Pluto6 Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, BellKat said: BTS debut - BTS breakthrough the US Interestingly enough, this is a very convenient period of time because gives many groups a chance to become "the best" within 4th gen Otherwise they will have to compete with the BTSs, the Blackpinks, theTWICEs, etc and they wouldn't be able to claim those titles that easily. I don't think the industry actively pushed for this division (or they did?) but fans did latch at it because it was the most convenient I am not discrediting 4th gen cuz my faves are bringing so much of that missing charm that was lacking from 3rd gen GGs lately, I am just describing what I see. I feel like 4th gen started early due to Kpop blowing up globally between 2017-2018, and this automatically resulted in Kpop going into a new era, which is the global era of Kpop that we are in right now. All these groups that debuted during this new global era which started around late 2017 are considered 4th gen. The thing that separates 3rd and 4th gen is that 3rd gen is viewed as the generation that made Kpop global as it is today, while 4th gen are viewed as the generation that is benefitting from this new global popularity from debut, compared to the previous generations. Like look at how all of these 4th gen rookies stomping right now compared to when 3rd gen groups debuted. Edited October 30, 2022 by Pluto2022
illia Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) so apparently SKZ is 3rd gen? lmao only on ATRL Edited October 30, 2022 by Flomik
discreetinside Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Adama said: They debuted in 2018, how can they be considered 4th gen lol ?? The Gayz are considered 4th Gen group despite debut on December 2017 a month before turning into 2018. Both Gidle and Iz*One debuted on the same year with Stray Kids and they're considered 4th Gen group so it doesn't made sense to doubt any of them are 4th Gen group.
discreetinside Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 3rd Gen start around 2012 the year Gangnam Style gone viral gobally and groups (BGs at least) that start to emphasize on highly synchronized choreography performances like BAP and EXO debuted. Not to mention 2012 was known to have the most Kpop acts debuted in a single year so people retroactively realized the new era of Kpop is coming. Edited October 30, 2022 by discreetinside
Adama Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, BellKat said: BTS debut - BTS breakthrough the US Interestingly enough, this is a very convenient period of time because gives many groups a chance to become "the best" within 4th gen Otherwise they will have to compete with the BTSs, the Blackpinks, theTWICEs, etc and they wouldn't be able to claim those titles that easily. I don't think the industry actively pushed for this division (or they did?) but fans did latch at it because it was the most convenient I am not discrediting 4th gen cuz my faves are bringing so much of that missing charm that was lacking from 3rd gen GGs lately, I am just describing what I see. Same thoughts. It’s only bc otherwise some groups can’t have these achievements… These groups are from the 3.5 gen imo 39 minutes ago, discreetinside said: The Gayz are considered 4th Gen group despite debut on December 2017 a month before turning into 2018. Both Gidle and Iz*One debuted on the same year with Stray Kids and they're considered 4th Gen group so it doesn't made sense to doubt any of them are 4th Gen group. So it means that group like Ive and Newjeans are from the 5th gen then bc they literally have a 4 years gap with G idle/Stray kids when they only have less than 2 years gap with BP Edited October 30, 2022 by Adama
Blank Space Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) why is this the best k-pop song ever. it sounds like blackoutney and kurt cobain had a baby. the performance and choreography is absolutely fantastic too. they're eons ahead every other k-pop group. Edited October 31, 2022 by Blank Space
Fanta Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Blank Space said: why is this the best k-pop song ever. it sounds like blackoutney and kurt cobain had a baby. the performance and choreography is absolutely fantastic too. they're eons ahead every other k-pop group. Wait maybe you’re onto something… maybe I don’t hate every HYBE BG like I thought I did. Edited October 30, 2022 by Fanta
Pluto6 Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Adama said: So it means that group like Ive and Newjeans are from the 5th gen then bc they literally have a 4 years gap with G idle/Stray kids when they only have less than 2 years gap with BP You can say the same thing about every generation though? Super Junior debuted in 2005, while SISTAR debuted in 2010, but both Super Junior and SISTAR are 2nd gen even though EXO only debuted 2 years after SISTAR. Edited October 30, 2022 by Pluto2022
Shou7 Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 1:36 AM, getinthezone said: Eunchae's voice is kinda pissing me off It was so bewildering to me that ppl were more bothered by lovey lovey dovey than LIIIOOOOONNNNN on release
xrosup Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 5 hours ago, Pluto2022 said: Global Kids 5 hours ago, Mitsuki said: The title tracks they released since 2020 charting 4th gen leaders doing leader things
Mitsuki Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 34 minutes ago, Flomik said: STAYC viral moment The facts here
New Edition Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 Not Korea turning the Itaewon tragedy into a war on Halloween and drugs. I feel like the next couple of weeks is going to be really bad with witch hunts. Netizens are already tearing apart any celeb who was at the event.
