fan base K-Pop Thread: 2022 Archive

[illia]

15 minutes ago, PowerGarlic said:

Yes but they need to drop girl crush music and do weirdcore music instead 

what is "weirdcore" to you?

[Hazy]

3 minutes ago, Adama said:

Hmm I doubt, with how hard the Billboard chart is now, I don’t think she’s going to broke Rosé record. Also in China, if I’m not mistaken OTG did even better than Lalisa so I don’t know if Jisoo can do it too. And for Jennie records in SK, it’s going to be hard bc even Hwasa and Nayeon couldn’t manage to do it with their debuts too.

If the song is a hit, she can have a record with the longevity, since nowadays hits stay longer on the charts. The timing will also play a huge factor. She’s definitely selling at least 700k copies. 

 

I don’t think Jennie comeback will be able to surpass Money success globally but she’s going to do some huge numbers. Her best chance is if The Weeknd collab is real. It’s a huge opportunity 

 

 

I don’t think she would get higher peaks, but sales and longevity wise she can definitely do that. Jennie’s SOLO was long ago and Rose’s release was pretty frontloaded. Jisoo has hype and angry stans on board. Wasn’t her digipack the most ordered one on ktown? And then sooyas rioted when Rose solo happenned on Born Pink 

 

and when it comes to Jennie, she didn’t have the chance to show us her power post proper kpop blow up, sales are steadily growing so we will see what are her capabilities, The Idol will give her an even bigger exposure - I also feel like her music is more vulnerable, authentic and I believe she will have input in her next release, it may help her image and chart wise 

 

her „untouchable, cold and double-sided” it girl status in Korea can be well translated to western markets, we will see next year, it will be kinda „make it or break it” year for her, the things she worked on for the past two years will unfold

[DelRey]

 

 

Their visuals  

[Selenasworld]

Jisoo OSTs? 

[discreetinside]

2 hours ago, Selenasworld said:

The other day someone postes a video asking Korean people if they care about 4 and 3rd gen artists and they don't

The video was from 2020 but you get the idea

 

[Harrier]

2 hours ago, IamCY said:

KARA haven't had a hit in over a decade wow  justice

 

 Korea's goodwill towards to 2nd Gen continues to shock me, we (everyone) really thought they moved on and forgot

Although K-pop has got much bigger worldwide as we all know, I have seen some people argue that Kpop's peak of general public/mainstream cultural relevance in Korea was during 2nd generation. Hell, multiple boygroups got actual hits during those times, which is unthinkable now.

 

So perhaps that explains why 2nd gen groups are able to somehow snag hits 15 years in when that's probably not going to happen for 3rd of 4th gen girl groups (besides perhaps Blackpink), and when it hasn't really happened for 1st gen groups either.

 

Also, Kara are being helped by the fact that When I Move is an instant classic in their discog. Perfect choice for them.

[discreetinside]

They're slowly coming for Japan NGG

 

 

[illia]

11 minutes ago, PowerGarlic said:

Weird is subjective but I would say something like these

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So IST hire me for free to pick Weeekly songs so we can finally make their best album of their career 

 

ok I can totally see them doing the first and the third song

you might be onto something

[Adama]

47 minutes ago, Hazy said:

I don’t think she would get higher peaks, but sales and longevity wise she can definitely do that. Jennie’s SOLO was long ago and Rose’s release was pretty frontloaded. Jisoo has hype and angry stans on board. Wasn’t her digipack the most ordered one on ktown? And then sooyas rioted when Rose solo happenned on Born Pink 

 

and when it comes to Jennie, she didn’t have the chance to show us her power post proper kpop blow up, sales are steadily growing so we will see what are her capabilities, The Idol will give her an even bigger exposure - I also feel like her music is more vulnerable, authentic and I believe she will have input in her next release, it may help her image and chart wise 

 

her „untouchable, cold and double-sided” it girl status in Korea can be well translated to western markets, we will see next year, it will be kinda „make it or break it” year for her, the things she worked on for the past two years will unfold

For Jisoo I was talking about the digitals, streaming and charts records. I know she will sell extremely well with her physicals, her mv will surely have a lot of views, more than Rosé. But for the rest idk. 
Honestly if I was her I would put the solo on standby and I would film a Netflix drama instead! 
 

And for Jennie except maybe the collab if it’s real I don’t see how she can cb next year lol. I can’t see YGE knowing how to handle 3 BP Blackpink projects 

[ItsJustMe.]

3 hours ago, hallucinate said:

hmmm idk, while jisoo is more popular than rosé in korea i don’t think the GP stans her as a soloist/singer (idk if that makes sense) 

yeah koreans have always hated on jisus' angelic vocals while praising rosé's

I don’t see a jisolo do well on the k-charts at all tbh

[rzal]

35 minutes ago, Harrier said:

Although K-pop has got much bigger worldwide as we all know, I have seen some people argue that Kpop's peak of general public/mainstream cultural relevance in Korea was during 2nd generation. Hell, multiple boygroups got actual hits during those times, which is unthinkable now.

 

So perhaps that explains why 2nd gen groups are able to somehow snag hits 15 years in when that's probably not going to happen for 3rd of 4th gen girl groups (besides perhaps Blackpink), and when it hasn't really happened for 1st gen groups either.

 

Also, Kara are being helped by the fact that When I Move is an instant classic in their discog. Perfect choice for them.

Idk I feel like if Twice disbanded today and came back in 10 years they'd smash too. Right now they're lowkey has beens but soon they will be missed legends and people will feel nostalgic  

[discreetinside]

Let me share some of my 2023 predictions here

 

1) 4th Gen gg

- New Jeans first comeback will be very successful and being a million seller.

