fan base K-Pop Thread: 2022 Archive

[Mitsuki]

If someone told me 2 months ago they would win this 4Q, I wouldn't believe 

 

 

 

 

[Mitsuki]

7 hours ago, xrosup said:

 

 

Kings. I can't wait for the SKZ-Records/Player album, I want to be able to listen to Drive on Spotify

 

The taste, Drive is one of my favorite SKZ-Player/Record. 

 

I also want this masterpiece on Spotify. Changbin went ALL IN 

 

 

This is better than many songs in their disco for me. 

[IamCY]

37 minutes ago, Xalric said:

Fun Fact about I-DLE, Soyeon said cube rejected most of their most successful songs

Hann was rejected from their debut album but made it as a digital single.
Hwa, Tomboy & Nxde were all not accepted by cube at first. She had to defend the songs and concept.

 

can you guess which song cube pushed Soyeon to write and gave her the sample to use, the members even almost didn't do it on their tour because they simply don't like the song that much...

 

 

Cube their taste, this is by far their best song >>> 

[Dialamba]

3 hours ago, Arthoe said:

From like a viewpoint of maximizing earnings... Cube handled this the best way possible, letting Soojin dig her own grave and then publically kicking her out is literally the only reason why (G)I-DLE is a top GG rn, despite them being otherwise inept with the functions of a company managing their group. Matter of fact, I don't think they expected this reaction towards (G)I-DLE after the bullying scandal at all, I think they just struck Gold by chance in terms of handling the situation

 

Neither Tomboy, nor Nxde would have hit it as big if Soojin was still in the group. Same goes to Anti-Fragile and Le Sserafim, Hybe has been following the Cube Print in handling the controversy very closely and it worked out perfectly as well. If the Korean public has made their decision on your character, and it's negative, your group is f*cked unless they publically sacrifice you. And I honestly think that there are gonna be a lot new groups from bigger companies that will purposefully try to recreate a scandal like this (matter of fact, I think Hybe orchestrated this and sacrificed Garam on purpose, despite them knowing about her past)

 

Like... just look how much ITZY struggled to get a hit again for holding on to Lia. 

They didn’t have a big hit since wannabe. What does Lia have to do with it.  

[Britney Jean]

1 hour ago, Xalric said:

Fun Fact about I-DLE, Soyeon said cube rejected most of their most successful songs

Hann was rejected from their debut album but made it as a digital single.
Hwa, Tomboy & Nxde were all not accepted by cube at first. She had to defend the songs and concept.

 

can you guess which song cube pushed Soyeon to write and gave her the sample to use, the members even almost didn't do it on their tour because they simply don't like the song that much...

 

 

Soyeon the best negotiator in KPOP 

[Mitsuki]

 

Only Baekhyun (and Lay?) left I guess 

 

 

[hallucinate]

3 hours ago, Arthoe said:

From like a viewpoint of maximizing earnings... Cube handled this the best way possible, letting Soojin dig her own grave and then publically kicking her out is literally the only reason why (G)I-DLE is a top GG rn, despite them being otherwise inept with the functions of a company managing their group. Matter of fact, I don't think they expected this reaction towards (G)I-DLE after the bullying scandal at all, I think they just struck Gold by chance in terms of handling the situation

 

Neither Tomboy, nor Nxde would have hit it as big if Soojin was still in the group. Same goes to Anti-Fragile and Le Sserafim, Hybe has been following the Cube Print in handling the controversy very closely and it worked out perfectly as well. If the Korean public has made their decision on your character, and it's negative, your group is f*cked unless they publically sacrifice you. And I honestly think that there are gonna be a lot new groups from bigger companies that will purposefully try to recreate a scandal like this (matter of fact, I think Hybe orchestrated this and sacrificed Garam on purpose, despite them knowing about her past)

 

Like... just look how much ITZY struggled to get a hit again for holding on to Lia. 

from that point of view you’re absolutely right but i feel bad for soojin honestly 

 

1 hour ago, Cotton said:

RV about to release yet another mini album  

can’t believe their last full album was like 5 years ago 

[Adama]

12 hours ago, Pluto2022 said:

Speaking of IVE, where are their stans, cause I hardy see them anywhere?  I feel like they are mostly carried by the GP and casual Kpop fans, and once they get overexposed and release a bad song, it's gonna be over for them maybe? The way people keep saying "it-girl this and it-girl that" about Wonyoung, but I hardly see any actual Wonyoung stans?? I might be wrong, but I feel like other rookie groups like NewJennies and LE SSERAFIM have way bigger fandoms? Like I feel like I keep seeing Minji and Yunjin stans everywhere 

It’s a mix of both, a lot of casual listeners in SEA and the West who streams on Spotify and Yt. IVE are big on Tik tok too(Dear Cupid)!  Most of IVE dedicated fans are from China, Japan and SK. People who aren’t loud on twitter but who buy albums and merch. Which is what matters. 

