wastedpotential Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, JorgeM said: Willow proved that HAC and AC radio are 100% supporting her, she just need to release something that match with the how pop radio sounds nowadays for get radio support Exactly. People are forgetting that basically a year ago this time Taylor got a #1 hit on HAC radio that also went top 10 on AC, 2/3 of her big formats. She's not guaranteed to get everything she touches to #1 anymore, but she's not iced out either.
wastedpotential Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Cleanromantic said: I'm only excited for debut and Speak Now rerecordings tbh . Fearless was elevated to a modern day country pop classic with her improved voice and the glossy production. Red had a lot of soft rock and country songs so she was able to mostly improve upon the original. But given the tragedy that is the 3 pop singles and how they were completely botched, entire albums of synthpop like 1989 and electropop like reputation will be ruined . I'm hoping that Taylor recognizes how poorly classics like IKYWT and 22 have performed (especially in comparison to All Too Well 5 minute version and Red (S)) and realizes that making Max tracks without Max is very spotty. Wildest Dreams wasn't too bad, but I'm terrified of how she might accidentally butcher the extremely intricate layering in songs like Shake It Off or Style, and she's missing the Max Martin touch that made songs like Dancing With Our Hands Tied* or New Romantics magical Edited April 24, 2022 by wastedpotential
idkwiam Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 1 minute ago, wastedpotential said: I'm hoping that Taylor recognizes how poorly classics like IKYWT and 22 have performed (especially in comparison to All Too Well 5 minute version and Red (S)) and realizes that making Max tracks without Max is very spotty. Wildest Dreams wasn't too bad, but I'm terrified of how she might accidentally butcher the extremely intricate layering in songs like Shake It Off or Style, and she's missing the Max Martin touch that made songs like Getaway Car or New Romantics magical GC wasn't produced by Max though but yes we need him back unless she is negotiating to get her masters back,
Folklore89sm Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 I’m still convinced TS10 will be her next release. There must be some reason she is hiding. She’s literally been seen once since RED TV week. There’s something big coming. I feel like right now os the biggest shes been d as since 2015. She should take advantage of that for a new album. Nobody knows how well the other re-recordings are gonna go. I think it will be lead single dropping in late July or August, and TS10 in October. And it will be a new sound
wastedpotential Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 1 minute ago, idkwiam said: GC wasn't produced by Max though but yes we need him back unless she is negotiating to get her masters back, NOT ME ******* THAT UP NNNNN
wastedpotential Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Folklore89sm said: I’m still convinced TS10 will be her next release. There must be some reason she is hiding. She’s literally been seen once since RED TV week. There’s something big coming. Not to mention that Taylor is always writing new music and she hasn't had a chance to release any of it since December 2020
lenchen. Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 Conversation with Friends comes out on may 15th and I don’t think Taylor would announce or release something around that time. I think Carolina is the next thing we get (hopefully before the movie drops).
idkwiam Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Folklore89sm said: I’m still convinced TS10 will be her next release. There must be some reason she is hiding. She’s literally been seen once since RED TV week. There’s something big coming. I feel like right now os the biggest shes been d as since 2015. She should take advantage of that for a new album. Nobody knows how well the other re-recordings are gonna go. I think it will be lead single dropping in late July or August, and TS10 in October. And it will be a new sound Yeah hopefully TS10 is next. Maybe she will do her old schedule - Lead Single August , Album October. I would like another Lover type of rollout with at least 2 singles before the album. One single before the album is useless in the streaming era. 4 minutes ago, wastedpotential said: NOT ME ******* THAT UP NNNNN The chorus has definitely Max's vibe. Read this bestie - https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/fearless-252671/ Swift is a songwriting savant with an intuitive gift for verse-chorus-bridge architecture that, in singles like the surging “Fifteen,” calls to mind Swedish pop gods Dr. Luke and Max Martin. If she ever tires of stardom, she could retire to Sweden and make a fine living churning out hits for Kelly Clarkson and Katy Perry. She has been compared to Max and the other man since 2008