Billionaire Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Flomik said: STAYC viral moment yeah this is true to some extent. just last year aespa were being declared the 4th gen leaders, one underperforming song later and suddenly they're out of the race despite them pulling 1m this year and their discography as a whole still being consumed. even in this thread you had people saying ive were over the minute newjennies debuted...and this is a big reason why girl groups on average don't last as long as boy groups. this only seems like a phenomenon with 4th gen girl group stans because i never really came across many people who was hopping from group to group in 3rd gen. a certain user here comes to mind too, going from weeekly to ive to nmixx to le sserafim to newjeans like calm down Edited October 30, 2022 by Billionaire
Witnessed ET Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, New Edition said: Not Korea turning the Itaewon tragedy into a war on Halloween and drugs. I feel like the next couple of weeks is going to be really bad with witch hunts. Netizens are already tearing apart any celeb who was at the event. Came here to say this. Everytime a tragedy happens in that country, it’s twisted into something political instead of being sympathetic to the victims and their families. Same thing happened with the Sewol Ferry tragedy.
hallucinate Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 starting to think that since so many new groups are debuting that people don’t know which one to stan and hate that stayc is used as an example just because they had one dud
discreetinside Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Pluto2022 said: You can say the same thing about every generation though? Super Junior debuted in 2005, while SISTAR debuted in 2010, but both Super Junior and SISTAR are 2nd gen even though EXO only debuted 2 years after SISTAR. This may be unpopular opinion, but in reality I think Kpop generation was something like this: 1st Gen: 90s-early/mid 2000s (Really no idea on Gen 1, Kpop was kinda stagnant by early 2000s with soloists like BoA/Rain/Se7en smashing until TVXQ debut in late December 2003) 2nd Gen: 2004-2015 3rd Gen: 2012-2022 4th Gen: 2018-Present 2012-2015 and 2018-2022 was the transition period where older acts still smashing and newer acts were slowly establishing their popularity.
Companion Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 The way aespa concept went from cool to a joke in 2 years The lady gaga of kpop.
Companion Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 18 hours ago, Hay Amores said: I can't get into the AAA Generation song. The only thing that stick is the Lalalala part. This tbh. I gave Generation too many chances but it just not stick. The lalala part sounds heavenly tough but not enough to save the song
discreetinside Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 31 minutes ago, New Edition said: Not Korea turning the Itaewon tragedy into a war on Halloween and drugs. I feel like the next couple of weeks is going to be really bad with witch hunts. Netizens are already tearing apart any celeb who was at the event. Curious to see which idols and celebs are gonna dragged by Knetz
Dialamba Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 BM was just bad. They will come with their magnum opus next cb I can feel it. 26 minutes ago, PowerGarlic said: The gatekeep stanning just like that twit Are you guys only stan one group your whole career ? b-but that’s the point nothing wrong with stanning multiple GG but as soon one starts declined or become too big people switch on. like let’s not act people were acting as if LSRF was doomed and was just HYBE cash cow because the real HYBE GG was NJ !!! Now suddenly people stan them then they will drop them again once NJ comeback.
illia Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 I hope HYBE won't change Le Sserafim's concept simply because Antifragile has 0 wins they better check the charts and sales and keep making cvnt music!
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