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[Michael196]

20 hours ago, Dear Reader said:

send it to me Rachel 

I had to limit myself with a certain number from the beginning, because otherwise I would've ended up with double that if not more and four hours of the same woman is already insane  and I'm not creative enough to curate and always trust whatever miss shuffle tosses my way... enjoy

https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/tay-cember-24/pl.u-2aoqP5bFq84Ypp

 

 

[Michael196]

19 hours ago, PoisonedIvy said:

How does it feel knowing that we stan the girl with the most emotionally charged discography  

And we're dysfunctional enough to crave that **** at all times, especially the most depressing ones 

[Peak Now]

I mean we all know Hack is a hiphop producer now, get ready to see his name on a Playboi Carti album

 

[4Real]

5 hours ago, Headlock said:

The Jack hate is always funny to me because literally most of the fan favorites on her recent albums amongst Swifties are Jack co-writes (Cruel Summer, August, etc).

These two being from 4/5 years ago 

Is there not anything more recent that can be used as an example?

 

 

[Klein]

1 hour ago, 4Real said:

These two being from 4/5 years ago 

Is there not anything more recent that can be used as an example?

 

 

Guilty As Sin? Maroon? YOYOK? 

[mael]

It's been a while, but I teared up to Forever Winter again...

 

[Cleanromantic]

Jack haters are the same breed as director Taylor haters. They were the ones complaining about her working with MM during reputation and begging her to drop Joseph Khan, now they want her to go back to MM (because that's basically the only producer they know, even though he has been recycling 2014 productions for 10 years now) and wanting Joseph Khan back . All of this to say, these people have the worst taste in her discography and should go stan other pop girls serving them Bops, because Taylor is not that kind of artist. Really, the only album Taylor served bops on is 1989, and its the album with her most generic songwriting. In conclusion, you all should spare us your unoriginal, stan twitter'd, brain-rotted takes and leave us alone.

[PoisonedIvy]

Ok girls I did it 

 

I caught feelings for a crush and it felt like Fearless 

 

I dove headfirst into it, all in and it was the hopeless optimism of reputation 

 

The honeymoon phase ended and I felt the fear that comes with love's fragility as captured in Lover 

 

He hurt me and I felt the loss of innocence that Speak Now documents

 

I tried to save things, even at the cost of fragmenting the memories and lessons of my past lovers, akin to Midnights. 

 

My attempts were in vain and I had to accept the futility of my efforts, coming to terms with the end of the relationship; evermore was exceptionally helpful with this. 

 

The wave of sadness that hit me right after ending things was the same brand of chaotic demise we follow throughout Red. 

 

My next wave of emotion was anger, both at him and myself. I liken this to TTPD, because I couldn't believe I was naive enough to be led on after all of the wisdom I thought I'd gained from failed relationships of the past.

 

Most recently I began to accept things, and now I even feel comfortable visiting the gravesites stored in my phone (notes and photos of the memories we shared in our brief time together). folklore shined here during this arc, a perfect era for reflection and grief.

 

As of right now, the resilience of 1989 is resonating greatly within me. I drastically changed my hair and I'm about to launch my post breakup glow rebrand on my IG tomorrow. I've got a lot of exciting plans lined up with friends and family and I'm detaching from the emotional hold a man had over me in favor of personal growth and happiness. 

 

She really is the soundtrack to my life. I'm so grateful to her.  

 

 

Edited Saturday at 10:16 AM by PoisonedIvy

[4Real]

10 hours ago, Klein said:

Guilty As Sin? Maroon? YOYOK? 

not even close!

[JorgeM]

17 hours ago, Headlock said:

The Jack hate is always funny to me because literally most of the fan favorites on her recent albums amongst Swifties are Jack co-writes (Cruel Summer, August, etc). I get wanting variety in her collaborators (and I agree, Taylor sis I'm begging you to get Rostam Batmanglij's number from the Haims) but to say he's a bad producer is just… not true, and directly contradicts the songs people gravitate towards. And also weirdly takes away Taylor's agency as a writer and producer. If Taylor didn't like a writing or production choice by Jack… she would tell him and he'd take it out. Taylor can't be the mastermind of her music and also the victim of a producer's choices, you have to pick one lol.

The hate towards Jack is just the same as their hate towards her boyfriends, it just come from the necessity  that some fans have to control her. Because as you mentioned they said with a straight face that Jack is not longer a good producer and then they put all his productions among their favorite songs. 

[TaylenaStan]

Or maybe, just maybe some people are simply tired of Jacks production. That doesnt mean that he hasnt produced some good songs for her in the past, but to me and lots of people the music has been getting stale
and some people love every single Jack song thats fine aswell, but we're all allowed to voice our opinion 
of course there are some extreme people that go to far but most of us Jack ''haters'' simply want her to work with new people (and NO that doesnt mean Max)
Aaron songs, as much as i love folkmore, have been getting same-y aswell 

[Aiya]

7 minutes ago, TaylenaStan said:

Or maybe, just maybe some people are simply tired of Jacks production. That doesnt mean that he hasnt produced some good songs for her in the past, but to me and lots of people the music has been getting stale
and some people love every single Jack song thats fine aswell, but we're all allowed to voice our opinion 
of course there are some extreme people that go to far but most of us Jack ''haters'' simply want her to work with new people (and NO that doesnt mean Max)
Aaron songs, as much as i love folkmore, have been getting same-y aswell 

Exactly this! Fans might simply want to hear something fresh from different producers, and that doesn't mean Jack is bad or that it's just hate-driven criticism.

