wish Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 24 minutes ago, Century said: english kpop gg discourse is so weird aespa has the biggest album by a 4th gen act and one of the biggest releases for girl groups of all time with Girls. period. This was less than 6 months ago. Next Level was 17 months ago and one of the biggest girl group singles of 4th gen. aespa are at the current moment, by far the biggest 4th gen girl group and one of the top 3/4 gen 4 groups period. NJ will probably join or surpass them in time too and this thread will switch on them when that happens. Almost none of you like many boy groups and love stanning gg superiority right up until they start actually competing with their male counterparts on sales or tours and then you switch. Like a few of you that are active in this thread trashing aespa are the same people who were acting this way about SNSD when we were literal CHILDREN on other forums. Get a different hobby if you hate the appealing and/or popular aspects of kpop so much. The people y'all said were the real 2nd gen leader ggs dont release anymore and can't chart when they do, you'd think at some point you'd learn your lesson. It reeks of a weird contrarian/underdog complex but that makes no sense because the girls that are always pit against the actually successful girls also come from massive, well funded labels in 9/10 cases. Aespa tanked
Sheep Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 18 minutes ago, wish said: Aespa tanked aespas most recent release is bigger than any other 4th gen album
cloudbusting Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 stop fighting and stream excellence instead
applestar Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 43 minutes ago, Century said: english kpop gg discourse is so weird aespa has the biggest album by a 4th gen act and one of the biggest releases for girl groups of all time with Girls. period. This was less than 6 months ago. Next Level was 17 months ago and one of the biggest girl group singles of 4th gen. aespa are at the current moment, by far the biggest 4th gen girl group and one of the top 3/4 gen 4 groups period. NJ will probably join or surpass them in time too and this thread will switch on them when that happens. Almost none of you like many boy groups and love stanning gg superiority right up until they start actually competing with their male counterparts on sales or tours and then you switch. Like a few of you that are active in this thread trashing aespa are the same people who were acting this way about SNSD when we were literal CHILDREN on other forums. Get a different hobby if you hate the appealing and/or popular aspects of kpop so much. The people y'all said were the real 2nd gen leader ggs dont release anymore and can't chart when they do, you'd think at some point you'd learn your lesson. It reeks of a weird contrarian/underdog complex but that makes no sense because the girls that are always pit against the actually successful girls also come from massive, well funded labels in 9/10 cases. they only like ggs when they're uncompetitive nugus (weeekly, everglow, stayc), f(x) ripoff big 3 underdog groups that will never gain extreme success (rv, itzy), or when they are hags that don't release at all (soshi) this is the insanity that's brought by not stanning the best kpop group, weishenv. newjennies and the kda tribute act will rise, wonyoung and sakuras groups will have mid offs, and we will wait until lee soo man brings lookass back
MusicFan98 Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 2 hours ago, PowerGarlic said: It was a joke because that Twitter account is rv/ae fan and not even StayC fan like go worry about your faves and the consistency of comeback please StayC is fine. Why should an aespa stan worry?? StayC is the group whose career is hanging by a thread, Stereotype and BM flopping is a bad omen, I mean flops like Zimzalabim or Girls are expected, those songs are experimental, Next Level or I Got A Boy or Step Back smashing are totally unexpected but flopping with basic ass songs that are digestible and made to smash is worrying, imagine if IVE flopped with a song like Love Dive or NJ flopping with Hype Boy
fauxtography Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Century said: The 2nd gen girl trinity has still yet to be topped. GG, 2NE1, and 4minute? Yes I think you’re right!
dlwlrma Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) when people are listening an artist doesn't mean they are staning them Stayc never had a big fandom, they aren't Aespa if the song is not clicking with the general kpop fans, ofc no one will talk about lol when someone like a song and then the next one sucks they have the rights to """"drop""""" the artist if they want "b b but they need money" sorry buy their problem you cant force people stuck with them just because they were bopping with some songs everyone acting like it was different back in the days when actually just Twice BP and RV had big fandoms even Mamamoo the hype around was more about the song reception than their brand and look 4th gen Aespa, ITZY, IVE and Le Serafim all have established fandoms internationally already let's see NJ too bad StayC couldn't make it Edited October 31, 2022 by dlwlrma
Selenasworld Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 Why y'all lied and said Seulgi's mini is bad? i was missing
Selenasworld Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 2 hours ago, dlwlrma said: when people are listening an artist doesn't mean they are staning them Stayc never had a big fandom, they aren't Aespa if the song is not clicking with the general kpop fans, ofc no one will talk about lol when someone like a song and then the next one sucks they have the rights to """"drop""""" the artist if they want "b b but they need money" sorry buy their problem you cant force people stuck with them just because they were bopping with some songs everyone acting like it was different back in the days when actually just Twice BP and RV had big fandoms even Mamamoo the hype around was more about the song reception than their brand and look 4th gen Aespa, ITZY, IVE and Le Serafim all have established fandoms internationally already let's see NJ too bad StayC couldn't make it so basically StayC is relying on Korea instead on international fans a la Dreamcatcher and LOONA
sunmimi imfurst Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 As to be expected. A shame it was their seventh anniversary event and halloween themed. I wonder if they reschedule.
