Michael196 Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 Also sorry, but enough with the white people, mixtape is guaranteed to have only white artists which makes the first four only white features, she barely has collabs with poc artists overall especially black artists and yes she started in country and doesn’t collaborate often but still the point stands. The only valid criticism about the Ice Spice feature was that it’s the first time she collaborates with a woman of color, I mean thank God she never associated mrs petty with her catalogue and it better stay that way, but there are countless other options.
Steve Johnson Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, Michael196 said: Also sorry, but enough with the white people, mixtape is guaranteed to have only white artists which makes the first four only white features, she barely has collabs with poc artists overall especially black artists and yes she started in country and doesn’t collaborate often but still the point stands. The only valid criticism about the Ice Spice feature was that it’s the first time she collaborates with a woman of color, I mean thank God she never associated mrs petty with her catalogue and it better stay that way, but there are countless other options. This Ice Spice remix isn't that good either. Taylor shines when she does solo work.
Peak Now Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 28 minutes ago, Michael196 said: Also sorry, but enough with the white people, mixtape is guaranteed to have only white artists which makes the first four only white features, she barely has collabs with poc artists overall especially black artists and yes she started in country and doesn’t collaborate often but still the point stands. The only valid criticism about the Ice Spice feature was that it’s the first time she collaborates with a woman of color, I mean thank God she never associated mrs petty with her catalogue and it better stay that way, but there are countless other options. We won't get that until Reputation I fear
Steve Johnson Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) I hope she scraps that Dua collab. Edited June 9, 2023 by Steve Johnson
Arrows Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 Is it completely delusional to think that TS11 could out-debut Midnights by quite a lot…? It seemed like her absolute peak at the time, but it feels like her power has grown a lot since. With the eras tour going global, the constantly viral discography and two breakups going into it, is TS11 set up for a massive debut? 1
Steve Johnson Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Arrows said: Is it completely delusional to think that TS11 could out-debut Midnights by quite a lot…? It seemed like her absolute peak at the time, but it feels like her power has grown a lot since. With the eras tour going global, the constantly viral discography and two breakups going into it, is TS11 set up for a massive debut? Globally for sure. US, idk.
wastedpotential Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Arrows said: Is it completely delusional to think that TS11 could out-debut Midnights by quite a lot…? It seemed like her absolute peak at the time, but it feels like her power has grown a lot since. With the eras tour going global, the constantly viral discography and two breakups going into it, is TS11 set up for a massive debut? I mean Taylor is basically at the point where she will sell every single vinyl she is able to press. If the numbers from Midnights stay the exact same for streaming, CD, and digital sales (440k SEA, 400k CDs, 200k digitals), and she doubles the number of vinyl to 1M, then that's a 2M debut right there. I don't think that's anything like a guarantee, but if TS11 comes before the end of Q1 2024, and if Taylor prepares enough physical copies for the first week, I think that number is possible in the US. As for globally, I think it's guaranteed. Her numbers in LatAm will be monster this time around, and I imagine her continued success and fame in Europe will help her do better there too. Midnights was the biggest international female debut in the UK since Born This Way (I think?), and I think it's totally possible for her to surpass that Edited June 9, 2023 by wastedpotential 1
Michael196 Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 https://twitter.com/misamericana/status/1666649473173315585?s=46&t=rYUUTlvwRkfScNCivt9NnA
LiamVillain Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 3 hours ago, vale9001 said: August got 10k shazams in 12 hours because of that trailer if you're asking yes it's huge. It's what a ww radio smash usually makes. Let'see if there is any impact on streaming (the song is already doing 1M daily btw). 10k streams comfirmed
vale9001 Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, simmnfierzig said: When did the trailer drop yesterday? It will certainly chart again on global Spotify either today or tomorrow When i wrote the message It was out from around 15 hours. There Is already an impact. +48 positions on Us Spotify with half a day of that trailer Edited June 9, 2023 by vale9001
LiamVillain Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 Cruel Summer: top 20 Spotify global top 25 Apple music global top 20 Spotify US top 30 Apple music US
vale9001 Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 She should release the orchestral remix of August from that trailer
queenoftheclouds Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 They way she sells Red as Pop is funny. 2/3 of the album are country and not pop
queenoftheclouds Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, vale9001 said: She should release the orchestral remix of August from that trailer No we want a 1989 TV song already with an album pre-order link.
