Beyonnaise Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 3 hours ago, idkwiam said: Yeah afterglow would have been HUGE if released. It has stellar recurrent streams despite being low on the tracklist and in the middle of those songs. Wasn’t Afterglow supposed to be a duet with Ariana? I could see there maybe being a plan to make it the 4th single but then it fell through amid the Scooter drama and the solo version was put on the album
Cruel Summer Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 Sometimes it fascinates me that some fans consider 1989 her worst pop album. I’ve never been able to see it that way - not since my recency bias for Lover faded, anyway.
BloodLuster Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 not this b*tch leaving her cave only to promote that vinyl
19SLAYty9 Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 34 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said: Sometimes it fascinates me that some fans consider 1989 her worst pop album. I’ve never been able to see it that way - not since my recency bias for Lover faded, anyway. It’s her best wbk
On The Bound Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) I used to say 1989 was her worst pop album and puta was her best to be edgy...I've since seen the light and know 1989 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Loser = Puta (loser is objectively the better album but puta has wayyyy higher highs...nothing on loser is touching Dress, CIWYW, Delicate or NYD) Edited April 24, 2022 by On The Bound
Beyonnaise Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 I think the Vault tracks for 1989 and Rep will settle the best pop album debate. If 1989’s are just ok but filler-ish compared to the main album and Rep has amazing gems (especially if they’re more wild in the vein of RFI/IDSB/LWYMMD) I could see myself putting that ahead of 1989.
Gork Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 3 hours ago, TaylorNation said: this is why I’m thinking (clowning) that she will surprise release it soon. i feel like she must also want to finish the rerecording nets fast so that she can move on to other stuff I was thinking about this too (a drop everything now post with Speak Now TV would be iconic) or a 2 month gap between announcement and release like Fearless TV
idkwiam Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 41 minutes ago, Beyonnaise said: Wasn’t Afterglow supposed to be a duet with Ariana? I could see there maybe being a plan to make it the 4th single but then it fell through amid the Scooter drama and the solo version was put on the album Apparently yes. I don't get why ATRL says she can't get hits anymore. If Camila Cabello out of all people can get a low key stable hit I don't get why she wouldn't get a hit
19SLAYty9 Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Beyonnaise said: I think the Vault tracks for 1989 and Rep will settle the best pop album debate. If 1989’s are just ok but filler-ish compared to the main album and Rep has amazing gems (especially if they’re more wild in the vein of RFI/IDSB/LWYMMD) I could see myself putting that ahead of 1989. Taylor was only allowed to release 3 jack songs for 1989 so I’m guessing we will get more of those. We will probably get another few Ryan tracks. Def some more max Martin- hopefully something similar to what he’s done w The Weeknd’s. We might get the Diane co-wrote but I hope not tbh
19SLAYty9 Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, Beyonnaise said: I think the Vault tracks for 1989 and Rep will settle the best pop album debate. If 1989’s are just ok but filler-ish compared to the main album and Rep has amazing gems (especially if they’re more wild in the vein of RFI/IDSB/LWYMMD) I could see myself putting that ahead of 1989. Also, her dad said she wrote like 200 songs for rep and the best didn’t make the album? She said a lot of what she made at first sounded too 1989 so I think when choosing the originally tracklist she purposely chose songs that sounded “edgier” while knowing they weren’t the best songs in order to fit the aesthetic she wanted for the era.
