hallucinate Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Flomik said: it seems that the funeral is not too effective because it lasts only one comeback we need to come up with something more long-lasting can’t think of any other idea tbh i’ll let the universe handle this one and wish for the best
Adama Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 Urgh bc of the WC and his song playing when SK won, Jungkook awful song is top 5 on melon ! I mean no one can have a bigger promo than this one. Glad that the most talented of the group is winning but the song is so bad I can’t SMTM song is also coming I just love IU , she better drop an album next year
BowWow Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 6 hours ago, Flomik said: XG > NiziU Speak on it!
DanyelP23 Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 AESPA = RV IVE = TWICE NEWJEANS = GFRIEND NMIXX = BRAVE GIRLS MAMAMOO LESSERAFIM = BLACKPINK
BowWow Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 Not y’all kicking Aespa out your rankings as if the smashery followed by floppery they did this year can’t happen to the girls u said replaced them JUST like it happened to aespa anyway, at least naevis made sure they had the whole year to themselves. They weren’t sharing anything unlike the new gurlz the way illusion charted and gave longevity despite being a pre release proves they only need something listenable to be smashing again.
Adama Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 20 hours ago, Companion said: Besides Jisoo I believe 3 of them are cabaple to break into western market. Its not like they borned and only lived in Korea only. Yeah their appeal come from being a kpop gg but also their western personalities and images also what made them so popular internationally. They can easily join an us label and manage their music anything that 3 of them do will be very profitable at the end. All of them can reach amazing height globally if they work with an international label. But in the western labels you have to work really hard and add your vision to your product as an artist I fear that YG made them being used to laziness so they wont bother so much if they break into another market. Also their indivisual fan power is insane they will eat up everything they release. The western market is so hard to break. How many talented female artists do we have that keep flopping? Having good songs are not enough, you need something to catch the gp attention. The girls don’t have western personalities lol. The closet we have it’s Jennie with her partying and dating I guess. But otherwise they’re still very restricted like every Koreans celebs. And western labels are not going to give them the budget that they used to have in YGE. More musics yes, maybe. But then what, no more fancams, no more dance practices, no more performances videos, are they going to do promo in SK? Do you think a western label is going to organize fansigns (which are the reason why Kpop albums sell a lot)?, drop multiples versions?
BowWow Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 Also g idle will fade. Idk what to tell u. They’re giving gp darling who gets forgotten. look how Nxde did better than fearless yet lesakurafim did better album sales despite being rookies. Idle don’t have the fan base they’re too boring aesthetically my bag still that ***** tho
Adama Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 1 minute ago, BowWow said: Also g idle will fade. Idk what to tell u. They’re giving gp darling who gets forgotten. look how Nxde did better than fearless yet lesakurafim did better album sales despite being rookies. Idle don’t have the fan base they’re too boring aesthetically my bag still that ***** tho G idle will be the new mamamoo (without the vocals ofc). The gp will be tired at one point. Look at how Nxde was frontloaded
aesthetic bih Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Pluto2022 said: Even their sub-rapper is better than all of Kpop gg combined How tf is Harvey is a main rapper, while Maya is only a sub rapper. The latter is way more skilled in rapping imo.
DanyelP23 Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, BowWow said: Also g idle will fade. Idk what to tell u. They’re giving gp darling who gets forgotten. look how Nxde did better than fearless yet lesakurafim did better album sales despite being rookies. Idle don’t have the fan base they’re too boring aesthetically my bag still that ***** tho I mean gridle debuted in 2018, and LSF in 2022. It's logical the later gonna sell more in albums. What other GGs have exploded in sales despite debut before 2020? The only ones I can think of are RV but they've always had issues with ShyteM not meeting the demand for their albums (as far as I heard from reveluvs)
Adama Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, DanyelP23 said: AESPA = RV IVE = TWICE NEWJEANS = GFRIEND NMIXX = BRAVE GIRLS MAMAMOO LESSERAFIM = BLACKPINK The problem is that unlike RV, Aespa is the best-selling gg among their peers, so not comparable. IVE is comparable to Twice bc of their sales, their success in Japan and their back to back hits, but they’re also comparable to BP bc they peaked the highest on the global streaming platforms. NJ is like BP bc their debut reached #1 just like Whistle. NMIXX they can’t be compared to Mamamoo bc even Mamamoo was getting hits unlike them. LSRFM they are like RV bc they have good bsides
aesthetic bih Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 4 hours ago, xfreshkidxx said: Poor Sh*tzy fans This has got to be the floppiest GG song ever. Even some nugus can do better than this. Like how can you do worse than O.O and especially after following a hit cb (Sneakers) Sad cuz I liked the b sides of their new mini so much...
