sxhunluv Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 Also some of the mega hits like Tell Me by Wonder Girls and Lies by Big Bang were disadvantaged in Melon because during the near end of 1st gen and mid-aughts of kpop (01 to 05) Bugs and Soribada used to be the #1 and #2 streaming platforms by a huge margin. After the Korean government shut them down for not paying the record labels for copyright, the biggest music charts for 06 to 08 was Cyworld and not MelOn. Cyworld was like a Korean equivalent of MySpace. MelOn became the number one streaming/download platform in 2009. Case in point, Tell Me's year end chart position for Cyworld music chart was #3 (I'm assuming that it would've been number one if it was released earlier, but it was released in September), but #26 (2007) and #95 (2008) for Melon. Same for Bigbang as Lies was #1 on Cyworld Y.E Chart but #15 on MelOn. There was quite a disparity between Melon and Cyworld/Bugs/Soribada pre 2008~9.
Eternium Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Dark Horse said: we need another group filled with TRUE triple threats. no other group is as well rounded when it comes to ACTING. nowadays we're just grateful if a group is able to sing live Baby, I promise you that not even those of us who were T-ARA fans during their reign considered them beacons of talent. Aespa, Le Sserafim, NMIXX and ITZY are all infinitely more talented (even if they lack the discography). 47 minutes ago, sxhunluv said: I didn’t include their Japanese career but if it was included they would’ve been right below 2ne1. also y’all look down on wg and davichi. Davichi has the most amount of hits for a girl group (their year end entries are from 2008 to 2021) and every song released by WG went #1 on melon except for Irony (which was also #10) I think it’s because everyone realizes how much manipulation there was on digital charts. It’s hard to take anything serious with Korean charts. 9 minutes ago, sxhunluv said: Also some of the mega hits like Tell Me by Wonder Girls and Lies by Big Bang were disadvantaged in Melon because during the near end of 1st gen and mid-aughts of kpop (01 to 05) Bugs and Soribada used to be the #1 and #2 streaming platforms by a huge margin. After the Korean government shut them down for not paying the record labels for copyright, the biggest music charts for 06 to 08 was Cyworld and not MelOn. Cyworld was like a Korean equivalent of MySpace. MelOn became the number one streaming/download platform in 2009. Case in point, Tell Me's year end chart position for Cyworld music chart was #3 (I'm assuming that it would've been number one if it was released earlier, but it was released in September), but #26 (2007) and #95 (2008) for Melon. Same for Bigbang as Lies was #1 on Cyworld Y.E Chart but #15 on MelOn. There was quite a disparity between Melon and Cyworld/Bugs/Soribada pre 2008~9. The nostalgia that this just brought back. I can remember when record labels would beef with a platform and suddenly your fave would become a digital flop…only for the record label to team up with a separate platform and your fave would fly up the charts.
Cheers Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 SISTAR were not lower than KARA and T-ARA lol. KARA was flopping in Korea for YEARS despite having a much bigger fanbase. They never had solo success or sub-unit success. Their recurrent streams on YouTube, Melon, and Spotify aren’t good. Same can be said for T-ARA.
OrgVisual Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 56 minutes ago, Eternium said: Baby, I promise you that not even those of us who were T-ARA fans during their reign considered them beacons of talent. Aespa, Le Sserafim, NMIXX and ITZY are all infinitely more talented (even if they lack the discography). I think it’s because everyone realizes how much manipulation there was on digital charts. It’s hard to take anything serious with Korean charts. The nostalgia that this just brought back. I can remember when record labels would beef with a platform and suddenly your fave would become a digital flop…only for the record label to team up with a separate platform and your fave would fly up the charts. nnnnnn people are quick to forget Qri and Boram are among the most useless idols ever
Cheers Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, rapperjennie said: Orbits did all that mess during Queendom just for LOONA to start collapsing shortly after. Ahhh.
elevate Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 I love Tara's discography but they're generally faceless, tbh. They had excellent creative direction (before they didn't), and a fantastic producer. All the girl groups we know today are significantly more talented. The pressure / game is more intense and there is little wiggle room for mistakes.
