fan base Taylor Swift

[Ms. Togekiss]

I hate that reactors are using this video  it’s BOTCHED. They swapped the first and second choruses (when she says beg you on my knees to stay she stays standing?) like it’s SO anticlimactic. They also add unnecessary fan videos? I also hate that during the guitar solo they just focused on the back of her head instead of letting Paul shine 

 

there’s another channel too that reactors are using that does the same thing and it’s just a worse video of the performance. They take away the grand production just to focus on her or add shitty fan videos. But this video particularly takes the cake for the worst ******* edit I wish reactors had better fans in their comments letting them know which videos to react to specifically 

 

 

 

[Pop Fan]

3 hours ago, 19SLAYty9 said:

I think she’ll still be pop because it seems she changes genres whenever she plateaus or declines but I would love something more left field of pop similar to Robyn. Would love a new wave pop record. I also expect it to be something more European friendly giver her being huge there now after trying for years and years. Could also see pop that’s influenced by grunge 

She's not pandering or focusing on Europe like lets be real. She was and always will be an American artist that is focused on USA, everyone knows USA is the standard for everything, all of the main awards shows are USA-based, Billboard Charts and sales, streams, ticket sales...all of those things are most profitable in USA and every foreign artist wants to break out in USA. Even UK which is the 2nd biggest market is not close to USA's power. Successful but Local UK acts have very low streams, sales and tour gross, while being local but very successful in USA like Taylor was in her country days or Morgan Wallen can make you very very rich and a huge superstar with great stats. So yeah, europe genre are not popular in USA and they mostly flop there so Taylor is never gonna risk losing her USA audience like every achievement and record that is relevant comes from USA. Why should she care bout Europe, she already has lots of fans here that are gonna listen to her either way. 

[Badgalbriel]

5 hours ago, Cruel Summer said:

I wouldn’t be shocked if the next album is a little bit of a curveball in terms of sound. Much of Taylor’s immense success has been thanks, in part at least, to her ability periodically reinvent herself like the greatest stars of the past while keeping a powerful core lyrical identity. Since it seems possible that the Eras Tour will keep going through the next album’s release, at least if any of the various 2024 predictions comes to fruition, the next album doesn’t actually have to do the heavy lifting of being a pop album for the pop star. It makes sense in retrospect that Midnights was pretty much pure pop because it set the stage for the tour and for the comeback of her pop megastar persona after a few cute years as a cabin witch hiding out in the woods. This next one could be anything, though, because Taylor as a pop megastar is already immediately present thanks to the tour. It wouldn’t be shocking if it was just pop again, since she seems to love the genre, but she’s really in a position where another pivot would be the most interesting thing she could do.

 

I think I’m rooting for the rock album many of us have wanted for ages. It would be a natural evolution of the pop persona and perfectly stadium-ready. 

I feel like she only transitions to a different sound/genre when she understands that her current sound has reached its limit. 

 

It happened with country (speak now flopping, RED only having pop singles) 

Then, it happened with pop (Lover being considered the low point of her career) 

 

In my opinion, the next album is definitely going to be a pop album cause she wants to continue the huge success she's experiencing right now 

Edited December 21, 2023 by Badgalbriel

[Arrows]

I‘d really like either a SMASH ballad or a SMASH dancefloor hit. For a career as big as hers, it’s surprising she doesn’t really have either. She has lots of hit ballads but none of them really transcended into global classics.

[Pop Fan]

4 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said:

I feel like she only transitions to a different sound/genre when she understands that her current sound has reached its limit. 

 

It happened with country (speak now flopping, RED only having pop singles) 

Then, it happened with pop (Lover being considered the low point of her career) 

 

In my opinion, the last album is definitely going to be a pop album cause she wants to continue the huge success she's experiencing right now 

100% agreed

[Klein]

I understand why a pop album would be logical success-wise to capitalize on all the hype she built/is building, but depending on how things play out, I would really like her to pivot.

 

If she releases TS11 before the end of The Eras Tour/the re-recording project, I'd want it to be another pop album. Capitalize on everything queen. 

 

But if she releases TS11 after all that, I hope it's something new. She spent 3 years already, soon to be 4, being self-referential, past-oriented, even Midnights' theme is about revisiting her past in hindsight. I need her to go forward after all this, and switching genres would be a perfect way to introduce something new in her discography. 

[Badgalbriel]

25 minutes ago, Klein said:

I understand why a pop album would be logical success-wise to capitalize on all the hype she built/is building, but depending on how things play out, I would really like her to pivot.

 

If she releases TS11 before the end of The Eras Tour/the re-recording project, I'd want it to be another pop album. Capitalize on everything queen. 

 

But if she releases TS11 after all that, I hope it's something new. She spent 3 years already, soon to be 4, being self-referential, past-oriented, even Midnights' theme is about revisiting her past in hindsight. I need her to go forward after all this, and switching genres would be a perfect way to introduce something new in her discography. 

