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[Fama]

Joel's probably a good man, but his personality seems to clash with Taylor's. She's a energetic alpha, while he comes off as reserved and passive in the studio. She's probably too alpha for him. They will never make hits together.

[Taylor fanboy]

reputation is her most meta album, to the point of breaking the fourth wall (see Dress and So It Goes…)

 

When she said, "I don't like your tilted stage" intellectuals knew she was referring to her stage from 1989 world tour.

 

 

A stage where she is prominently famous for performing Clean and giving the famous Clean speech.

 

""Am I shooting from the hip?" Taylor once said about her success. Little did we know that Taylor was already revisiting her playbook years ahead of reputation, and learned that she is never "Clean" as her speech and song says.

 

Taylor needed to play dirty (I Did Something Bad, Getaway Car), cut people off (TIWWCHNT), warn new people coming into her life (…RFI?) and confront her own doubts (Delicate), and embrace her desires (King Of My Heart).

 

ugh we need better journalists than that Stereogum reviewer (even though he loves reputation).

[Taylor fanboy]

Joel is just not talented. No offense if he has stans here.

[Taylor fanboy]

On 12/23/2024 at 12:48 AM, watawa said:

In my opinion Antonoff flattens her music, makes everything sound the same. He's only there because he's friends with Taylor.
 

And yes, he doesn't generate feedback. It's noticeable because on TTPD the songs (I'm not referring to the number of tracks) are excessively long, all of them are at least 1 minute too long... at least. It's a total yes sir, which is what a producer should not be. In my opinion her best albums are when she was in Big Machine, precisely because she had feedback.

 

Objectively, her first album outside of Big Machine had a sh*t ton of short and terrible songs until we bullied her and gave us folklore. Maybe you were on to something!

Edited December 24, 2024 by Taylor fanboy

[Peroxide]

15 hours ago, Cleanromantic said:

Going from the excellent, nuanced and brutally dark ttpd (and high-key Midnights) to basic, stream lined MM songs with thumping, driving 2014 production and generic lyrics will be such a downgrade .  It might work in the short term on people with basic taste but it'll age horribly.

Blank Space, Style, Dancing With Our Hands Tied, New Romantics etc… these are some of Taylor's very best songs, I'd welcome Max coming back for a pop record.

[Cleanromantic]

1 hour ago, Peroxide said:

Blank Space, Style, Dancing With Our Hands Tied, New Romantics etc… these are some of Taylor's very best songs, I'd welcome Max coming back for a pop record.

Thanks to Taylor's pen and melody game, not Max 

[Cleanromantic]

The only chrismas songs that matter 

 

 

[Cruel Summer]

Not to be delusional, but if she really wants to lock up that chart legacy, releasing a Christmas album on the last Friday of October or the first Friday of November next year would be the biggest thing left she can do. All the better if it's more like 'Tis The Damn Season - maybe some covers, maybe the tracks on the original Holiday Collection, but definitely like ten new original tracks ranging from the TTDS style to pop to her country roots (but please leave the damn farm song in hell where it belongs). One truly EXCELLENT song as the single, a full promotional push, and then after that first year, a focus on racking up BB200 #1 weeks slowly over the years… I can see it all now  

 

Although since she often releases in Q4, this might be better after all the rerecordings are out if they aren't by then, so that there's less risk of competing with herself.

 

Plus, then we'd get a cute yearly mini-era to celebrate, without as much investment from her as a full era. Great to help fill those off years.

[Calvin]

1 hour ago, Cruel Summer said:

Not to be delusional, but if she really wants to lock up that chart legacy, releasing a Christmas album on the last Friday of October or the first Friday of November next year would be the biggest thing left she can do. All the better if it's more like 'Tis The Damn Season - maybe some covers, maybe the tracks on the original Holiday Collection, but definitely like ten new original tracks ranging from the TTDS style to pop to her country roots (but please leave the damn farm song in hell where it belongs). One truly EXCELLENT song as the single, a full promotional push, and then after that first year, a focus on racking up BB200 #1 weeks slowly over the years… I can see it all now  

 

Although since she often releases in Q4, this might be better after all the rerecordings are out if they aren't by then, so that there's less risk of competing with herself.