Also Im seeing more and more Rei and Liz Stans on twitter. 

I don’t think LSRFM is bigger than IVE fandom. NJ maybe but we will see in December

 

Anyways almost 3 millions in 1 year and without a global distributor. It’s insane actually 

 

 

[Billionaire]

ITZY weren't getting hits because the music was bad, not because of Lia   I used to think that too but Sneakers was a smash so the rumors probably didn't play a big part in the performance of their post-Wannabe songs 

[Billionaire]

12 hours ago, Pluto2022 said:

Speaking of IVE, where are their stans, cause I hardy see them anywhere?  I feel like they are mostly carried by the GP and casual Kpop fans, and once they get overexposed and release a bad song, it's gonna be over for them maybe? The way people keep saying "it-girl this and it-girl that" about Wonyoung, but I hardly see any actual Wonyoung stans?? I might be wrong, but I feel like other rookie groups like NewJennies and LE SSERAFIM have way bigger fandoms? Like I feel like I keep seeing Minji and Yunjin stans everywhere 

Both NJ & LSFM have the benefit of having HYBE stans on their side who are quickly catching up to SM Sheep as the most annoying company stans in KPOP.

 

Wonyoung stans are everywhere though I'm not sure where you're looking 

Edited November 3, 2022 by Billionaire

[Ghiles]

Was it honestly the best?
'Cause I just wanna see the next
부지런히 지나온
어제들 속에 참 아름답게

Yeah, the past was honestly the best
But my best is what comes next
I'm not playin', nah, for sure

 

Does anyone know what the **** they are talking about it sounds like they just wanted to rhyme best with next badly

[Adama]

1 minute ago, Billionaire said:

Both NJ & LSFM have the benefit of having HYBE stans on their stans who are quickly catching up to SM Sheep as the most annoying company stans in KPOP

Fr, also let’s not forget about JYP Stans bc how in earth NMIXX is able to have such a dedicated fanbase despite their awful music? 
 

 

 

[Mitsuki]

6 minutes ago, Billionaire said:

ITZY weren't getting hits because the music was bad, not because of Lia   I used to think that too but Sneakers was a smash so the rumors probably didn't play a big part in the performance of their post-Wannabe songs 

And the music isn't the problem either to this extent. Unless you think Sneakers is better than Loco or Not Shy... 

[Mitsuki]

Lia's bullying rumours came to the light february, 2021. Back then, JYP denied, informed they would be suing and everyone moved on. They released Mafia and It had a better performance on the first few days and a similar performance in the long run to Not Shy, which was released before the rumours. So It didn't affected anything. 

 

Months later, the lawsuit results were out and It said Lia 'lost' due to lack of evidence to prove her innocence and that the accuser had intentions to cause any difamation. What is not really surprising, It's hard to prove you didn't do something on school when you are already an adult. 

 

It had a small fuss, but not to the extent people think It did. Her case was actually kind of nugu. 

 

In theory, the only comeback left to it cause any harm would be 'Loco', since they got a hit in the following release. But I doubt It was because of Lia. It was because lack of brand power due to JYP moving the attention of ITZY's management to international market, lack of individual promotion for the members, releases on friday without them being a well stabilized group in Korea and the rise of female groups doing exactly what they were lacking to switch the attention. 

[paperfectdelusion]

I don’t think the bullia scandal hurt ITZY at all in Korean tbh! Despite they got multiple hits none of them had became IT girl and they’re nowhere to be seen at those brand ranking charts or so, which indicates Koreans just don’t care them personally (but Koreans do care about them musically so it’s kinda weird).

[rzal]

1 hour ago, Mitsuki said:

If someone told me 2 months ago they would win this 4Q, I wouldn't believe 

 

 

 

 

love skz but this is a nightmare! born pink deserved

[Adama]

9 minutes ago, paperfectdelusion said:

I don’t think the bullia scandal hurt ITZY at all in Korean tbh! Despite they got multiple hits none of them had became IT girl and they’re nowhere to be seen at those brand ranking charts or so, which indicates Koreans just don’t care them personally (but Koreans do care about them musically so it’s kinda weird).

I’m more concerned about their Spotify streams. They used to be the doing really good globally on Spotify but now their stats are bad for such a big group 

[Xalric]

23 minutes ago, Mitsuki said:

Lia's bullying rumours came to the light february, 2021. Back then, JYP denied, informed they would be suing and everyone moved on. They released Mafia and It had a better performance on the first few days and a similar performance in the long run to Not Shy, which was released before the rumours. So It didn't affected anything. 

