 On 12/22/2022 at 11:12 AM, lauvender said: NewJeans IVE LESSERAFIM are monster rookies and the big 3 of the new Gen, don’t try to downplay IVE. They had 3 hit back to back! Remove LSF add aespa. Don’t be delusional.
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