wastedpotential Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 1 minute ago, idkwiam said: Read this bestie - https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/fearless-252671/ Swift is a songwriting savant with an intuitive gift for verse-chorus-bridge architecture that, in singles like the surging “Fifteen,” calls to mind Swedish pop gods Dr. Luke and Max Martin. If she ever tires of stardom, she could retire to Sweden and make a fine living churning out hits for Kelly Clarkson and Katy Perry. She has been compared to Max and the other man since 2008 I've always loved this review When Taylor retires, if she doesn't go into writing novels or writing songs for other people I'll be SHOCKED
JorgeM Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, idkwiam said: Yeah hopefully TS10 is next. Maybe she will do her old schedule - Lead Single August , Album October. I would like another Lover type of rollout with at least 2 singles before the album. One single before the album is useless in the streaming era. I’m starting to think that she is going to release TS10 and as you said following her traditional roll out . She may release Carolina on end of may/first of June and lead single on august
JorgeM Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 22 minutes ago, wastedpotential said: I'm hoping that Taylor recognizes how poorly classics like IKYWT and 22 have performed (especially in comparison to All Too Well 5 minute version and Red (S)) and realizes that making Max tracks without Max is very spotty. Wildest Dreams wasn't too bad, but I'm terrified of how she might accidentally butcher the extremely intricate layering in songs like Shake It Off or Style, and she's missing the Max Martin touch that made songs like Dancing With Our Hands Tied* or New Romantics magical I think swifties should start to understand that Max 99% don’t want to be part of the re-recording proyect. Re-recordings make more richer only to Taylor, as 33% songwritter Max is going to earn the same money for each version, and production fee are not relevant enough comparing with the money that he can do at the same time working with another big artist in new songs in which he is songwritter
idkwiam Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 16 minutes ago, wastedpotential said: I've always loved this review When Taylor retires, if she doesn't go into writing novels or writing songs for other people I'll be SHOCKED I don't know when, but she said that if she fears that her career is ending she will write for other people and in 2016 she wrote BM and TIWCF (most likely unrelated but still suspicious). 12 minutes ago, JorgeM said: I’m starting to think that she is going to release TS10 and as you said following her traditional roll out . She may release Carolina on end of may/first of June and lead single on august 7 minutes ago, JorgeM said: I think swifties should start to understand that Max 99% don’t want to be part of the re-recording proyect. Re-recordings make more richer only to Taylor, as 33% songwritter Max is going to earn the same money for each version, and production fee are not relevant enough comparing with the money that he can do at the same time working with another big artist in new songs in which he is songwritter Maybe he's producing for TS10. But who else would give him more money than Taylor? He's kind a has been in 2022 and as far as I know this year his only production credit will be on Lizzos newest album.
wastedpotential Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 1 minute ago, idkwiam said: I don't know when, but she said that if she fears that her career is ending she will write for other people and in 2016 she wrote BM and TIWCF (most likely unrelated but still suspicious). It wouldn't surprise me if this ***** really thought her career was ending in 2016 huh 1 minute ago, idkwiam said: Maybe he's producing for TS10. But who else would give him more money than Taylor? He's kind a has been in 2022 and as far as I know this year his only production credit will be on Lizzos newest album. The last big Max project was After Hours , and considering the man used to have 2-3 A-list albums released every year, that drought isn't boding well for him Spoiler He did a lot of Dawn Fm too but that **** flopped hard
JorgeM Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, idkwiam said: I don't know when, but she said that if she fears that her career is ending she will write for other people and in 2016 she wrote BM and TIWCF (most likely unrelated but still suspicious). Maybe he's producing for TS10. But who else would give him more money than Taylor? He's kind a has been in 2022 and as far as I know this year his only production credit will be on Lizzos newest album. The thing is with Taylor what money could he earn? He is already getting the royalties for IKYWT tv and any other song in which he is songwritter. TS10 is completely different because it would be new songs. I don’t think there is any beef between them. And we don’t know which albums he could be writing/ producing
P!NK2LOVE Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 It's the not knowing which is the worst part our random fave!