- IVE release their PROPER FULL album somewhere around Jan-Feb before embarked on Asia tour/fan meeting on Mac-Apr. Their album will have major success and may even broke NJ comeback million seller records within months.

- LSFM doing great on comebacks albeit not as strong as NJ and IVE comeback success.

-Baemon will either have gigantic smash debut or underwhelming debut depend on the songs and YG planning.

- Aespa: See Baemon

 

2) 4th Gen bg

- Stray Kids continue to grow bigger worldwide and may finally start to win daesangs.

- Treasure popularity continue to grow (albeit in slower rate) especially in Japan thanks to their Japan tour and their MAMA live performance

- Trainee A debut will be a success mainly due to the residue of their senior popularity.

- Some random nugu group will get minor success due to members act on a BL webtoon drama.

[Harrier]

8 minutes ago, rzal said:

Idk I feel like if Twice disbanded today and came back in 10 years they'd smash too. Right now they're lowkey has beens but soon they will be missed legends and people will feel nostalgic  

Yeah I can't disagree. Twice + Blackpink for sure.
I guess the difference is that Kara were probably the 4th, 5th or even 6th biggest 2nd gen girl group in Korea, and yet they are remembered.

I don't think equivalent 3rd gen acts like say Gfriend will be having hits in 2030 

 

 

[cloudbusting]

 

 

ugh hope she can either find a company willing to see she has a niche audience and capitalize on it to grow or secure funding somehow

[mathekr]

2 hours ago, Harrier said:

Original queens of J-pop are back with another underproduced Japanese version 

 

Looking back on their Japanese stats, I forgot just how hard they smashed there. Biggest K-GG in Japan ever for sure

Watching this kinda made me hate SM for not doing the same for Forever 1 nn

Especially because both groups haven't released new japanese music for the same amount of time.

Edited December 6, 2022 by mathekr

[Xalric]

 

So JYP rejected this song for ITZY, fun fact, EVERGLOW, Blackswan and Hyoyeon also rejected it.

 

JYP also rejected this one too for ITZY (it was sent for Sneakerz era)

 

Edited December 6, 2022 by Xalric

[Pluto6]

To all the old hags in here who have been Kpop fans way longer than I have:

What did popularity and success ranking look like with 2nd gen girl groups? 

 

From what I have observed it looked like this?:

 

1. SNSD

2. 2NE1

3. Wonder Girls

4. Sistar

5. f(x)

6. T-ara 

7. Kara

8. 4minute

9. miss A

10. Apink

 

Am I right or should I give it up to Deelishis? 

 

 

 

[Adama]

Blackpink TABS 

 

 

[Adama]

7 minutes ago, Xalric said:

 

So JYP rejected this song for ITZY, fun fact, EVERGLOW, Blackswan and Hyoyeon also rejected it.

 

It kinda sound like a kd/a song written by Bekuh Boom lol! 

[illia]

19 minutes ago, Xalric said:

 

So JYP rejected this song for ITZY, fun fact, EVERGLOW, Blackswan and Hyoyeon also rejected it.

 

JYP also rejected this one too for ITZY (it was sent for Sneakerz era)

 

Wannabes would suit more for Blackpink as a b-side

 

Speakers is such a bop! Would be a perfect title track for the current "grown-up" ITZY style  

slightly reminds me of f(x) as well

 

and I'm still pissed they rejected Love Sniper

Edited December 6, 2022 by Flomik

[OrgVisual]

54 minutes ago, Harrier said:

Yeah I can't disagree. Twice + Blackpink for sure.
I guess the difference is that Kara were probably the 4th, 5th or even 6th biggest 2nd gen girl group in Korea, and yet they are remembered.

I don't think equivalent 3rd gen acts like say Gfriend will be having hits in 2030 

 

 

They were competing for #3 with WG and SISTAR 

[Whatevaaaaa]

57 minutes ago, Harrier said:

Yeah I can't disagree. Twice + Blackpink for sure.
I guess the difference is that Kara were probably the 4th, 5th or even 6th biggest 2nd gen girl group in Korea, and yet they are remembered.

I don't think equivalent 3rd gen acts like say Gfriend will be having hits in 2030 

 

 

However with Kara that was mostly due to them splitting time between Japan and Korea so even though they haven’t sold as much they would have if they weren’t so big in Japan. 

[Hazy]

1 hour ago, Adama said:

For Jisoo I was talking about the digitals, streaming and charts records. I know she will sell extremely well with her physicals, her mv will surely have a lot of views, more than Rosé. But for the rest idk. 
Honestly if I was her I would put the solo on standby and I would film a Netflix drama instead! 
 

And for Jennie except maybe the collab if it’s real I don’t see how she can cb next year lol. I can’t see YGE knowing how to handle 3 BP Blackpink projects 

if the song will be good she can gain traction on Spotify and that’s more than enough for her, she prefer acting either way - she will have amazing sales and good longevity on the streaming platforms, won’t reach Jennie’s heights on the charts in Korea but she will be good 

 

yeah, YG is the issue, but we will see what is included in their contracts if they renew, we will know how will it look in a year… I predict Jisoo solo and Jennie comeback for next year. I think that the latter has the material ready if we take the new track into consideration, it’s just that the fans will go mad if she releases anything before Jisoo and they need do solve that somehow… 

[DelRey]

You still believe BP is gonna release something next year 

 

They took 2 years and gave us 6 new songs, 1 reject from The Album era and 1 reject from Rosé album. 

It's hard to believe YG will let them release new music so soon and Jisoo seems like she doesn't want to have a solo debut so... 

Edited December 6, 2022 by DelRey

[NeonTiger]

1 hour ago, Adama said:

Blackpink TABS