Mel. Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 Just now, MusicFan98 said: It's november already, can we postpone the BP talk until 2024 if they make it past 2023 ofc BP will always be the topic of conversation.
Selenasworld Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 36 minutes ago, BTS said: Please he sounds great on the track. (Cause he left all the high notes to Chris Martin ) tell HYBE to invest in a TV-Web company instead
CandyCoatedClouds Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, harrythevifan said: For everyone that forgot, between the period of Blackpink's debut and aespa's debut, the only girl group debut that did anything was Iz*one. And it's not like those otakus grew out of it. Harry. Idle, Fromis and Itzy all debuted between that time frame... what do you mean only Izone were the only ones doing anything. Edited November 3, 2022 by CandyCoatedClouds
discreetinside Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 50 minutes ago, Selenasworld said: tell HYBE to invest in a TV-Web company instead And ask all the Hybe boy (pun intended) to at least starring on a BL series and kiss each other
Selenasworld Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 1 minute ago, discreetinside said: And ask all the Hybe boy (pun intended) to at least starring on a BL series and kiss each other Just Jin? maybe Yoongi x Jimin
discreetinside Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, Selenasworld said: Just Jin? maybe Yoongi x Jimin Well it could be anyone from BTS, TXT, Enhypen, 17, and even Trainee A
harrythevifan Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, CandyCoatedClouds said: Harry. Idle, Fromis and Itzy all debuted between that time frame... what do you mean only Izone were the only ones doing anything. Only debut to do anything, because of their fandom power. fromis' debut was as floppy as their show. And while Griddle's debut was a relative success, it was a success that got phase-shifted by the rise of Pentagon, and fell just as quickly with the Pube scandals. Not sure why it took hours for anyone to mention Itzy. Anyway, the point is Iz*one was a big deal, and the two principle members have the fans that do bot-like things, as was demonstrated in court.
Arthoe Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 7 hours ago, hallucinate said: iirc didn’t soojin refuse to apologize at first? the situation was handled poorly from the get go the way she would’ve slayed both tomboy and nxde From like a viewpoint of maximizing earnings... Cube handled this the best way possible, letting Soojin dig her own grave and then publically kicking her out is literally the only reason why (G)I-DLE is a top GG rn, despite them being otherwise inept with the functions of a company managing their group. Matter of fact, I don't think they expected this reaction towards (G)I-DLE after the bullying scandal at all, I think they just struck Gold by chance in terms of handling the situation Neither Tomboy, nor Nxde would have hit it as big if Soojin was still in the group. Same goes to Anti-Fragile and Le Sserafim, Hybe has been following the Cube Print in handling the controversy very closely and it worked out perfectly as well. If the Korean public has made their decision on your character, and it's negative, your group is f*cked unless they publically sacrifice you. And I honestly think that there are gonna be a lot new groups from bigger companies that will purposefully try to recreate a scandal like this (matter of fact, I think Hybe orchestrated this and sacrificed Garam on purpose, despite them knowing about her past) Like... just look how much ITZY struggled to get a hit again for holding on to Lia.
Cotton Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) RV about to release yet another mini album Edited November 3, 2022 by Cotton
paperfectdelusion Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 That MAMA voting is a MESS Brave Girls, LOONA and Dreamcatcher above BP/ Twice
Xalric Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 Fun Fact about I-DLE, Soyeon said cube rejected most of their most successful songs Hann was rejected from their debut album but made it as a digital single. Hwa, Tomboy & Nxde were all not accepted by cube at first. She had to defend the songs and concept. can you guess which song cube pushed Soyeon to write and gave her the sample to use, the members even almost didn't do it on their tour because they simply don't like the song that much...
Mitsuki Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 If someone told me 2 months ago they would win this 4Q, I wouldn't believe
Mitsuki Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 7 hours ago, xrosup said: Kings. I can't wait for the SKZ-Records/Player album, I want to be able to listen to Drive on Spotify The taste, Drive is one of my favorite SKZ-Player/Record. I also want this masterpiece on Spotify. Changbin went ALL IN This is better than many songs in their disco for me.
IamCY Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 37 minutes ago, Xalric said: Fun Fact about I-DLE, Soyeon said cube rejected most of their most successful songs Hann was rejected from their debut album but made it as a digital single. Hwa, Tomboy & Nxde were all not accepted by cube at first. She had to defend the songs and concept. can you guess which song cube pushed Soyeon to write and gave her the sample to use, the members even almost didn't do it on their tour because they simply don't like the song that much... Cube their taste, this is by far their best song >>>
Dialamba Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Arthoe said: From like a viewpoint of maximizing earnings... Cube handled this the best way possible, letting Soojin dig her own grave and then publically kicking her out is literally the only reason why (G)I-DLE is a top GG rn, despite them being otherwise inept with the functions of a company managing their group. Matter of fact, I don't think they expected this reaction towards (G)I-DLE after the bullying scandal at all, I think they just struck Gold by chance in terms of handling the situation Neither Tomboy, nor Nxde would have hit it as big if Soojin was still in the group. Same goes to Anti-Fragile and Le Sserafim, Hybe has been following the Cube Print in handling the controversy very closely and it worked out perfectly as well. If the Korean public has made their decision on your character, and it's negative, your group is f*cked unless they publically sacrifice you. And I honestly think that there are gonna be a lot new groups from bigger companies that will purposefully try to recreate a scandal like this (matter of fact, I think Hybe orchestrated this and sacrificed Garam on purpose, despite them knowing about her past) Like... just look how much ITZY struggled to get a hit again for holding on to Lia. They didn’t have a big hit since wannabe. What does Lia have to do with it.