 

Plus, then we'd get a cute yearly mini-era to celebrate, without as much investment from her as a full era. Great to help fill those off years.

She should've released it last year instead of 1989 tv. 

[19SLAYty9]

1 hour ago, Cruel Summer said:

Not to be delusional, but if she really wants to lock up that chart legacy, releasing a Christmas album on the last Friday of October or the first Friday of November next year would be the biggest thing left she can do. All the better if it's more like 'Tis The Damn Season - maybe some covers, maybe the tracks on the original Holiday Collection, but definitely like ten new original tracks ranging from the TTDS style to pop to her country roots (but please leave the damn farm song in hell where it belongs). One truly EXCELLENT song as the single, a full promotional push, and then after that first year, a focus on racking up BB200 #1 weeks slowly over the years… I can see it all now  

 

Although since she often releases in Q4, this might be better after all the rerecordings are out if they aren't by then, so that there's less risk of competing with herself.

 

Plus, then we'd get a cute yearly mini-era to celebrate, without as much investment from her as a full era. Great to help fill those off years.

Ts12 Black Friday next year

rep tv 2026

ts13 2027

debut tv 2028

ts14 2029

thc tv 2030

ts15 2031

ts16 2033

[Kyle-x]

20 minutes ago, 19SLAYty9 said:

Ts12 Black Friday next year

rep tv 2026

ts13 2027

debut tv 2028

ts14 2029

thc tv 2030

ts15 2031

ts16 2033

Our vinyl shelves by 2040

 

[JorgeM]

7 hours ago, 19SLAYty9 said:

Ts12 Black Friday next year

rep tv 2026

ts13 2027

debut tv 2028

ts14 2029

thc tv 2030

ts15 2031

ts16 2033

Re-recordings are finishing in 2026. I think releasing debut on 20th anniversary is the more obvious plan

[Tusk]

I guess no one is going to touch the hack that is Aaron. 
 

evermore is his lightening in a bottle. 
 

[4Real]

I've been listening to Starlight (stolen version, sorry) a lot lately and wow what a masterclass in how to make a great song! The euphoric production, the way she delivers the lines with so much passion and she sounds GREAT in it too, the lyrics that are mostly fanfiction but also brings some very reflective inspirational thoughts. It might just be the best song of her entire career.

[hoax]

22 hours ago, Headlock said:

To be a bit of Joel Little apologist , the production on his songs is actually very good, its just he didn't know Taylor well enough/didn't have power to tell her to shove Me-he-he where the sun don't shine and start over. If they had met during Reputation and not in whatever candy-coated hellscape Taylor was in during Lover, the songs they made would probably be better.

I mean yeah sorta kinda but also... those songs were all made during the breaks in the RST, so even though she and that boy were in a good-ish place, she was still living surrounded by snakes. Alas, she's gotten even harder to say no to as the years have passed, so I fear they need to remain on separate continents at all times. Lorde can have him back after making sure Taylor didn't pass on her 'autoimmune disease' 

[hoax]

15 hours ago, Cruel Summer said:

Not to be delusional, but if she really wants to lock up that chart legacy, releasing a Christmas album on the last Friday of October or the first Friday of November next year would be the biggest thing left she can do. All the better if it's more like 'Tis The Damn Season - maybe some covers, maybe the tracks on the original Holiday Collection, but definitely like ten new original tracks ranging from the TTDS style to pop to her country roots (but please leave the damn farm song in hell where it belongs). One truly EXCELLENT song as the single, a full promotional push, and then after that first year, a focus on racking up BB200 #1 weeks slowly over the years… I can see it all now  

 

Although since she often releases in Q4, this might be better after all the rerecordings are out if they aren't by then, so that there's less risk of competing with herself.

 

Plus, then we'd get a cute yearly mini-era to celebrate, without as much investment from her as a full era. Great to help fill those off years.

