State of Grace. Posted January 28 Posted January 28 (edited) Crediting Swiftmania to Midnights is fraudulent but sure, esp when the tour's theme song is basically Cruel Summer (2019) Edited January 28 by State of Grace. 4 1
TaylenaStan Posted January 28 Posted January 28 13 minutes ago, By the Water said: Midnights is thee album that represents her imperial phase lmao I'd say THE biggest tour of all time is a better representation for her imperial phase.. and the tour isnt marketed as the Midnights tour I mean the fact that Cruel Summer/Loser are outperforming Anti-Hero/Midnights 2
By the Water Posted January 28 Posted January 28 The only album in history that occupied the entire hot 100 top 10 isn't a good representation of swiftmania, sure. The album that outlasted thee 1989 on the BB200 top 10 and revived her hot 100/radio presence isn't a good representation of her 2023. I guess she just randomly chose it as the last set of the tour Of course CS is the song most associated with swiftmania but we're talking about albums here. Y'all think the album with AH, Karma, Bejeweled and YOYOK wasn't more important this past year than Lover? Pff 6 2
Dear Reader Posted January 28 Posted January 28 at the end of the day, what matters is that if you trash Maroon you’re absolutely tasteless. 7 1
Lemon Posted January 28 Posted January 28 Midnights gets kicks just because it is subdue record, but it is definitely rich and pretty detailed. It’s just not bombastic in a way some people expect I guess. Subliminal beats in Lavender Haze and Bejewelled, for example, are pretty great. Also, 3 AM version is definitely direct sequel to folkmore, just even more pop oriented, but WCS, Great War, Dear Reader are career highlights in my opinion. 4 2
Kodak Energy Posted January 28 Posted January 28 Is it weird I’d rather she lose aoty but pick up a bunch of smaller Grammys? Then she can keep winning loads and racking up awards rather than get that whole “overrated” narrative and be snubbed for good albums like she was for rep/lover. 2
littlebodybigheart Posted January 28 Posted January 28 the grammys are also about your presence in pop culture and even if you don’t think midnights deserves aoty, she deserves aoty just for her 2023 domination alone. 1
cat1867 Posted January 28 Posted January 28 I am fine either way if she wins aoty or not. I like Midnights but I can understand why some swifties dislike it after they got so hyped up from the months of teasing for a more subdued album. I hope she wins soty or less likely roty. Her next album is going to be huge . She’s going to have a few more opportunities for AOTY, winning for midnights will hurt those chances .
Cleanromantic Posted January 28 Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Lemon said: Midnights gets kicks just because it is subdue record, but it is definitely rich and pretty detailed. It’s just not bombastic in a way some people expect I guess. Subliminal beats in Lavender Haze and Bejewelled, for example, are pretty great. Also, 3 AM version is definitely direct sequel to folkmore, just even more pop oriented, but WCS, Great War, Dear Reader are career highlights in my opinion. I think the funniest thing is OMH convincing themselves of that the narrative they started in their own heads, the reception of Midnights being"lukewarm" has zero basis in reality because it has an 85 metascore and slayed year end lists. It's giving And then they'll call you a sheep when you point this out... 8
enchanted0 Posted January 28 Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Lemon said: Midnights gets kicks just because it is subdue record, but it is definitely rich and pretty detailed. It’s just not bombastic in a way some people expect I guess. Subliminal beats in Lavender Haze and Bejewelled, for example, are pretty great. Also, 3 AM version is definitely direct sequel to folkmore, just even more pop oriented, but WCS, Great War, Dear Reader are career highlights in my opinion. This so much. Even though Question…? - VS - Bejeweled - Labyrinth remains her worst track run of all time () the subdued sonic atmosphere on Midnights that only can be created by vintage synths (that costs like 5k+ for each) can not be belittled. The way people suddenly becoming music experts on internet (including myself for sure) is just sooo funny when they probably can’t even tell apart Serum and Prophet. Obviously Midnights is not her career high but as a whole album it def gives something that other artists can’t, and as an artist Taylor had a clear vision and did a great job to bring it, it’s very clear when you listen to 3AM version. Midnights remains an another strong album in her immaculate discography. Not to mention it dominated the entire year too. 3
Lemon Posted January 28 Posted January 28 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Cleanromantic said: I think the funniest thing is OMH convincing themselves of that the narrative they started in their own heads, the reception of Midnights being"lukewarm" has zero basis in reality because it has an 85 metascore and slayed year end lists. It's giving And then they'll call you a sheep when you point this out... 21 minutes ago, enchanted0 said: This so much. Even though Question…? - VS - Bejeweled - Labyrinth remains her worst track run of all time () the subdued sonic atmosphere on Midnights that only can be created by vintage synths (that costs like 5k+ for each) can not be belittled. The way people suddenly becoming music experts on internet (including myself for sure) is just sooo funny when they probably can’t even tell apart Serum and Prophet. Obviously Midnights is not her career high but as a whole album it def gives something that other artists can’t, and as an artist Taylor had a clear vision and did a great job to bring it, it’s very clear when you listen to 3AM version. Midnights remains an another strong album in her immaculate discography. Not to mention it dominated the entire year too. This exactly. I think that softer and “more silent/muter” melodies do come across as non-existent to some and it’s okay if someone wants to hear it that way, but it is not really true. Sonic soundscape of Midnights is not to be thrown and kicked on the floor like this. The funniest thing to me though is that people proclaim that Midnights is not well written, when she has been so expressive