vale9001 Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 Just now, queenoftheclouds said: No we want a 1989 TV song already with an album pre-order link. We have SN coming. Give her a rest 2
queenoftheclouds Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 1 minute ago, vale9001 said: We have SN coming. Give her a rest Not until we have 1989 TV and Reputation TV.
Achilles. Posted June 9, 2023 Author Posted June 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, queenoftheclouds said: They way she sells Red as Pop is funny. 2/3 of the album are country and not pop That is the correct label. Like 6/30 is actual country and the rest of the “country” songs are acoustic pop.
vale9001 Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Arrows said: Is it completely delusional to think that TS11 could out-debut Midnights by quite a lot…? It seemed like her absolute peak at the time, but it feels like her power has grown a lot since. With the eras tour going global, the constantly viral discography and two breakups going into it, is TS11 set up for a massive debut? Right now it would outsold midnights. But if her plan is speak now Plus 1989 plus reputation all in One year or so and then TS11 After few months then i don't think so. This Is why i want speak now now, ts11 in 2024 fall and then 1989 in 2025 summer. Or 1989 summer 2024 and TS 11 Summer 2025. Edited June 9, 2023 by vale9001
Great Username Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 https://classic.atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=658591&page=2095 That was a classic, that was a classic.
SpeakNowTv Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 maybe it's an unpopular opinion but i don't want her to release another album until she's done with the rerecordings
Great Username Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 https://classic.atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?p=24207176#24207176 I really had the tea. That was herstory.
vale9001 Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SpeakNowTv said: maybe it's an unpopular opinion but i don't want her to release another album until she's done with the rerecordings I don't want a pop tv (so 1989 or rep) before ts11. Cause they would definitely hurt it. Without those i'm ok for a new album next year. Edited June 9, 2023 by vale9001
Vespertine Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, Great Username said: https://classic.atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?p=24207176#24207176 I really had the tea. That was herstory. You’re definitely on a TaylorNation watch list for life bc of this. What a moment.
Cleanromantic Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 Red is retrospectively seen as the classic definitive essential Taylor album, and I love how much acclaim it continues to get. The genre of Red, however, is still frequently debated. Some claim it is a pop album and others call it country, but I disagree with both of those assessments. Red of course features both country and Pop songs, but I think the most prevalent genre on the album is soft rock. If we break down the songs into genres, the 3 major categories would be Soft Rock, Pop, and Country, with songs in each category exploring different aspects of each genre. The Pop songs: Most people claim Red is a pop album, but although there are Pop songs on it, they are hardly the main genre. Bubblegum Pop: We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together, 22 Pop Rock: I Knew You Were Trouble Pop: Stay Stay Stay, Starlight, Girl At Home So 6 songs out of 19 are actually Pop songs Country: An argument can be made that we can't call Red a country album because there are very few actual country songs on the album. Country Pop: Red, Come Back... Be here, The Moment I knew Country: I Almost Do, Begin Again Soft Rock: I think this is the genre that Red should actually be categorized as so many of the songs are either subgenres of soft rock or straight-up rock. Arena Rock: State of Grace Soft Rock: Treacherous, All Too Well, The Last Time, Holy Ground, Sad Beautiful Tragic, The Lucky One, Everything Has Changed Break Down: Soft Rock: 8 songs Pop: 6 songs Country: 5 songs
Great Username Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Vespertine said: You’re definitely on a TaylorNation watch list for life bc of this. What a moment. https://classic.atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=658591&page=2104 People died 1
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