 

Months later, the lawsuit results were out and It said Lia 'lost' due to lack of evidence to prove her innocence and that the accuser had intentions to cause any difamation. What is not really surprising, It's hard to prove you didn't do something on school when you are already an adult. 

 

It had a small fuss, but not to the extent people think It did. Her case was actually kind of nugu. 

 

In theory, the only comeback left to it cause any harm would be 'Loco', since they got a hit in the following release. But I doubt It was because of Lia. It was because lack of brand power due to JYP moving the attention of ITZY's management to international market, lack of individual promotion for the members, releases on friday without them being a well stabilized group in Korea and the rise of female groups doing exactly what they were lacking to switch the attention. 

T-ara had a huge hit during their rumours then after that their career plumeted.

[Mitsuki]

2 minutes ago, Xalric said:

T-ara had a huge hit during their rumours then after that their career plumeted.

There's literally no comparison between both and I'm not even talking only about the proportion. Hwayoung left the group and less than 2 months later they have the hit you are talking about. If ITZY was about to follow T-ARA steps, then Loco would be the bigger song than Sneakers and in the following year they would be already over in Korea. 

 

[CandyCoatedClouds]

59 minutes ago, Adama said:

It’s a mix of both, a lot of casual listeners in SEA and the West who streams on Spotify and Yt. IVE are big on Tik tok too(Dear Cupid)!  Most of IVE dedicated fans are from China, Japan and SK. People who aren’t loud on twitter but who buy albums and merch. Which is what matters. 

Also Im seeing more and more Rei and Liz Stans on twitter. 

I don’t think LSRFM is bigger than IVE fandom. NJ maybe but we will see in December

 

Anyways almost 3 millions in 1 year and without a global distributor. It’s insane actually 

 

 

That picture of them is so hideous.  They're all incredibly young but styled and dressed like girls from the 20s or something. Looks very old.

[Dialamba]

15 minutes ago, CandyCoatedClouds said:

That picture of them is so hideous.  They're all incredibly young but styled and dressed like girls from the 20s or something. Looks very old.

They need to steal STAYC mua and LSR stylist I fear 
 

 

1 hour ago, Mitsuki said:

And the music isn't the problem either to this extent. Unless you think Sneakers is better than Loco or Not Shy... 

sneakers was just Chaeryeong’s hard work.  This song charted worse than loco the first day. 

[Hitchhiker]

1 hour ago, Mitsuki said:

 

Only Baekhyun (and Lay?) left I guess 

 

 

Lay was in SK last week and we did not hear a peep of him (as most of the time any EXO is In SK) he’s probably in there too 

[Mitsuki]

9 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

sneakers was just Chaeryeong’s hard work.  This song charted worse than loco the first day. 

Exactly because of what I explain in the following comment, imo. Sneakers didn't do good because their brand power wasn't enough to carry a friday release and making people checking them out. It needed to go viral for people to notice they were there and released what could be an appealing song. 

[Mitsuki]

6 minutes ago, Hitchhiker said:

Lay was in SK last week and we did not hear a peep of him (as most of the time any EXO is In SK) he’s probably in there too 

Oh, you are right, I forgot about him in Korea. 

 

[discreetinside]

53 minutes ago, Adama said:

It’s a mix of both, a lot of casual listeners in SEA and the West who streams on Spotify and Yt. IVE are big on Tik tok too(Dear Cupid)!  Most of IVE dedicated fans are from China, Japan and SK. People who aren’t loud on twitter but who buy albums and merch. Which is what matters. 

Also Im seeing more and more Rei and Liz Stans on twitter. 

I don’t think LSRFM is bigger than IVE fandom. NJ maybe but we will see in December

 

Anyways almost 3 millions in 1 year and without a global distributor. It’s insane actually 

 

 

Yeah IVE doesn't have global distributor for now other than Sony Music for their Japanese debut last few weeks.

 

As for the rumored December comeback, I remembered some girls saying Starship gonna replicate what they did during SISTAR rookie year like 3 single albums within a single year and a full studio album around 1 year after the group debut so it made sense from Starship POV since the formula was successfully worked on SISTAR and the said formula was working good for IVE as well so far. The only concern would be IVE are overworked especially for Wonyoung since she has Music Bank MC gigs. 

 

As for their mini/full album, I'm gonna guess the tracklist are likely consists of 4-5(?) new tracks, Queen of Hearts KR version, and the 6 tracks from their single albums or just 11-LD-AL.