Pluto6 Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, DanyelP23 said: What other GGs have exploded in sales despite debut before 2020? TWICE, BP & ITZY 7 minutes ago, aesthetic bih said: How tf is Harvey is a main rapper, while Maya is only a sub rapper. The latter is way more skilled in rapping imo. I honestly have no idea, I was also shocked to find out that she's only a sub-rapper
MusicFan98 Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, BowWow said: the way illusion charted and gave longevity despite being a pre release proves they only need something listenable to be smashing again. People on this thread have been ignoring how Illusion is currently outcharting hits like Pop and Sneakers. So, either both Sneakers and Pop are Flops or Illusion is a hit, pick your struggle aespa haters.
Butters Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 That Jungkook song less than two days to hit #1 on Melon before Brazil sends Korea packing on Monday and they collectively drop it like a Christmas song on the 26th
Butters Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, MusicFan98 said: People on this thread have been ignoring how Illusion is currently outcharting hits like Pop and Sneakers. So, either both Sneakers and Pop are Flops or Illusion is a hit, pick your struggle aespa haters. Real hits like Fearless and Eleven outcharting all of those
Pluto6 Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, MusicFan98 said: People on this thread have been ignoring how Illusion is currently outcharting hits like Pop and Sneakers. So, either both Sneakers and Pop are Flops or Illusion is a hit, pick your struggle aespa haters. Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler
BowWow Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 20 minutes ago, Adama said: G idle will be the new mamamoo (without the vocals ofc). The gp will be tired at one point. Look at how Nxde was frontloaded This spill! I doubt they’ll serve mamamoo back to back smashes but this is a good comparison anyways 6 minutes ago, MusicFan98 said: People on this thread have been ignoring how Illusion is currently outcharting hits like Pop and Sneakers. So, either both Sneakers and Pop are Flops or Illusion is a hit, pick your struggle aespa haters. Right karispa still It gurls in their flop year, no wonder they’re scared!
DanyelP23 Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pluto2022 said: TWICE, BP & ITZY I honestly have no idea, I was also shocked to find out that she's only a sub-rapper BP had always had huge sales and was bound to "explode" bcs they hadn't released anything in a while and Twix had always had good album sales. Funny how ITCHY actually served a similar growth like RV, but they did so while flopping internationally with Sneakers, Boys like you and Cheshyte. Idk why I thought RV had this incredible growth but they went from 200k 1st week in 2021 to 450k in 2022 (which is still great, but it's in similar vein to Itzy). They growth was much more impressive as a group from 2019 to the 2021 comebacks
Dialamba Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 Ive and NJ have basically the same trajectory than twice and BP. IVE : debut is a sleeper hit, 1st cb SOTY and national hit 2nd cb explosive numbers+ popularity in japan they solidified their top group statue in a year. NJ : explosive debut, multiply top 10. pop did great in Korea, Japan and internationally it will song of the month let it go even if it doesn’t have the best longevity it did its thing, illusion is basically a title track it got more promotion than girls.
Luckitty Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, Adama said: The problem is that unlike RV, Aespa is the best-selling gg among their peers, so not comparable. IVE is comparable to Twice bc of their sales, their success in Japan and their back to back hits, but they’re also comparable to BP bc they peaked the highest on the global streaming platforms. NJ is like BP bc their debut reached #1 just like Whistle. NMIXX they can’t be compared to Mamamoo bc even Mamamoo was getting hits unlike them. LSRFM they are like RV bc they have good bsides nmixx are like wjsn, talented group with a flop first year
Zack Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 32 minutes ago, MusicFan98 said: People on this thread have been ignoring how Illusion is currently outcharting hits like Pop and Sneakers. So, either both Sneakers and Pop are Flops or Illusion is a hit, pick your struggle aespa haters. This! Plus...judging by how a certain other 4th gen comeback is doing currently, we can drop the Girls "flop" allegations too.
illia Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 wow it feels refreshing to see the MV reactions individually instead of the group one
Adama Posted December 3, 2022 Posted December 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, Luckitty said: nmixx are like wjsn, talented group with a flop first year But WJSN didn’t came from a big 3 agency! Do we have a big 3 gg who flopped during their first year?
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