Sorecer Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Adama said: It’s a mix of both, a lot of casual listeners in SEA and the West who streams on Spotify and Yt. IVE are big on Tik tok too(Dear Cupid)! Most of IVE dedicated fans are from China, Japan and SK. People who aren’t loud on twitter but who buy albums and merch. Which is what matters. Also Im seeing more and more Rei and Liz Stans on twitter. I don’t think LSRFM is bigger than IVE fandom. NJ maybe but we will see in December Anyways almost 3 millions in 1 year and without a global distributor. It’s insane actually But they don't have a Fandom With their mini or full I can see them being close to the 2M I can't believe they have almost 3M copies sold with only singles!
DelRey Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 Where are the new SM BG and the Sungchan and Shotaro unit tho? They are just Youtubers atp
Zack Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Cotton said: RV about to release yet another mini album I guess our best hope is that SM repackages FMR and this new mini into a full album next year. Like they did with Day 1 + Day 2 = Finale. Idk why they keep avoiding RV3 though. Like FMR sold 700k and their restocked old albums together have sold around 800k this year. So it's not like a full album wouldn't do numbers
hallucinate Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 this being top 3 in their discography despite the shitty mixing
illia Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 56 minutes ago, Sorecer said: Concept trailer this year, but debut in May? the NMIXXprint
OrgVisual Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 48 minutes ago, Zack said: I guess our best hope is that SM repackages FMR and this new mini into a full album next year. Like they did with Day 1 + Day 2 = Finale. Idk why they keep avoiding RV3 though. Like FMR sold 700k and their restocked old albums together have sold around 800k this year. So it's not like a full album wouldn't do numbers Sales won't be any difference between a full album & mini. And it takes less efforts & money to produce a mini vs a full album That's why IVE is churning out those single albums for quick cash
Sheep Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Zack said: I guess our best hope is that SM repackages FMR and this new mini into a full album next year. Like they did with Day 1 + Day 2 = Finale. Idk why they keep avoiding RV3 though. Like FMR sold 700k and their restocked old albums together have sold around 800k this year. So it's not like a full album wouldn't do numbers RV went from one of the biggest international gg hits of all time with Psycho straight into being underpromoted and fandom driven after aespa debuted. The fact that I've seen aespa 4 times this year in the US and Red Velvet only came here in 2019 and one time to kcon. They always pull this **** with their groups and it kills tons of international potential. RV could easily fill arenas all around the world right now. 20 minutes ago, Sept said: Sales won't be any difference between a full album & mini. And it takes less efforts & money to produce a mini vs a full album That's why IVE is churning out those single albums for quick cash To be fair FMR had a lot more effort put into it than a quick little IVE bop droplet.
BigBangStan Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 We need an aespa comeback early next year SM
Zack Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sept said: Sales won't be any difference between a full album & mini. And it takes less efforts & money to produce a mini vs a full album That's why IVE is churning out those single albums for quick cash I mean this would make sense if SM was purely investment driven, like Starship is. But we know they are not (at least not until Kakao finally gets their claws in anyway). Proof of that is the fact that, this year, they invested in SNSD's 7th FULL album, even though it's barely scraping 230k on Hanteo overall vs. FMR's 600k (for a mini) or even Seulgi's mini which sold 200k just over 2 weeks after its release. I'd also say aespa is in the same boat and they are getting overdue for their 1st full album too. SM's priorities are so weird. 1 hour ago, Century said: RV went from one of the biggest international gg hits of all time with Psycho straight into being underpromoted and fandom driven after aespa debuted. The fact that I've seen aespa 4 times this year in the US and Red Velvet only came here in 2019 and one time to kcon. They always pull this **** with their groups and it kills tons of international potential. RV could easily fill arenas all around the world right now. I mean even before that, RV had Bad Boy which is eligible for RIAA Gold certification in the U.S....except SM won't sign them to a U.S. label RV have 2 Gold eligible singles in the U.S. and an English speaker. A U.S. debut really should have been attempted, but at this point, SM has shown they aren't interested in that for RV. Even though in 2019, Capitol's senior vice president was basically begging to sign RV. Edited November 3, 2022 by Zack
Dialamba Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, BigBangStan said: We need an aespa comeback early next year SM Reveluvs complaining about a damn full album when aespa isn’t getting one this year
MusicFan98 Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 Aespa's debut full album is not a priority, RV's 3rd is. TVXQ and SuJu have like 10 albums each, Boa has like 10 albums too, SHINee has like 6 six, EXO has 6, SNSD has 7 full albums, Taeyeon has 3 full solo albums, and even NCT has like 9 albums combined Hell, f(x) has 4 full albums.
