Dear Reader Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 1 hour ago, Great Username said: Robin is sooo good. When will society wake up The melodies are gorgeous, especially the "strings - tied - to - levers - slowed - down - clocks - tethered" section. But within the context of the album, it becomes literally tooooo powerful. "You look ridiculous and you have no idea / Buried down deep and out of your reach, the secret / We all vowed to keep it from you, in sweetness" at the end of an ablum all about Her loss of innocence and dignity - having Your youth stolen from You by a partner, degrading Yourself for fame, getting humiliated in the pursuit of real love The concept of Her loving and protecting Her friend's kid, while She's being sh*t-talked under the table, talking rings and talking cradles "Youve got a favourite spot on the swing set / You have no room in your dreams for regrets" alluding to the vain hopefulness She once had: "Ain't no way I'm gonna screw up now that I know what's at stake here / At the park where we used to sit on children's swings / Wearing imaginary rings" Finally some love for Robin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowRibbon Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 24 minutes ago, Great Username said: Let's hyperfixate on the undisputed queer trinity of The Anthology: I Hate It Here - I Look In People's Windows - Peter But first, a moment for Down Bad Did you really beam me up? In a cloud of sparkling dust Just to do experiments on She was ******* insane for this Oh the pain of being someone's queer experimentation Did you take all my old clothes? Just to leave me here naked and alone In a field in my same old town That somehow seems so hollow now They'll say I'm nuts if I talk about the existence of you AAAAAA Karlie taking Her old clothes... And "they'll say I'm nuts if I talk about the existence of you"... Must we spell it out... I'll build you a fort on some planet Where they can all understand it How dare you think it's romantic Leaving me safe and stranded LIKE???? The pining for a planet where people are less ignorant... The allusions to 1989 error...... Like I lost my twin I don't think anything needs to be said here. And needless to say the whole ablum is fraught with queer religious tension... "I just learned these people try and save you / 'Cause they hate you"... "What if I roll the stone away / Theyre gonna crucify me anyway / What if the way you hold me / Is actually what's holy"... "I got cursed like Eve got bitten" So then, I Hate It Here: All you'll ever be is My eternal consolation prize Ummmm You see I was a debutant in another life But now I seem to be scared to go outside The fact that debutantes literally come out I hate it here so I will go to Lunar valleys in my mind When they found a better planet Only the gentle survived I dreamed about it in the dark The night I felt like I might die More allusions to a better planet, for "gentle"/enlightened people Kind of also harkens back to "I wanna transport you / To somewhere the culture's clever / Confess my truth" I'll save all my romanticism for my inner life I Look In People's Windows: I look in people's windows Transfixed by rose golden glows They have their friends over to drink nice wine The reference to golden The allusion to "rosé flowing with your chosen family" The connection to "I peered through a window / A deep portal / Time travel / All the love we unraveled / And the life I gave away / 'Cause he was sunshine I was midnight rain" Peter: Forgive me Peter My lost fearless leader In closets like cedar Preserved from when we were just kids Is it something I did The goddess of timing Once found us beguiling She said she was trying Peter was she lying My ribs get the feeling she did There isnt a plausible non-queer reading of this, like please Are you still a mind reader? A natural scene stealer I've heard great things Peter But life was always easier on you Than it was on me Aaa it's giving "Everybody wants you / Everybody wonders what it would be like to love you" it's giving "What must it be like to grow up so beautiful" And I won't confess that I waited But I let the lamp burn As the men masqueraded I hoped you'd return ?????? But the woman Who sat by the window Has turned out the light I look in people's windows, transfixed by rose golden glows I dreamed about it in the dark the night I felt like I might die I don't mind the Gaylor claims but I draw the line at Kaylor allegations... Not that upper lipless demon, Tay can do better 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Username Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 7 minutes ago, YellowRibbon said: Not that upper lipless demon, Tay can do better But enough about Joe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dear Reader Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 I'm sorry but 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swifthino Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Mixtape can legally drink now Happy 18th birthday debut! let's stream it's best song to celebrate! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carla Rosón Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Fellow swifties what are your thoughts on Taylor's lastest daughter, Katherine Jayne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrique523 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 4 hours ago, Carla Rosón said: Fellow swifties what are your thoughts on Taylor's lastest daughter, Katherine Jayne? Who is that? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleanromantic Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Me wanting to like @Great Usernamepost worshipping ttpd as it deserves to be worshipped, then seeing that all their praise leads up to delusional gaylorisms . 