On The Bound Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 if the puta vault tracks are in the vein of LWYMMD/RFI/TIWWCHNT etc she can keep it we want CIWYW 2.0
19SLAYty9 Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 And one last thing on the vault tracks… during the folklore / evermore AM interview with Zane low she talked about how in the past when choosing final track lists she always felt like she has boxes to check when choosing Tracklist… needing a certain amount of songs for radio, some for tour, some for those who wanted something emotional, the label wanting some diversity thematically … which is probably why many of the vault tracks on FTV & RTV (specifically RTV) are better than many songs on the final tracklist… so I’m hopeful that many of the vault songs will be better than songs on the original tracklist
19SLAYty9 Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, On The Bound said: if the puta vault tracks are in the vein of LWYMMD/RFI/TIWWCHNT etc she can keep it we want CIWYW 2.0 We want blinding lights 2.0 (TV) (featuring Drake) (FTV)
On The Bound Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, 19SLAYty9 said: We want blinding lights 2.0 (TV) (featuring Drake) (FTV) This would honestly be such a slay
Achilles. Posted April 24, 2022 Author Posted April 24, 2022 30 minutes ago, Beyonnaise said: I think the Vault tracks for 1989 and Rep will settle the best pop album debate. If 1989’s are just ok but filler-ish compared to the main album and Rep has amazing gems (especially if they’re more wild in the vein of RFI/IDSB/LWYMMD) I could see myself putting that ahead of 1989. The vaults for these two albums will be very interesting imo. She didn’t come up with the 1989 “throwback pop album” concept until the end of January 2014, and the songs basically just exploded out of her after that; from the 1989 booklet we know: Jan 22: I Know Places Feb 9: Clean Feb 15: Shake It Off Feb 19: Style I Know Places is the only one of these songs that predates her conception of the 1989 concept after the 2014 Grammy ceremony. I’m pretty sure that she said once that nearly all of the songs that she wrote in 2014 ended up on the album. But there are presumably a bunch of songs she wrote in 2013 that didn’t end up on the album (as well as some Harry Styles cowrites from late 2012). Since these songs predate the 1989 concept, they may be a continuation of the genre diversity of Red… unless she changes the production on them to suit 1989 better. And then with reputation, she’s basically already told us that she had to cut the wings off of the original TS6 to create this album instead. The extra year between cycles also put more distance between the Calvin relationship and allowed the Joe relationship to develop more, hence why the album is all about the latter rather than the former. But are songs from the original TS6 sessions considered part of the reputation vault? And even with Speak Now, I think there are definitely songs that were cut from the tracklist when she dropped the Enchanted concept. “Castles Crumbling” would be one such song. The vault songs for Fearless and Red were clearly just songs that didn’t make the tracklists for whatever reason. The 1989, reputation, and Speak Now vault songs will be interesting because they may reveal more about the albums that she almost made beforing settling on those album concepts.
Gork Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) I'm so excited for 1989 TV and rep TV vault tracks… I hope they're good enough not to ruin the albums and the new album covers? the classic ones are going to be hard to beat whew Edited April 24, 2022 by Gork
Ithinkforme13 Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 1 hour ago, idkwiam said: I don't get why ATRL says she can't get hits anymore. If Camila Cabello out of all people can get a low key stable hit I don't get why she wouldn't get a hit I don't think it's an unfounded criticism. She hasn't been able to get a legit radio hit since Delicate and a 10 minute vault song showed way better longevity and stability than all of her actual singles in the past 5 years. Plus she can't seem to pick the right song to be a single to save her life.
Taylor fanboy Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 And then with reputation, she’s basically already told us that she had to cut the wings off of the original TS6 to create this album instead. THAT never happened.
wastedpotential Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 7 hours ago, State of Grace. said: Afterglow and Friend are both amazing highlights. Even I Forgot That My Talent Existed has nice production, but Taylor herself was the problem It's kinda hilarious to me how she worked with Frank & Louis who are arguably two of the best/biggest hitmakers then released those diabolical songs as singles instead. I was expecting some excellence like Post's Better Now after she publicly stanned for that song I've always said that Afterglow would've made a FANTASTIC fall 2020 single after Cruel Summer that summer in a non-Covid world
TaylorNation Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 I was trying to think which vault songs I am the most hyped for but tbh I really can’t choose Debut: finally getting HQs + and non chipmunk vocals of all those demos, plus potentially other songs we don’t even know exist (also Tim McGraw TV will be an absolute COLLAPSE) Speak Now: her best album, Enchanted original concept, more self-written masterpieces 1989: her first full-out pop album, Harry co-writes, other Max Martin songs (? not sure about this one) Reputation: tracks from the original concept she had for the album before changing direction Spoiler she just needs to hurry tf up
boodytay Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) Do y'all remember that song RIp Off the Page that she teased in the UPS commercial before the release of reputation? I'm excited to hear it when she drops the TV but I'm scared that the dubstep might make it sound dated. Edited April 24, 2022 by boodytay
wastedpotential Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, boodytay said: Do y'all remember that song RIp Off the Page that she teased in the UPS commercial before the release of reputation? I'm convinced that was just a random beat someone wayyyyy beneath her level picked to go in that commercial and we all ran too far with it Lyrically it made no sense and could've been gibberish
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