Zack Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, MusicFan98 said: Aespa's debut full album is not a priority, RV's 3rd is. TVXQ and SuJu have like 10 albums each, Boa has like 10 albums too, SHINee has like 6 six, EXO has 6, SNSD has 7 full albums, Taeyeon has 3 full solo albums, and even NCT has like 9 albums combined Hell, f(x) has 4 full albums. RV is the most priority because 2 full albums in 8 years is just ridiculous, especially since their contract is ending in less than 2 years. aespa full album is not a massive priority *yet*, but if they don't get one in the first half of next year, then it will be. Only CSJH The Grace and NCT had to wait 2 years+ for a full album. And The Grace were a flop and NCT still released 4 mini albums before their full album. Aespa only has 2 mini albums in 2 years.
discreetinside Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 5 hours ago, hallucinate said: this being top 3 in their discography despite the shitty mixing Hopefully they release the Korean version on their full album.
exists Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 Imagine complaining about a full album when they get to release consistent music since their debut. What's the difference anyway? IVE single album doubled RV mini album sales. RV full album is not gonna magically make them sell more than aespa The obsession over not getting full albums (while getting 2 mini albums in a year) and considered that as a mistreatment is laughable. Also if SM is so focused on profit they would only make NCT and aespa release music. They would have dropped RV and stopped many of the solo projects ages ago.
Lost In Paradise Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 this narrative that neither of the HYBE new GGs can sing needs to end NOW LSF Yunjin is literally classically trained and will most likely end up being regarded in the same way as Wendy once she gets to really show off Haerin in NewJennies clearly has immense vocal talent, even without showing much range yet. her runs and riffs are soooo smooth though
Chemist Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 These Triple S girls are a mix of Newjeans and LeSseraffim At least visually
Sheep Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, exists said: Imagine complaining about a full album when they get to release consistent music since their debut. What's the difference anyway? IVE single album doubled RV mini album sales. RV full album is not gonna magically make them sell more than aespa Reveluv are in it for the talent and the music. Not the sales. I know that might be a hard pill to swallow for you. We're just discussing sales because from a business perspective it seems like a bad choice NOT to give a full album to a group that shifted 1m units this year. 8 minutes ago, exists said: The obsession over not getting full albums (while getting 2 mini albums in a year) and considered that as a mistreatment is laughable. Also if SM is so focused on profit they would only make NCT and aespa release music. They would have dropped RV and stopped many of the solo projects ages ago. This is a poor argument because the industry has room for all these groups. If NCT and aespa were enough to saturate the market on their own there wouldn't be other companies or groups to begin with. Red Velvet has had to promote against EXO, SNSD, NCT, aespa, and still carved out a steady fanbase of their own even with some of the biggest pop music acts of the last decade in the whole world coming from their company.
Chemist Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 Anti fragile still hits HARD I have to say 2022 has been so good for k-pop. A total renovation of sound and visuals EDIT: Only GGs. BGs keep doing the same **** since 2016. NCT ruined boy groups I fear
Witnessed ET Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, Lost In Paradise said: this narrative that neither of the HYBE new GGs can sing needs to end NOW LSF Yunjin is literally classically trained and will most likely end up being regarded in the same way as Wendy once she gets to really show off Haerin in NewJennies clearly has immense vocal talent, even without showing much range yet. her runs and riffs are soooo smooth though Yeah I’ve noticed how majority of this thread tries to create a narrative that HYBE does not have any vocal talent or just tries to flat out ignore the vocalists in their groups, both ggs and bgs. i mean half of Seventeen itself can outsing their fave groups from other companies so a little awareness could help these people me thinks
Narima Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 the fraud in MAMA voting is this mnet's doing or fans'?
Narima Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, Narima said: the fraud in MAMA voting is this mnet's doing or fans'? just saw this
Dialamba Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, Narima said: the fraud in MAMA voting is this mnet's doing or fans'? What fraud ? Their fans can’t vote. 32 minutes ago, Witnessed ET said: Yeah I’ve noticed how majority of this thread tries to create a narrative that HYBE does not have any vocal talent or just tries to flat out ignore the vocalists in their groups, both ggs and bgs. i mean half of Seventeen itself can outsing their fave groups from other companies so a little awareness could help these people me thinks That’s not thanks to Hybe at all. Except for TXT & Enhypen, all HYBE groups have at least 1-2 competent singers. 1 hour ago, Lost In Paradise said: this narrative that neither of the HYBE new GGs can sing needs to end NOW LSF Yunjin is literally classically trained and will most likely end up being regarded in the same way as Wendy once she gets to really show off Haerin in NewJennies clearly has immense vocal talent, even without showing much range yet. her runs and riffs are soooo smooth though Yeah, she can’t showcase her real skills even Chaewon is quite good. but Haerin isn’t better than hanni and Danielle.
Lost In Paradise Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 it's so funny seeing such heated conversation about BP in this thread, from both sides (haters and Blinks). this whole roll-out, album and tour has been so boring to me...like where do you get the fire to go to bat or to bash these girls? where are the new, experimental sounds? where's the personality besides "I'm a bad *****" (which Roseanne is clearly sick of) HYLT, Lovesick Girls, COY, Pretty Savage outro >>>>>>> Boring Pink
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