Ghiles Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 44 minutes ago, Cheers said: SISTAR were not lower than KARA and T-ARA lol. KARA was flopping in Korea for YEARS despite having a much bigger fanbase. They never had solo success or sub-unit success. Their recurrent streams on YouTube, Melon, and Spotify aren’t good. Same can be said for T-ARA. Sistar comeback 2025
elevate Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, sxhunluv said: Also some of the mega hits like Tell Me by Wonder Girls and Lies by Big Bang were disadvantaged in Melon because during the near end of 1st gen and mid-aughts of kpop (01 to 05) Bugs and Soribada used to be the #1 and #2 streaming platforms by a huge margin. After the Korean government shut them down for not paying the record labels for copyright, the biggest music charts for 06 to 08 was Cyworld and not MelOn. Cyworld was like a Korean equivalent of MySpace. MelOn became the number one streaming/download platform in 2009. Case in point, Tell Me's year end chart position for Cyworld music chart was #3 (I'm assuming that it would've been number one if it was released earlier, but it was released in September), but #26 (2007) and #95 (2008) for Melon. Same for Bigbang as Lies was #1 on Cyworld Y.E Chart but #15 on MelOn. There was quite a disparity between Melon and Cyworld/Bugs/Soribada pre 2008~9. Interesting!
OrgVisual Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, Dark Horse said: they really aren't. dream high, jungle fish 2, god of study, my girlfriend is a gumiho.. t-ara were drama queens. and hyomin even directed music videos. 6/9 SNSD members have acting roles
Pinter Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 T-ara is legend, and boram will forever be famous.
OrgVisual Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 Just now, Dark Horse said: and none of those dramas were as big as t-ara's Yoona's drama had like 40% ratings she also has box office mega hits and 3 Korean Oscar noms. T-ARA wishes
Pluto6 Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) We love to see it ——— ITZY vocal legends confirmed, cause even the main vocalist of 4th gen said that the song was very high and hard to sing Spoiler Or maybe she meant that it was too high for them, cause she sang it effortlessly Edited December 7, 2022 by Pluto2022
Sheep Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) The way just a few cockroach stans of T-ARA who are still obsessed with SNSD are setting the narrative for new generations of fans with outright lies. I aspire to be that dedicated to aespa in 2032. It's giving xtina's remaining base. Edited December 7, 2022 by Century
youresotoxic Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 groups need to start making songs like this again
Take Me Apart Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 kpop boring lately cuz why are the senior gays arguing about snsd vs sistar vs kara vs t-ara like its 2013 again newjeans come back!!!
newuser Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Sept said: Yoona's drama had like 40% ratings she also has box office mega hits and 3 Korean Oscar noms. T-ARA wishes They don’t know that yoona was famous first as an actress before snsd.
Sonny Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 5 hours ago, ItsJustMe. said: ICONIC I'll be seeing legends in 16 days You're seeing them in Amsterdam too?
Jenlisa Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 36 minutes ago, youresotoxic said: groups need to start making songs like this again I agree, these were both amazing
harrythevifan Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 30 minutes ago, Take Me Apart said: kpop boring lately cuz why are the senior gays arguing about snsd vs sistar vs kara vs t-ara like its 2013 again newjeans come back!!! Or what if next year this Queendom: The Uni✚ show takes the highest voted member from Alice, Dreamnote, woo!ah!, Weeekly, Tri.be, Pixy, Craxy, Purple Kiss, Lightsum, Ichillin', Lapillus, Mimiirose, TripleS, Limelight, Fifty Fifty, Queenz Eye, H1-Key, Irris, cignature, CSR and formed a super group. Certainly that would do something. (Is that supposed to be Grinch :/keir:?)
Green Tea Is Green Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 45 minutes ago, Take Me Apart said: kpop boring lately cuz why are the senior gays arguing about snsd vs sistar vs kara vs t-ara like its 2013 again newjeans come back!!! At least they're not arguing about toddlers now
Xalric Posted December 7, 2022 Posted December 7, 2022 53 minutes ago, youresotoxic said: groups need to start making songs like this again The woman who wrote those song, Her pen isn't as powerful as it used to be. I mean the comeback of her group is a proof in itself.
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