Britney Jean Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Xalric said: Fun Fact about I-DLE, Soyeon said cube rejected most of their most successful songs Hann was rejected from their debut album but made it as a digital single. Hwa, Tomboy & Nxde were all not accepted by cube at first. She had to defend the songs and concept. can you guess which song cube pushed Soyeon to write and gave her the sample to use, the members even almost didn't do it on their tour because they simply don't like the song that much... Soyeon the best negotiator in KPOP
hallucinate Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Arthoe said: From like a viewpoint of maximizing earnings... Cube handled this the best way possible, letting Soojin dig her own grave and then publically kicking her out is literally the only reason why (G)I-DLE is a top GG rn, despite them being otherwise inept with the functions of a company managing their group. Matter of fact, I don't think they expected this reaction towards (G)I-DLE after the bullying scandal at all, I think they just struck Gold by chance in terms of handling the situation Neither Tomboy, nor Nxde would have hit it as big if Soojin was still in the group. Same goes to Anti-Fragile and Le Sserafim, Hybe has been following the Cube Print in handling the controversy very closely and it worked out perfectly as well. If the Korean public has made their decision on your character, and it's negative, your group is f*cked unless they publically sacrifice you. And I honestly think that there are gonna be a lot new groups from bigger companies that will purposefully try to recreate a scandal like this (matter of fact, I think Hybe orchestrated this and sacrificed Garam on purpose, despite them knowing about her past) Like... just look how much ITZY struggled to get a hit again for holding on to Lia. from that point of view you’re absolutely right but i feel bad for soojin honestly 1 hour ago, Cotton said: RV about to release yet another mini album can’t believe their last full album was like 5 years ago
Adama Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 12 hours ago, Pluto2022 said: Speaking of IVE, where are their stans, cause I hardy see them anywhere? I feel like they are mostly carried by the GP and casual Kpop fans, and once they get overexposed and release a bad song, it's gonna be over for them maybe? The way people keep saying "it-girl this and it-girl that" about Wonyoung, but I hardly see any actual Wonyoung stans?? I might be wrong, but I feel like other rookie groups like NewJennies and LE SSERAFIM have way bigger fandoms? Like I feel like I keep seeing Minji and Yunjin stans everywhere It’s a mix of both, a lot of casual listeners in SEA and the West who streams on Spotify and Yt. IVE are big on Tik tok too(Dear Cupid)! Most of IVE dedicated fans are from China, Japan and SK. People who aren’t loud on twitter but who buy albums and merch. Which is what matters. Also Im seeing more and more Rei and Liz Stans on twitter. I don’t think LSRFM is bigger than IVE fandom. NJ maybe but we will see in December Anyways almost 3 millions in 1 year and without a global distributor. It’s insane actually
Billionaire Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 ITZY weren't getting hits because the music was bad, not because of Lia I used to think that too but Sneakers was a smash so the rumors probably didn't play a big part in the performance of their post-Wannabe songs
Billionaire Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Pluto2022 said: Speaking of IVE, where are their stans, cause I hardy see them anywhere? I feel like they are mostly carried by the GP and casual Kpop fans, and once they get overexposed and release a bad song, it's gonna be over for them maybe? The way people keep saying "it-girl this and it-girl that" about Wonyoung, but I hardly see any actual Wonyoung stans?? I might be wrong, but I feel like other rookie groups like NewJennies and LE SSERAFIM have way bigger fandoms? Like I feel like I keep seeing Minji and Yunjin stans everywhere Both NJ & LSFM have the benefit of having HYBE stans on their side who are quickly catching up to SM Sheep as the most annoying company stans in KPOP. Wonyoung stans are everywhere though I'm not sure where you're looking Edited November 3, 2022 by Billionaire
Ghiles Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 Was it honestly the best? 'Cause I just wanna see the next 부지런히 지나온 어제들 속에 참 아름답게 Yeah, the past was honestly the best But my best is what comes next I'm not playin', nah, for sure Does anyone know what the **** they are talking about it sounds like they just wanted to rhyme best with next badly
Adama Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Billionaire said: Both NJ & LSFM have the benefit of having HYBE stans on their stans who are quickly catching up to SM Sheep as the most annoying company stans in KPOP Fr, also let’s not forget about JYP Stans bc how in earth NMIXX is able to have such a dedicated fanbase despite their awful music?
Mitsuki Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, Billionaire said: ITZY weren't getting hits because the music was bad, not because of Lia I used to think that too but Sneakers was a smash so the rumors probably didn't play a big part in the performance of their post-Wannabe songs And the music isn't the problem either to this extent. Unless you think Sneakers is better than Loco or Not Shy...
Mitsuki Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 Lia's bullying rumours came to the light february, 2021. Back then, JYP denied, informed they would be suing and everyone moved on. They released Mafia and It had a better performance on the first few days and a similar performance in the long run to Not Shy, which was released before the rumours. So It didn't affected anything. Months later, the lawsuit results were out and It said Lia 'lost' due to lack of evidence to prove her innocence and that the accuser had intentions to cause any difamation. What is not really surprising, It's hard to prove you didn't do something on school when you are already an adult. It had a small fuss, but not to the extent people think It did. Her case was actually kind of nugu. In theory, the only comeback left to it cause any harm would be 'Loco', since they got a hit in the following release. But I doubt It was because of Lia. It was because lack of brand power due to JYP moving the attention of ITZY's management to international market, lack of individual promotion for the members, releases on friday without them being a well stabilized group in Korea and the rise of female groups doing exactly what they were lacking to switch the attention.
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