in so many songs. Like she is basically wordsmith and it is interesting that her writing here is being overlooked just because we are aware this is pop before we have listened to the album. Her lyricism stays strong and it shows how much depth she has extracted from folkmore and poured it into these songs as well. Have people listened to Mastermind, You are On Your Own Kid, Sweet Nothing? Glitch is poppy closure continuation. If the album pertained in folkmore’s soundscape, we would be seeing much less “criticism”, but since it is basically “calmer” pop, it is dismissed. And don’t get me started on how someone negatively critiquing Karma’s writing thinks they showcase album’s weakness when in fact that song remains her highlight here too - breeziness, quirky, unapologetic dorkiness, dry humour and all in function of Taylor’s core ethos. It is not deep like the 1, but it is deep in different way. As if something presented in bubblier way can’t be substantial, which when used as negative critique is giving “pop music is not as good as ( put a genre )”. Edited January 28 by Lemon 3
idkwiam Posted January 28 Posted January 28 6 hours ago, N.M.K. said: Lmao. Wait till you hear about Jack Antonoff! Ouuu. My DMs are always open. What did he do? OT: AM USA: #21. Reputation [+5] #22. Midnights TME One album has 22 tracks and the other has 15 and was released in 2017. #1 year end albums tend to wind in the end I fear 1
N.M.K. Posted January 28 Posted January 28 16 minutes ago, idkwiam said: Ouuu. My DMs are always open. What did he do? OT: AM USA: #21. Reputation [+5] #22. Midnights TME One album has 22 tracks and the other has 15 and was released in 2017. #1 year end albums tend to wind in the end I fear He did nothing lol. He’s just a Jewish person who- like most Jews- supports the right for Jewish people to have their own state (a Zionist) 1
idkwiam Posted January 28 Posted January 28 28 minutes ago, N.M.K. said: He did nothing lol. He’s just a Jewish person who- like most Jews- supports the right for Jewish people to have their own state (a Zionist) Oh wow. Another reason that our fave should stay away from him.
idkwiam Posted January 28 Posted January 28 (edited) Oh wow. Finally some debut praising on this badr. It's such an amazing album which gets overlooked for obvious reasons. It had such an immaculate singles run and imo her second best singles run after 1989. Tim McGraw Teardrops on my guitar Our Song Picture To Burn Should've Said No Whew CLASSICS after CLASSICS Edited January 28 by idkwiam
Tusk Posted January 28 Posted January 28 1 hour ago, N.M.K. said: He did nothing lol. He’s just a Jewish person who- like most Jews- supports the right for Jewish people to have their own state (a Zionist) Post the source of him saying that. Thanks! 1
Lille Posted January 28 Posted January 28 When "Crazier", "Dark Blue Tennessee" and "You'll Always Find Your Way Home" become back to back to back #1s when Debut (TV) are released, then what? THEN WHAT?!
Klein Posted January 28 Posted January 28 6 minutes ago, Lille said: When "Crazier", "Dark Blue Tennessee" and "You'll Always Find Your Way Home" become back to back to back #1s when Debut (TV) are released, then what? THEN WHAT?! I'm afraid it won't happen. Lucky You will be the #1 hit since it was the 1st song she ever wrote. We love a full circle moment. 59 minutes ago, idkwiam said: Oh wow. Finally some debut praising on this badr. It's such an amazing album which gets overlooked for obvious reasons. It had such an immaculate singles run and imo her second best singles run after 1989. Tim McGraw Teardrops on my guitar Our Song Picture To Burn Should've Said No Whew CLASSICS after CLASSICS It's not an opinion. It is the TRUTH.
Klein Posted January 28 Posted January 28 Aside from the singles, I really can't wait to hear Cold As You, Mary's Song and Invisible TV. Oh Debut TV the slay you're going to be 1
Klein Posted January 28 Posted January 28 2 hours ago, idkwiam said: Ouuu. My DMs are always open. What did he do? OT: AM USA: #21. Reputation [+5] #22. Midnights TME One album has 22 tracks and the other has 15 and was released in 2017. #1 year end albums tend to wind in the end I fear Cherry picking at its best. Midnights is doing 7k more SEA each week in the US while having already outstreamed Reputation, despite the 5 years advantage, a proper tour, and benefitting from Taylormania later down the line. And let's not ignore the hype for Rep TV to be announced soon is also helping Rep OG. 2
idkwiam Posted January 28 Posted January 28 31 minutes ago, Klein said: Cherry picking at its best. Midnights is doing 7k more SEA each week in the US while having already outstreamed Reputation, despite the 5 years advantage, a proper tour, and benefitting from Taylormania later down the line. And let's not ignore the hype for Rep TV to be announced soon is also helping Rep OG. Reputation TV has yet to be announced. We don't even know if it's really the next project or not
Klein Posted January 28 Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, idkwiam said: Reputation TV has yet to be announced. We don't even know if it's really the next project or not If you really want to ignore it and act like it doesn't matter, that doesn't make the rest of what I said any less true. I don't get why the Rep stans never stop at "Rep is better", but always have to try to prove that Rep is somehow performing better than her other pure pop albums. It used to be with Lover, dragging it for having no #1 singles. Since 2023 it's been pretty clear that Lover is blowing Rep out of the water. Now y'all are trying to argue with Midnights instead, and it still isn't landing or becoming true. It's perfectly fine to think Rep is her best pop album. I don't share this opinion but I can see why it would be very endearing. But pack it up with the need to show Rep is more successful than it really is (which is already a ******* lot), it's not surpassing Lover/Midnights, and Rep TV is not touching 1989 TV. 3
idkwiam Posted January 28 Posted January 28 Btw if Midnights really wins AOTY Aaron will not be awarded anything despite him inarguably having the best songs there with The GOD war and WCS. I wonder why she didn't send Midnights deluxe for AOTY. And yes it's possible to send the deluxe albums for Grammy's.
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