As long as it's not pop-rock or rock, I'm all for it 

[cat1867]

27 minutes ago, Klein said:

I understand why a pop album would be logical success-wise to capitalize on all the hype she built/is building, but depending on how things play out, I would really like her to pivot.

 

If she releases TS11 before the end of The Eras Tour/the re-recording project, I'd want it to be another pop album. Capitalize on everything queen. 

 

But if she releases TS11 after all that, I hope it's something new. She spent 3 years already, soon to be 4, being self-referential, past-oriented, even Midnights' theme is about revisiting her past in hindsight. I need her to go forward after all this, and switching genres would be a perfect way to introduce something new in her discography. 

I don't think she will leave pop for a long time if ever. The other genres just aren't as welcoming to her. She was already pretty pop before leaving country. 

 

However, there are so many different types of pop music . I am sure TS 11 will be an evolution of her sound and not just Midnights part 2.

[chiliam]

6 hours ago, Pop Fan said:

TS11 will obviously be pop. It's not gonna be as ubiquitous as 1989, with 1989 she really created such a strong, kinda over-the-top promotional campaign, she wanted to become the biggest superstar in the world and she executed that era perfectly, she was so hungry for success but right now she is even bigger than she was in 2014 and the excessive promo would probably turn people off. But it will definetly have more smash hits on it than Midnights, like no one thought Midnights is gonna be this huge so she probably had less pressure while making it but Taylor is extremely smart and shes making the best music when she knows that the whole world will be tuned in and that she has the chance to have one of the successful eras of all time and that lots of people are just waiting to crizicize her and call her overrated. She understands her unprecedented demand and hype and she'll use it very wisely. She probably has like the same amount of hype as Adele had after 21. She will not let this once in a lifetime oppurtunity go to waste. Midnights, re-records and Eras tour hype is so massive like she's obviously breaking tons of records again. And she won't even need a huge promotion, she's just gonna push diff variants/covers, create some countdown event, leave some surprises for release day, few talk shows and some easter eggs in the first week. Everything else would be unnecesary. I seriously can't wait to witness this smashery, it's 100% gonna be one of the most dominant and iconic eras ever. I think we can all agree that Taylor is the smartest artist ever, like no one has ever mastered the industry like she did. And those that did reach her heights were groups that eventually disbanded or artists that had problems dealing with fame, scrutiny and addcition or they just didn't care about staying on top and wanted to be more lowkey, its exhausting and probably so overwhelming to be this huge but Taylor is extremely mentally strong and has an insane passion and drive and also an amazing support system.

well said well said

we truly stan the right girl, insanely talented but also insanely passionate even after all of these countless overwheleming success

[idkwiam]

We will probably see Don't Blame Me daily outstreaming the global repeak Anti-Hero in the next month.

 

 

[Klein]

12 minutes ago, cat1867 said:

I don't think she will leave pop for a long time if ever. The other genres just aren't as welcoming to her. She was already pretty pop before leaving country. 

 

However, there are so many different types of pop music . I am sure TS 11 will be an evolution of her sound and not just Midnights part 2.

The other genres aren't welcoming? She was the biggest country artist before leaving the genre. When she switched to pop, she became the top dog in the category. When she switched to alternative with folklore/evermore, she was more acclaimed than ever (and it arguably saved her career) and folklore is a roaring success and already a classic. She has always been met with a warm welcome in every genre she delved into. 

 

I agree with you that she was already pretty pop before 1989. I'd even say that all her albums have strong pop sensibilities from the get-go (maybe not so much on Debut, but Fearless onward certainly). Despite these pop sensibilities, I would never classify Debut/Fearless/Speak Now/folklore/evermore as pop albums (Red is a bit of a toss up, it touches on way too much things to truly be considered something specifically). If she switches genre, she'll retain her pop sensibilities, that's for sure. 

 

15 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said:

As long as it's not pop-rock or rock, I'm all for it 

I'd actually love it. An album in the vein of State Of Grace/Holy Ground would be amazing imo. 

Edited December 21, 2023 by Klein

[cat1867]

1 minute ago, Klein said:

The other genres aren't welcoming? She was the biggest country artist before leaving the genre. When she switched to pop, she became the top dog in the category. When she switched to alternative with folklore/evermore, she was more acclaimed than ever (and it arguably saved her career) and folklore is a roaring success and already a classic. She has always been met with a warm welcome in every genre she delved into. 

 

I agree with you that she was already pretty pop before 1989. I'd even say that all her albums have had strong pop sensibilities from the get-go (maybe not so much on Debut, but Fearless onward certainly). Despite these pop sensibilities, I would never classify Debut/Fearless/Speak Now/folklore/evermore has pop albums (Red is a bit of a toss up, it touches on way too much things to truly be considered something specifically). If she switches genre, she'll retain her pop sensibilities, that's for sure. 