Achilles. Posted April 24, 2022 Author Posted April 24, 2022 5 hours ago, Ithinkforme13 said: I don't think it's an unfounded criticism. She hasn't been able to get a legit radio hit since Delicate and a 10 minute vault song showed way better longevity and stability than all of her actual singles in the past 5 years. Plus she can't seem to pick the right song to be a single to save her life. It’s because when she picks her singles, she decides based on the narrative she wants to push rather than its hit potential. Basically all of her singles since Look have either been (1) PR statements to spark discourse and influence people’s perception of her or (2) “songwriter” songs that were pushed hard for SOTY. Delicate was a fluke, honestly. It perfectly walked the tight rope of being a song that was both topical and songwriterly, whilst also being good single material. She hasn’t found that balance again. I do think the 1 or exile would’ve been bigger than cardigan, but that song was an even more transparent SOTY attempt than her desperate push for Lover (which is silly because the 1 or exile would still have gotten a SOTY nom and lost to I Can’t Breathe, while exile would’ve gotten a ROTY nom and might’ve even won). And, I mean, what does she even really need “legit hits” for anymore when she’s absolutely stomping all of the hitmakers without them?
Achilles. Posted April 24, 2022 Author Posted April 24, 2022 2 hours ago, idkwiam said: I don't know when, but she said that if she fears that her career is ending she will write for other people and in 2016 she wrote BM and TIWCF (most likely unrelated but still suspicious). I’ve always been a bit skeptical of her intention to write for others, just because of how rarely she actually does it. Better Man and Babe were both leftovers that she gave to country artists long after she’d left the genre. Interestingly, Little Big Town and Sugarland are both acts that crossover but those two singles were confined strictly to country formats. It’s almost like Taylor didn’t want them competing with own material on pop formats. (It’s also very interesting that she gave Babe to Sugarland basically as a favor to Big Machine, since it was their “comeback” song after signing to the label; she really subtweeted Scott Borchetta with the whole “you wouldn’t want me to be the one that got away (from Big Machine), would you?”). And then of course, who even knows what the situation is with TIWYCF. Did Taylor write it for Calvin and let him do what he wanted with it? Did she write it for herself and then choose to give it away? Was it an experimentation of a possible EDM sound for TS6?
On The Bound Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 i just know puta tv is getting GAH’d She’s gonna make it listenable
Ithinkforme13 Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 58 minutes ago, Achilles. said: And, I mean, what does she even really need “legit hits” for anymore when she’s absolutely stomping all of the hitmakers without them? She needs a hit if she's ever going to get a SOTY or ROTY Grammy which is one of the few things she's missing in her career. She's never going to win with a "message" song and other than that a song needs to be a hit to win.
1989 Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 Are we not doing track 5? my tears ricochet > Dear John > tolerate it > All Too Well > Delicate > The Archer > Cold As You > All You Had To Do Was Stay > White Horse
GabeInPolaroids Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 Only an announcement would make me feel less depressed after watching Heartstopper ??
Cruel Summer Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 I could see a Q4 TS10 drop honestly. For Grammy purposes it ignores all the releases that are happening this year (it’s likely to be a competitive year for AOTY); it gives time for Red TV to run its course but doesn’t take so long she’s missed her moment; she’ll have about two years of songs written by then, and we all know she’s only ever gone longer than her old 2 year schedule once in her career; it would be the right time to finally announce a huge stadium tour for next year; gives her time to have all the vinyls pressed and ready to ship, maybe film some music videos. It all works very neatly. Now, I certainly won’t get my hopes up at all at this point, but hey, it would work out fine.
Ithinkforme13 Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 I still don't know how TS10 would work when the re-recordings aren't done. I think the only way it might work would be another 1 single and done otherwise it's just too much and she's would be competing with herself.
Beyonnaise Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 So some of you think the re-recordings aren't continuing and she's just jumping to TS10 now? Why? Why would the trademarks have been cleared recently then We don't know for certain but I don't think she would ever swerve away from her intended goal of re-recording everything unless she was able to buy the masters outright
Shoful Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Beyonnaise said: So some of you think the re-recordings aren't continuing and she's just jumping to TS10 now? Why? Why would the trademarks have been cleared recently then We don't know for certain but I don't think she would ever swerve away from her intended goal of re-recording everything unless she was able to buy the masters outright Wait Speak Now is cleared?
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