You have to realize, based off of the promo she's given it, the way she's spoken about it, and the fact that she continues to try to make it happen, she really loves the damn farm song. I hate to report that, considering she's released it three times and aren't we all glad we didn't get a fourth version this year, its name can probably be found alongside "Red" and "folklore" on the front page of every diary she's owned, surrounded by hearts and her botched stars 

 

Everyone needs to find them a man who loves them as much as Taylor loves Christmas Farm House (iykyk ddddd)

 

 

Spoiler

NNN the way this woman even put together a fuckass compilation of these versions with friendship bracelets on it and I'd never seen it until this exact moment and as someone who spends hours staring at her Spotify page fantasizing about cleaning it up, that should indicate just how unwanted this **** is

 

I know it says it was released November 22nd, 2021, but am I crazy for thinking this is new and they just slotted it back in time like they did with the songs that dropped with the AZ shows? I genuinely have zero recollection of this existing, but here it is? And why tf would she have the friendshipbraceletcore lettering if it's not post-Eras? Oh girls all I got for Christmas this year was a decay into insanity 

Anyway, the Old Timey Version DEVOURS the competition here! 

Edited December 25, 2024 by wastedpotential

[Dear Reader]

oh my god, i hate pick me swifties so much 

[Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus]

15 hours ago, Cruel Summer said:

Not to be delusional, but if she really wants to lock up that chart legacy, releasing a Christmas album on the last Friday of October or the first Friday of November next year would be the biggest thing left she can do. All the better if it's more like 'Tis The Damn Season - maybe some covers, maybe the tracks on the original Holiday Collection, but definitely like ten new original tracks ranging from the TTDS style to pop to her country roots (but please leave the damn farm song in hell where it belongs). One truly EXCELLENT song as the single, a full promotional push, and then after that first year, a focus on racking up BB200 #1 weeks slowly over the years… I can see it all now  

 

Although since she often releases in Q4, this might be better after all the rerecordings are out if they aren't by then, so that there's less risk of competing with herself.

 

Plus, then we'd get a cute yearly mini-era to celebrate, without as much investment from her as a full era. Great to help fill those off years.

And she can always add newer songs to it like how Sia ended up doubling the size of her Christmas album over the years lmao

[Cruel Summer]

6 minutes ago, every1blinks said:

And she can always add newer songs to it like how Sia ended up doubling the size of her Christmas album over the years lmao

I just had a vision of Taylor covering Puppies Are Forever (which I hear EVERY TIME I step into a Target lately) and I think it activated my fight or flight response 

 

I endorse this plan, an ever-growing Swiftmas eternal  It would probably be the first thing ever to get me into the holiday spirit; I'm not a big holiday person.

 

17 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

You have to realize, based off of the promo she's given it, the way she's spoken about it, and the fact that she continues to try to make it happen, she really loves the damn farm song. I hate to report that, considering she's released it three times and aren't we all glad we didn't get a fourth version this year, its name can probably be found alongside "Red" and "folklore" on the front page of every diary she's owned, surrounded by hearts and her botched stars 

 

Everyone needs to find them a man who loves them as much as Taylor loves Christmas Farm House (iykyk ddddd)

 

 

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NNN the way this woman even put together a fuckass compilation of these versions with friendship bracelets on it and I'd never seen it until this exact moment and as someone who spends hours staring at her Spotify page fantasizing about cleaning it up, that should indicate just how unwanted this **** is

 

I know it says it was released November 22nd, 2021, but am I crazy for thinking this is new and they just slotted it back in time like they did with the songs that dropped with the AZ shows? I genuinely have zero recollection of this existing, but here it is? And why tf would she have the friendshipbraceletcore lettering if it's not post-Eras? Oh girls all I got for Christmas this year was a decay into insanity 

Anyway, the Old Timey Version DEVOURS the competition here! 

The Christmas Trauma Farm dissertation here, oh it's bad for us that you actually made points and she loves this thing

 

Come to think of it, I kind of think almost all Christmas music is terrible and annoying… but still, the possibility of another 17+ week #1 album makes me dream. I guess that's why it has to be like 'Tis The Damn Season, because I couldn't take a full album of this!

[soulsearcher]

What do you guys think about her working with David O Russell.

 

I don't think I can support her after that. It feels so weird, given her whole activism era in 2019.

 

I dont know what to think.(yes, i know this happened in 2022)

[hoax]

48 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said:

I just had a vision of Taylor covering Puppies Are Forever (which I hear EVERY TIME I step into a Target lately) and I think it activated my fight or flight response 

 

I endorse this plan, an ever-growing Swiftmas eternal  It would probably be the first thing ever to get me into the holiday spirit; I'm not a big holiday person.