Adama Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 9 hours ago, PowerGarlic said: The fact that we had FOUR 4th gen groups cracked melon top 5 this year compared to only one group last year like can’t we just let them doing well together instead worrying about dropping this dropping that. It’s actually SIX 4th gens gg if I’m not mistaken StayC : R2U g idle: Tomboy/ nuxdes (since they are from the 4th gen) IVE: love dive/after like Itzy: Sneakers NJ: Attention/ hype boy LSRFM: Antifragile
Winmill De Kwynn Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 24 minutes ago, Adama said: It’s actually SIX 4th gens gg if I’m not mistaken StayC : R2U g idle: Tomboy/ nuxdes (since they are from the 4th gen) IVE: love dive/after like Itzy: Sneakers NJ: Attention/ hype boy LSRFM: Antifragile Can Korean decide to give a chance to AAA girls too I want them to succeed
paperfectdelusion Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 StayC needs more than a good song to back on track I fear The girls are having little to none exposure outside their regular comeback and some corporate gigs... meanwhile NJ/ IVE and even formis_9 are releasing contents, showing up on variety shows etc etc but NADA for Stayc So why would someone stan StayC at the first place?
fais_2311 Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 StayC album sales continued to rise for each comeback. They have solid fanbase. When their album sales become static or dropped like Gfriend, Mamamoo & Oh My Girl, then ya’ll can celebrate 4th gen gg tiers (based on digital & physical) IVE, g-idle, aespa ITZY, LSRFM, NewJeans StayC Nmixx, Kep1er Loona, fromis_9 Weeekly, Billie, Everglow Others
fais_2311 Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Adama said: It’s actually SIX 4th gens gg if I’m not mistaken StayC : R2U g idle: Tomboy/ nuxdes (since they are from the 4th gen) IVE: love dive/after like Itzy: Sneakers NJ: Attention/ hype boy LSRFM: Antifragile Wait… aespa has zero Top 5 this year Even SM hags (SNSD & RV) scored a top 5 song this year. Edited October 31, 2022 by fais_2311
paddii_ Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 8 hours ago, newuser said: I doubt they care more about music show wins than chart performance. Plus the only reason they are not winning is Ghad being the moment in Korea right now
Adama Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, fais_2311 said: Wait… aespa has no Melon Top 5 this year Even SM hags (SNSD & RV) scored a top 5 song this year. DCT peaked at #7 I think 10 minutes ago, paperfectdelusion said: StayC needs more than a good song to back on track I fear The girls are having little to none exposure outside their regular comeback and some corporate gigs... meanwhile NJ/ IVE and even formis_9 are releasing contents, showing up on variety shows etc etc but NADA for Stayc So why would someone stan StayC at the first place? Fr, even if BEP are well know, they’re still a new company who don’t have half of the ressources, the budget and the connections compared to these agencies considered mid like Starship and Cube (and let’s not start with big labels like JYP, SM and HYBE). Also yeah, StayC is not present on the medias. They barely does solo jobs, don’t attends events, don’t have fashion deals, aren’t invited on varieties etc… Stayc still don’t have a real FOTG, an It girl/popular visual. Like even if the mnet beef is over I’m not sure that they’re going to be invited to the MAMA this year .
fais_2311 Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 Glass Bead #25 Me Gustas Tu #8 Rough #1 Navillera #1 Fingertip #2 Love Whisper #2 Summer Rain #11 Time for the Moon Night #2 Sunny Summer #11 Sunrise #12 Fever #27 Crossroads #32 Apple #54 Mago #42 DISBAND The downfall. And they were struggling with physical sales too
paperfectdelusion Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Adama said: Fr, even if BEP are well know, they’re still a new company who don’t have half of the ressources, the budget and the connections compared to these agencies considered mid like Starship and Cube (and let’s not start with big labels like JYP, SM and HYBE). Also yeah, StayC is not present on the medias. They barely does solo jobs, don’t attends events, don’t have fashion deals, aren’t invited on varieties etc… Stayc still don’t have a real FOTG, an It girl/popular visual. Like even if the mnet beef is over I’m not sure that they’re going to be invited to the MAMA this year . Wait why they beefing with Mnet isn't they a new company
Companion Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 6 hours ago, wish said: Aespa tanked I think it isn't too late to put NingNing to Le Sserafim. She'd be a great fit
DanyelP23 Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 Astro’s Rocky is aparently in a relationship with actress Park Bo Yeon (they starred together in the series Find me if you can,2021). Her side denied and said they were good friends, Fantagio admitted and said they have good feelings between eachother
Chemist Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 36 minutes ago, fais_2311 said: Time for the Moon Night #2 A song
Adama Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, paperfectdelusion said: Wait why they beefing with Mnet isn't they a new company Mnet (CJ ENM) used to own a part of High up but idk what happened but the company switched to Kakao. That’s why StayC used to not promote on Mnet 39 minutes ago, DanyelP23 said: Astro’s Rocky is aparently in a relationship with actress Park Bo Yeon (they starred together in the series Find me if you can,2021). Her side denied and said they were good friends, Fantagio admitted and said they have good feelings between eachother Ofc she denied
harrythevifan Posted October 31, 2022 Posted October 31, 2022 18 minutes ago, Adama said: Mnet (CJ ENM) used to own a part of High up but idk what happened but the company switched to Kakao. That’s why StayC used to not promote on Mnet It wasn't StayC's company specifically, but all the Kakao owned companies were not appearing on Mnet for a several months. And it was never revealed why. Possibly, it was related to Mnet announcing that their Universe kpop app would be developed by NCSoft, who is a direct Kakao competitor. Also at that time there were Izone negotiations that Starship would be in the middle of. Whatever it was, it didn't take long to be resolved, and the Kakao acts have been all over Mnet ever since.
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