 

I'd actually love it. An album in the vein of State Of Grace/Holy Ground would be amazing imo. 

Since she left country,  she hasn't done great outside pop/hac radio when she tried to serve non pop songs to them.

 

We have a different definitions of pop which is what causes the confusion. I still consider folklore and evermore still pop despite their alternative influence. Her songwriting with its catchy hooks  is what makes her post red music pop. To truly leave pop would require her to really change her songwriting style.  

 

But I am looking forwarding  to her stadium rock album which I hope is TS 11.

 

[idkwiam]

2 minutes ago, cat1867 said:

Since she left country,  she hasn't done great outside pop/hac radio when she tried to serve non pop songs to them.

 

We have a different definitions of pop which is what causes the confusion. I still consider folklore and evermore still pop despite their alternative influence. Her songwriting with its catchy hooks  is what makes her post red music pop. To truly leave pop would require her to really change her songwriting style.  

 

But I am looking forwarding  to her stadium rock album which I hope is TS 11.

 

This is true but also I would say that the serviced songs on the country radio weren't that much country. What did she think when she sent NYD at country for example. If she somehow returns to country she needs to work with proper country producers.

[Pop Fan]

18 minutes ago, chiliam said:

well said well said

we truly stan the right girl, insanely talented but also insanely passionate even after all of these countless overwheleming success

I'm glad you liked it and that you agree with me. I worked so ******* hard to put all my thoughts about TS11 in a extremely long but still very focused essay lmao

[cat1867]

3 minutes ago, idkwiam said:

This is true but also I would say that the serviced songs on the country radio weren't that much country. What did she think when she sent NYD at country for example. If she somehow returns to country she needs to work with proper country producers.

I bet you think about me and betty were pretty country even through their sounds weren't on trend for current country music. The current trends don't seem well suit to Taylor. I think she will eventually comeback but now not that time.

 

She also sent over a few songs to alternative radio which performed alright but not super well.

[Klein]

8 minutes ago, cat1867 said:

Since she left country,  she hasn't done great outside pop/hac radio when she tried to serve non pop songs to them.

I mean, even her pure pop music was struggling on pop radio for a while (Reputation/Lover). 

 

9 minutes ago, cat1867 said:

We have a different definitions of pop which is what causes the confusion. I still consider folklore and evermore still pop despite their alternative influence. Her songwriting with its catchy hooks  is what makes her post red music pop. To truly leave pop would require her to really change her songwriting style.  

We do have a different definition because for me, folklore and evermore are alternative albums with pop sensibilities in terms of structure and melodies, but sonic-wise they are not really in the pure pop realm. 

[cat1867]

Just now, Klein said:

I mean, even her pure pop music was struggling on pop radio for a while (Reputation/Lover). 

 

We do have a different definition because for me, folklore and evermore are alternative albums with pop sensibilities in terms of structure and melodies, but sonic-wise they are not really in the pure pop realm. 

Definitely not pure pop but still pop. Pop is such amorphous genre.

 

Pop radio loves her now and is giving her songs great longetivity so I don't think she will ditch the format for TS 11.  Pop is still giving her great success so she won't ditch it for a while.

 

Considering that she seems to be creating TS 11 with Jack and Aaron, I am hoping for a more stadium rock influenced album that will still be "pop" but an evolution in sound.

 

 

[Klein]

1 minute ago, cat1867 said:

Definitely not pure pop but still pop. Pop is such amorphous genre.

 

Pop radio loves her now and is giving her songs great longetivity so I don't think she will ditch the format for TS 11.  Pop is still giving her great success so she won't ditch it for a while.

 

Considering that she seems to be creating TS 11 with Jack and Aaron, I am hoping for a more stadium rock influenced album that will still be "pop" but an evolution in sound.

I think we have a different view on her albums genres (I see them as X with pop sensibilities, you see them as pop with X sensibilities), but in the end it seems we want the same thing: an evolution of her sonic-palette. 

[Solaria]

9 hours ago, wastedpotential said:

Now sis there's no reason to start redeeming End Fame, everyone hates ha 

Never hated ha and never will its a BOP

[Klein]

Just now, Love Again said:

Never hated ha and never will its a BOP

We all stan some flops, keep loving End Career with pride! 

[Solaria]

5 minutes ago, Klein said:

We all stan some flops, keep loving End Career with pride! 

I’m sure you as an Eversnore stan would know all about stanning flops!

 

[NEX]

I can't deal with this DROUGHT. I need new music or at least some kind of announcement 

 

Edited December 21, 2023 by =NEX=

[dobrevv]

most probably fake but  deuxmoi does get sometimes things right,taylor recorded something recently with kendrick lamar 

[Klein]

35 minutes ago, =NEX= said:

DROUGHT

Now sis

 

[Solaria]

1 hour ago, =NEX= said:

I can't deal with this DROUGHT. I need new music or at least some kind of announcement 

 

Y’all havent had a drought since Aug 23, 2019 bffr