 

The Christmas Trauma Farm dissertation here, oh it's bad for us that you actually made points and she loves this thing

 

Come to think of it, I kind of think almost all Christmas music is terrible and annoying… but still, the possibility of another 17+ week #1 album makes me dream. I guess that's why it has to be like 'Tis The Damn Season, because I couldn't take a full album of this!

Okay I just had a vision girls

 

 

I need a full TTDS inspired concept album (12-13 tracks, 45 minutes) in that general sonic realm, but very specifically and very explicitly walking us through the timeline of rich hot and famous "Dorothea"* traveling back to "Tupelo"** to rendezvous and canoodle with her "normie high school boyfriend working as a boring tradesman or whatever"*** and just really unpacking all of the emotional turmoil and whatnot. Make it spicy and give "Dorothea"* a loser, emotionally vacant, alcoholic, British flop actor boyfriend back in LA with whom she's having a concurrent affair and give "normie Tupelo boyfriend"*** an effervescent and witless influencer wife he's cheating on, and a handful of kids he's contemplating abandoning 

 

And throughout the project, the only references we get to it being Christmas are from the secondary characters and references to the weather because no one needs an overtly Christmassy Christmas album anymore 

 

I need to inject this into my veins asap, @13megladons lets make this happen 

 

Spoiler

*Taylor Alison Swift

**Hendersonville, TN

***Drew Dunlap 

LEGAL NOTICE: I do not endorse infidelity or homewrecking or child abandonment, this is merely an inspired thought of a fantastical hypothetical expression of artistic merit

Edited December 25, 2024 by wastedpotential

[Dear Reader]

39 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

Okay I just had a vision girls

 

 

I need a full TTDS inspired concept album (12-13 tracks, 45 minutes) in that general sonic realm, but very specifically and very explicitly walking us through the timeline of rich hot and famous "Dorothea"* traveling back to "Tupelo"** to rendezvous and canoodle with her "normie high school boyfriend working as a boring tradesman or whatever"*** and just really unpacking all of the emotional turmoil and whatnot. Make it spicy and give "Dorothea"* a loser, emotionally vacant, alcoholic, British flop actor boyfriend back in LA with whom she's having a concurrent affair and give "normie Tupelo boyfriend"*** an effervescent and witless influencer wife he's cheating on, and a handful of kids he's contemplating abandoning 

 

And throughout the project, the only references we get to it being Christmas are from the secondary characters and references to the weather because no one needs an overtly Christmassy Christmas album anymore 

 

I need to inject this into my veins asap, @13megladons lets make this happen 

 

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*Taylor Alison Swift

**Hendersonville, TN

***Drew Dunlap 

LEGAL NOTICE: I do not endorse infidelity or homewrecking or child abandonment, this is merely an inspired thought of a fantastical hypothetical expression of artistic merit

Now I also want that and I'll never get it and it's all your fault. 

 

 

[Kyle-x]

That user that comes in here every few weeks to try and get us to cancel her adjasksd

 

Oh the greatest song of all time?

 

[IBeMe]

4 hours ago, 4Real said:

I've been listening to Starlight (stolen version, sorry) a lot lately and wow what a masterclass in how to make a great song! The euphoric production, the way she delivers the lines with so much passion and she sounds GREAT in it too, the lyrics that are mostly fanfiction but also brings some very reflective inspirational thoughts. It might just be the best song of her entire career.

WTF!!!! this is crazy because I was literally listening to that song nonstop lately (actually specifically around the time u posted this lol. Such an underrated gem and super euphoric. It reminds me of J-pop for some reason lol. Like u can easily hear it on a anime opening to some cute anime

[Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus]

3 hours ago, Cruel Summer said:

I just had a vision of Taylor covering Puppies Are Forever (which I hear EVERY TIME I step into a Target lately) and I think it activated my fight or flight response 

 

I endorse this plan, an ever-growing Swiftmas eternal  It would probably be the first thing ever to get me into the holiday spirit; I'm not a big holiday person.

I think she could position and write it as a winter album so all the songs aren't specific to Christmas/Santa so we can enjoy it year round, like TTDS. I want this from her so bad. It's about time Mariah had some competition haha