TaylorNation Posted February 4 Posted February 4 wait how is Taylor NOT a Grammy darling? I would argue it’s the opposite tbh
Kodak Energy Posted February 4 Posted February 4 7 minutes ago, TaylorNation said: wait how is Taylor NOT a Grammy darling? I would argue it’s the opposite tbh Every time she won she had either the biggest album nominated by far, or the most critically acclaimed. Maybe even both with folklore. I don’t think any of her wins were undeserved but I feel like a lot of her losses are surprising. She’s liked by the Grammys but I wouldn’t call her a Grammy darling like Billie/Adele. 1
LostInStereo100 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Incoming gain in points, I…. This is before Vday boost, Super Bowl publicity boost, Grammy publicity boost, and Tour starting back up boost 1
HappierJealousy Posted February 4 Posted February 4 11 minutes ago, TaylorNation said: wait how is Taylor NOT a Grammy darling? I would argue it’s the opposite tbh A Grammy Darling that lose 15 out of her last 17 nominations? Then I could be Grammy Darling too
enchanted0 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Listening to Midnights preparing for the upcoming Grammy sweep
Hunter_13 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 1 hour ago, TaylorNation said: wait how is Taylor NOT a Grammy darling? I would argue it’s the opposite tbh She's only won two grammys in the past 7 years idk I'd think a "grammy darling" would have a better ratio than that.
NEX Posted February 4 Posted February 4 I feel like she will surprise us with a hard left turn with TS11. Reasons: 1. To show artistic growth. I'm sure even she knows Midnights isn't her best work 2. Midnights was served as a prelude to the Eras Tour and it needed to be a success oriented pop record to sell tickets. 3. She already demolished every possible success bar with Midnights/Eras Tour. She doesn't need to try to outdo herself yet again 4. Trying to outdo herself while falling short with another safe record will not be a good look. While having a moderately smaller, but still huge success with a significantly less commercial record would look terrific. 5. Freedom to try something she may have wanted to do in the past now that she literally got nothing left to prove.
fridayteenage Posted February 4 Posted February 4 7 hours ago, cat1867 said: I think it’s dance monkey with crazy numbers. I don’t think swifties will be ever come literal children. 2,985,790,240
TomasBrand Posted February 4 Posted February 4 3 hours ago, TaylorNation said: 等等，泰勒怎麼不是葛萊美寵兒？ 我認為事實恰恰相反 A grammy darling nominated 6 SOTY (now7) and win 0?
Nick_317 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Will we be able to cope when she wins her 4th AOTY and announce TS11 in her acceptance speech tomorrow?
Cleanromantic Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Taylor being a Grammy Darling is such oth'd bs caused by jealousy. She's never sweeped she only won 2 awards in 8 years Each time she won AOTY, she had to do a major career shift and/ or be undeniably the most commercially successful. The OTH are still holding on to 1989 winning over Kendrick because that's the only year she had competition in the category, but 1989 still deserved to win and is a legendary, classic, high quality album. If Taylor won over Lemonade or Renaissance like Adele/ Harry did, we'll never hear the end of it and she would legitimately be cancelled. Adele and Billie are Grammy darlings. 2
PoisonedIvy Posted February 4 Posted February 4 I’m sorry, I do not not not want her to win AOTY for Midnights. Because then if and when she gets her fifth it’s going to be so easy to discredit the validity of her wins by claiming they basically hand it to her a majority of the time she’s nominated in the category. She’s won more times than she’s lost in terms of her AOTY noms (Fearless / 89 / folklore VS Red & evermore) and when she finally does win a fourth time I don’t want it to be discredited for any reason (even though people have always and will always do that anyway ) Give her SOTY or ROTY and a couple pop awards and I’m good. But we’ll see how it all plays out, I’ll be happy regardless but we’ll just have a tougher battle down the line for AOTY 5 (when 4 is already such a massive, unprecedented achievement ) 2 1 1
mael Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) Give her soty that’s all I ask jesus. For someone who’s known for their songwriting it’s kinda baffling Edited February 4 by mael
hindsight Posted February 4 Posted February 4 just give her that AOTY and make the haters lose their minds like yeah, she'lll probably write albums way than Midnights but you never know when it could be her last chance of getting that honor again... 1
hindsight Posted February 4 Posted February 4 and she is known as an album artiste, having 4 AOTYs would be v on brand for her
40_L3VE Posted February 4 Posted February 4 If Taylor wins AOTY, she's going to be the face of "No Black Woman Has Won AOTY Since 1999". I doubt even she wants that. 5
PoisonedIvy Posted February 4 Posted February 4 55 minutes ago, 40_L3VE said: If Taylor wins AOTY, she's going to be the face of "No Black Woman Has Won AOTY Since 1999". I doubt even she wants that. I mean, not really. Kacey wasn’t in 2019, Billie wasn’t in 2020, Taylor (lol) wasn’t in 2021, (who tf won 2022???), and Harry wasn’t in 2023. Whatever “racial” backlash happens is usually confined to the most bitter corners of the internet because the institutional barriers that people of color face can never be attributed to one individual.