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrique523 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 1 hour ago, Cleanromantic said: Me wanting to like @Great Usernamepost worshipping ttpd as it deserves to be worshipped, then seeing that all their praise leads up to delusional gaylorisms . Gaylorism needed to die yesterday, it's a seriously toxic mindset and no serious Swiftie should ever entertain it. There's ZERO proof whatsoever that Taylor is queer in any way and even if she was, trying to overanalyze her life to "force" her to come out is seriously messed up. As an actual queer person myself i had close ones who tried to force me to come out to the world before i was ready and i can tell you it did serious damage to my mental health. And in the case of Taylor it's even worse because people want to impose a sexuality on her that she doesn't even have. The fact that Gaylorism was published in the NEW YORK TIMES of all places really showed how insane and out of hand the whole thing has gotten, people really need to stop. You are NOT helping queer people in any way by doing all of that 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Username Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Cleanromantic said: Me wanting to like @Great Usernamepost worshipping ttpd as it deserves to be worshipped, then seeing that all their praise leads up to delusional gaylorisms . My intertextual analysis >>> Im thirsty for more thoughtful analyses of TTPD, even from a hetero lens, if more than like 5 users on this braindead website could offer any Edited October 24 by Great Username 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor fanboy Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 2 minutes ago, Great Username said: My intertextual analysis >>> Im thirsty for more thoughtful analyses of TTPD, even from a hetero lens, if more than like 5 users on this braindead website could offer any The THICK lick back shade lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor fanboy Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 No annoying press and prs, just great music and visuals. ugh take me back to 2017! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Username Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, Enrique523 said: Gaylorism needed to die yesterday, it's a seriously toxic mindset and no serious Swiftie should ever entertain it. There's ZERO proof whatsoever that Taylor is queer in any way and even if she was, trying to overanalyze her life to "force" her to come out is seriously messed up. As an actual queer person myself i had close ones who tried to force me to come out to the world before i was ready and i can tell you it did serious damage to my mental health. And in the case of Taylor it's even worse because people want to impose a sexuality on her that she doesn't even have. The fact that Gaylorism was published in the NEW YORK TIMES of all places really showed how insane and out of hand the whole thing has gotten, people really need to stop. You are NOT helping queer people in any way by doing all of that Fact check: analysing Lord's music, noting connections and themes between texts, speculating on who She's singing about regardless of gender based on these texts, on a music and celebrity forum is not seriously toxic, isnt forcing anyone to come out, and isn't otherwise harming the Lord or any other queer person x Edited October 24 by Great Username Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Username Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 17 minutes ago, Taylor fanboy said: No annoying press and prs, just great music and visuals. ugh take me back to 2017! Not when this gif was literally from some flop Fedex promotion or something 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carla Rosón Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 5 hours ago, Enrique523 said: Who is that? get into this queen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrique523 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, Great Username said: Fact check: analysing Lord's music, noting connections and themes between texts, speculating on who She's singing about regardless of gender based on these texts, on a music and celebrity forum is not seriously toxic, isnt forcing anyone to come out, and isn't otherwise harming the Lord or any other queer person x Sure, whatever helps you sleep at night If you seriously believe having those insane conspiracy theories getting so big that it ends up in the NYT isn't doing harm, then i guess there's nothing that can be done to make you see reason. Taylor was clearly disturbed by this and you know it, otherwise her publicist wouldn't have talked about it. Edited October 24 by Enrique523 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lille Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Went to post in the album thread how TTPD is arguably Taylor's best album and it has been closed...why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeless Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 3 minutes ago, Lille said: Went to post in the album thread how TTPD is arguably Taylor's best album and it has been closed...why? Album threads close 6 months after its release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lille Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 1 minute ago, Timeless said: Album threads close 6 months after its release Wait, is that a rule for all album threads? Why?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
State of Grace. Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) 8 hours ago, Enrique523 said: Sure, whatever helps you sleep at night If you seriously believe having those insane conspiracy theories getting so big that it ends up in the NYT isn't doing harm, then i guess there's nothing that can be done to make you see reason. Taylor was clearly disturbed by this and you know it, otherwise her publicist wouldn't have talked about it. I agree with you. It's gotten really crazy. However, finding sapphic themes/meanings in her music and interpreting it in your way to personally relate to it is still harmless imo. I miss when gaylors only did that instead of being a delusional subcult stanning a completely different person that they made up in their empty heads. Edited October 24 by State of Grace. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goaty Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 ddd let me go check r/GaylorSwift. It's been a minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goaty Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 A Travis Kelce x Ross Travis secret lover conspiracy TikTok montage set to "You Belong With Me"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguintim Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 Any chance of us getting Holier Than Fiction TV on streaming this weekend for the 1989iversary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 I hope she recorded Crazier (Taylor's version) for debut TV. One of her absolute best songs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peak Now Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 14 hours ago, Goaty said: A Travis Kelce x Ross Travis secret lover conspiracy TikTok montage set to "You Belong With Me"? The way this is pretty tame by r/GaylorSwift standards 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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