 

Honestly, I think Taylor knows exactly how she wants her music to sound, and Jack executes her vision perfectly. My only concern is that Jack might sometimes lean too heavily into what she asks for without pushing back creatively. It could be interesting to see her collaborate with producers who challenge her in new ways.

[Feanor]

People just need to accept that Jack (and probably Aaron too apt) are here to stay for the rest of her career. It's pretty clear at this point that she regards them as more than just mere producers, she sees them as core elements of her artistic output and musical brand overall. This doesn't mean she'll never work with outsiders again, but Antonoff & Dessner will always be part of every album she does from now on.  

[Cleanromantic]

Spoiler

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/21/business/media/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-it-ends-with-us.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Spoiler

I noticed something similar to this happening to Taylor this year. We already know it happened to her before in 2017, with journalists coming out years later and admitting they were paid/ ordered to write smear articles and bad reviews about her, and I saw it happening again this year. 

Spoiler

The deference is, with the exception of the mentally deranged stalker misogynistic losers on Reddit, Taylor has become powerful enough to withstand any smear campaign.

 

 

 

[Dear Reader]

 

giving CEO HBIC 

[Tusk]

5 minutes ago, Dear Reader said:

 

giving CEO HBIC 

giving "It Ends With Us" producer, lawyer, intimacy coordinator, director, and Baldoni's *****.

[gagacasanova]

A serve if I do say so myself 

 

[Headlock]

14 hours ago, 4Real said:

These two being from 4/5 years ago 

Is there not anything more recent that can be used as an example?

 

 

 

12 hours ago, Klein said:

Guilty As Sin? Maroon? YOYOK? 

See above, as well as Hits Different, Midnight Rain, Is It Over Now?, etc.

[19SLAYty9]

She's serving 90s… her Mazzy star is coming 

[Fama]

2 hours ago, Cleanromantic said:

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I noticed something similar to this happening to Taylor this year. We already know it happened to her before in 2017, with journalists coming out years later and admitting they were paid/ ordered to write smear articles and bad reviews about her, and I saw it happening again this year. 

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The deference is, with the exception of the mentally deranged stalker misogynistic losers on Reddit, Taylor has become powerful enough to withstand any smear campaign.

 

 

 

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For sure. I've had my suspicions for a while.  The rapid growth of those snark subreddits feels anything but organic. It really seems like there's a coordinated hate campaign at play. Exposing the people behind it would be a win.

 

[Solaria]

I have this thing where I associate Taylor songs or even albums with completely different subjects than the ones the songs are about.

 

Like OBVIOUSLY Red is her heartbreak album but for many years it's been my 'transformation' album. A lot of the songs on SacRED just scream 'change' to me. 

[Dear Reader]

5 minutes ago, Solaria said:

I have this thing where I associate Taylor songs or even albums with completely different subjects than the ones the songs are about.

 

Like OBVIOUSLY Red is her heartbreak album but for many years it's been my 'transformation' album. A lot of the songs on SacRED just scream 'change' to me. 

I do that all the time and I think that's what Taylor intends us to do. She said it herself at The Eras Tour right before she played Lover. That's why I love her music so much 

[Cleanromantic]

27 minutes ago, Fama said:

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For sure. I've had my suspicions for a while.  The rapid growth of those snark subreddits feels anything but organic. It really seems like there's a coordinated hate campaign at play. Exposing the people behind it would be a win.

 

Spoiler

Swifites have definitely become experts at seeing through this because I didn't fall for other campaigns targeting women because I've seen it happen to Taylor multiple times. 

This reminds me of her advice to Kelsea Bellerini, which was to become "undeniable". The only reason she's able to survive these hate trains is because she made herself undeniable, so the media has thankfully become scared of doing the smear campaigns directly and often hide it under criticism and "holding her accountable". 

Spoiler

But anyone with some media literacy can see through it all. Like those 3 reviewers from the same publication congratulating each other for dropping the ttpd score below 80.

 

 

[Fama]

10 minutes ago, Cleanromantic said:

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Swifites have definitely become experts at seeing through this because I didn't fall for other campaigns targeting women because I've seen it happen to Taylor multiple times. 

This reminds me of her advice to Kelsea Bellerini, which was to become "undeniable". The only reason she's able to survive these hate trains is because she made herself undeniable, so the media has thankfully become scared of doing the smear campaigns directly and often hide it under criticism and "holding her accountable". 

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But anyone with some media literacy can see through it all. Like those 3 reviewers from the same publication congratulating each other for dropping the ttpd score below 80.

 

 

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It's such a useful skill to have. Once you're aware that many writers aren't focused on objectively reporting the truth but often have their own agendas, you start looking at articles differently.

 

The reason last year's hate train didn't succeed was a combination of her current power and the lessons we all learned. I truly believe you can only run so many hate campaigns before people become indifferent.

 

 

[Kyle-x]

Oh TTPD the AOTY you are