Peroxide Posted February 4 Posted February 4 6 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said: I mean, not really. Kacey wasn’t in 2019, Billie wasn’t in 2020, Taylor (lol) wasn’t in 2021, (who tf won 2022???), and Harry wasn’t in 2023. Whatever “racial” backlash happens is usually confined to the most bitter corners of the internet because the institutional barriers that people of color face can never be attributed to one individual. I’d like to agree with that but SO many people are gunning for SZA to snag the win, so I do see an onslaught of think-pieces and headlines coming down the pipeline if Taylor walks away with that specific award.
PoisonedIvy Posted February 4 Posted February 4 7 minutes ago, Peroxide said: I’d like to agree with that but SO many people are gunning for SZA to snag the win, so I do see an onslaught of think-pieces and headlines coming down the pipeline if Taylor walks away with that specific award. I think significantly more people have been wanting Beyonce to win (in online spaces at least) for her last 3 studio albums and yet Adele, Harry, and (whoever won the 2015 ceremony that self titled would’ve been nominated in, I cannot remember) all still have healthy careers that aren’t reduced to their victory over a woman of color at an awards show. I’m not denying you won’t see that narrative on Twitter or ATRL — you will. But what I am telling you is those are people making that argument in bad faith and just getting their shots in at Taylor however they can. But before you know it that line of rationale completely evaporates because it doesn’t hold its weight, it’s such a ludicrous statement! 1
vale9001 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) Sos won't win. I mean they never gave It to Beyoncé or Kendrick or Drake and now Sza should win?. It such a modest pop album and i really missed its cultural impact. People talked about It for 15 days and goodbye. At least the awards are rigged i really don't see the average Grammy voters even voting that as top3 of the most voted album in that list. If not midnights i see Olivia or Lana to win. Or Phoebe band Edited February 4 by vale9001 1
vale9001 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) People are so focused on this midnights vs SOS like they were last year with 30 vs reinassance or Lamar vs Lorde and than Styles and Bruno Mars won. I think people could boycott Taylor cause She already have three of them could easily vote for Olivia Rodrigo (than Sza) and her pop rock sound similar singer songwriter - persona. She was already nominated for the First album. It wouldn't be so crazy to see her to win. I don't get why people are always so focused on a bigger album vs bigger album. Edited February 4 by vale9001
Cleanromantic Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Rank Song 1 Maroon 2 Would've, Could've, Should've 3 Hits Different 4 You’re on Your Own, Kid 5 Midnight Rain 6 Anti-Hero 7 Bejeweled 8 The Great War 9 Glitch 10 Dear Reader 11 Lavender Haze 12 High Infidelity 13 Karma 14 Mastermind 15 Bigger Than The Whole Sky 16 Labyrinth 17 Paris 18 Sweet Nothing 19 Question...? 20 Vigilante **** 21 Snow on the Beach ft. Lana Del Rey That was very hard. This really put into prospective how strong Midnights is because practically the entire top 9 is number 1 for me , then 10-16 is number 2. Snow of the beach really missed the mark for me tbh. It's another example of two great artists working together and yet producing something forgettable. It's such a nothing of a song and does nothing for me .
40_L3VE Posted February 4 Posted February 4 1 hour ago, PoisonedIvy said: I mean, not really. Kacey wasn’t in 2019, Billie wasn’t in 2020, Taylor (lol) wasn’t in 2021, (who tf won 2022???), and Harry wasn’t in 2023. Whatever “racial” backlash happens is usually confined to the most bitter corners of the internet because the institutional barriers that people of color face can never be attributed to one individual. For Kacey and Billie it was their first and only win so far. If Taylor wins, it's gonna be last 25 years: Taylor 4 vs Black Women 0. 1
vale9001 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) 13 minutes ago, 40_L3VE said: For Kacey and Billie it was their first and only win so far. If Taylor wins, it's gonna be last 25 years: Taylor 4 vs Black Women 0. Grammy voters really vote for what they like. They are not still like the oscars. So no One It's gonna vote for Sza cause Beyoncé didn't win, they don't care. And i mean people have the right to vote for what they like or what's the point? To change things you have to change the voters with more people simply like r'n'b, soul etc.. instead of folk, indie rock, americana etc.. Whatever the voters are It's not Adele, Taylor, kacey, my uncle, my cat fault. Edited February 4 by vale9001
PoisonedIvy Posted February 4 Posted February 4 10 minutes ago, 40_L3VE said: For Kacey and Billie it was their first and only win so far. If Taylor wins, it's gonna be last 25 years: Taylor 4 vs Black Women 0. Ok, of the last 25 years Taylor has won 12% of the AOTY Grammys awarded. Adele has won 8% of them. And 20 other unique individuals/musical acts have won, so 80%. Black women, while having deserved a fairer share of the pie (Janelle Monae’s the ArchAndroid ) are statistically more likely to lose to any other individual artist than they are to “lose to Taylor Swift” by a rate of roughly 4:1, when extrapolating the last 25 years of data. All of this to say — it’s not “Taylor VS black women,” it’s “black women/POC are not validated by their peers/the general populace at the same rate as white people.” The issue is deeply rooted in the ethnic & cultural history of the US and cannot be attributed to some “mascot” that represents the shortcomings of a historically white system. Mind you, I really just think we should stop -wanting- validation from an institution that has to nearly be forced into giving it. Minority artists are so talented, creative, and forward thinking and I wish we could uplift them without feeling like they need to be recognized by an institution started by crusty old white men back when segregation was still the norm. But this is a complex topic and I understand all viewpoints surrounding it 2
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