fan base K-Pop Thread: 2022 Archive

[Zack]

4 minutes ago, harrythevifan said:

Kinda odd even after the success of Ive and Stayc and Weeekly they're still trying to convince Lee Sooman to take their billions so they can acquire SM Ent.

 

SM recently got called out for corporate governance issues, though more importantly I suspect it's because Kakao is not on board with KWANGYA and wants to ditch its originator

 

[DanyelP23]

7 minutes ago, Wake Up said:

Girl, Starship has the backing of Kakao which is richer and more powerful than Big 4 agencies combine

Neither Kakao, nor Starship, has company stans in the way that any of the BIG4 do. And a lot of groups are under Kakao, by this logic Weeekly, a GG under IST (formerly Play M, before merging with the THE BOYZ company, always under Kakao) would be more than a one hit wonder with 137k albums sold from 4 mini albums.

Don't tell me the Monsta X fans were ITCHYING to see what IVE was gonna serve when they debuted with Eleven.

 

[Dialamba]

16 minutes ago, Wake Up said:

Girl, Starship has the backing of Kakao which is richer and more powerful than Big 4 agencies combine

Richer, but doesn’t give the same exposure and privilege than the big4. Otherwise most of their groups would be million sellers and digimons

 

 

[Britney Jean]

2 hours ago, Xalric said:

 

It's getting more fair, even tho this last album Jieun & Ireh are eating DUST. Even Tho Jieun had her ONE moment in Oh My Gosh.

Yeah, the only song we can hear Jieun more 

[Wake Up]

14 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

Richer, but doesn’t give the same exposure and privilege than the big4. Otherwise most of their groups would be million sellers and digimons

 

 

Kakao is not just an entertainment company. Pushing music acts is not its only focus.
It provides community service, finance serve, invest service and many others. Melon is owned by Kakao. It has its own TV station and publishing company.

Kakao is like Sony or Samsung. Big 4 is like RCA Records or Columbia Records.

All Big 4 agencies work with and rely on Kakao to some extent because they need its channels to promote and publish. It’s stupid to say that Kakao gives less exposure and privilege than Big 4

Edited May 8, 2022 by Wake Up

[hallucinate]

yes IVE yes organic success

[Sugden]

i wonder if aespa is gonna flop on their next comeback now that they have all this competition and the ningning mess happened

 

[WhalieX]

7 minutes ago, DanyelP23 said:

Neither Kakao, nor Starship, has company stans in the way that any of the BIG4 do. And a lot of groups are under Kakao, by this logic Weeekly, a GG under IST (formerly Play M, before merging with the THE BOYZ company, always under Kakao) would be more than a one hit wonder with 137k albums sold from 4 mini albums.

Don't tell me the Monsta X fans were ITCHYING to see what IVE was gonna serve when they debuted with Eleven.

 

Hey, I was perched 

 

But yeah Starship doesn't have many company stans. Monsta X's debut album sold a thousand copies in the first week WJSN also was promoting their debut song for months to sell anything.

That's why they relied on Produce shows to bulid a fandom before debut and it worked with IVE. Cravity too but they are clearly very lost with them so they haven't build on it.

[BigBangStan]

1 minute ago, Sugden said:

i wonder if aespa is gonna flop on their next comeback now that they have all this competition and the ningning mess happened

 

Not happening

 

 

[Antunes]

when ive serves something like this for their japanese debut.... the impact, the collapse, the international implications etc

 

 

 

[DanyelP23]

Just started watching the JYPig x PSY audition show LOUD because I'm bored.

Not them making it like they were looking for GLOBAL stars/idols when TNX (the PNATION group that's gonna debut) is 6 koreans and from the 5 guys remaining at JYPE there's only 1 non korean trainee

[karlo_98]

Road to 100k ULs. They're coming 

 

[Wake Up]

8 minutes ago, BigBangStan said:

Not happening

 

 

OK. NL is a big hit we get it, but it’s not like they’ll get a NL for every comeback

Savage is a decline from NL digitally

[Dialamba]

Next level is a mega smash hit at this point they’re definitely not replicating its success as long they stay consistent that’s not really important. 

[ChatshireCat]

12 minutes ago, karlo_98 said:

Road to 100k ULs. They're coming 

 

[BigBangStan]

5 minutes ago, Wake Up said:

OK. NL is a big hit we get it, but it’s not like they’ll get a NL for every comeback

Savage is a decline from NL digitally

It's obvious they won't have a NL sized hit for their next comeback, but that is like saying Snsd were declining since they couldn't replicate the success of Gee

[Zack]

5 minutes ago, BigBangStan said:

It's obvious they won't have a NL sized hit for their next comeback, but that is like saying Snsd were declining since they couldn't replicate the success of Gee

Not to mention people continuously said this for years about RV after Red Flavor, but then Psycho happened. 

 

And even if Savage hasn't reached national hit status like NL, it's still a big hit by anyone's standard. "Decline" suggests something negative, but there's nothing  negative about Savage's chart performance. Dreams Come True also became a hit despite many people remaking/covering the song in the past. 

[Rhyme]

Hopefully SM scrapped Life's Too Short and any songs similar to it after it made nobody move.

[mokitsu]

 

this Fearless x Long Way to Go mashup

[Witnessed ET]

49 minutes ago, karlo_98 said:

Road to 100k ULs. They're coming 

 

Oh wow so they needed some promo to rise huh

[DanceFreak]

16 minutes ago, Rhyme said:

Hopefully SM scrapped Life's Too Short and any songs similar to it after it made nobody move.

They confirmed its a b-side

 

Also the people here bandwagoning IVE yall aint slick

[Witnessed ET]

IVE serving quality music, visuals, charisma and success. They’re doing everything right. 

[Rhyme]

2 minutes ago, DanceFreak said:

They confirmed its a b-side

 

Also the people here bandwagoning IVE yall aint slick

It being a b-side is a bad sign for their future music. It just gives me a bad feeling that SM thought it was good enough to be a preview at such a hyped event. They should just give those kind of songs to Red Velvet.

[The Prophecy]

 

[BTS]

9 hours ago, NeonTiger said:

Fearless flop for their standards 

What standards? It’s their debut