fan base Taylor Swift

[spiritboy]

I think people are very harsh and unfair about Taylor because of her enormous success. Unlike some people calling her "less talented"  than other female artists, i do think she's very talented. Not everyone can sing 3+ hours on a stadium stage plus she is a brilliant songwriter whose songs resonate with millions of people around the globe. I think that alone is making Taylor very happy. I do think her real impact in the industry will be known in 10 to 20 years, she's probably the first and the only artist to have her re-recorded albums go #1. That alone is a huge achievement and is an impact. If it's that easy, then every female artist should re-record their albums and release and show us how well they fare   Anyway, rant is over, i love Taylor and i love her relationship with Swifties.

 

P.S I also love her love respect towards Madonna, wish their rendition of Ghosttown was released.

[Anti-Hero]

1 hour ago, Klein said:

1070 streams for a single song? Goddamn 

 

My most played track of 2023 is Maroon, with 141 plays. I only have one album that surpassed 1000 streams so far this year (unlikely another one will though), and it's evermore at 1800. 

I play music almost the whole day, while Im at work, while I shower, while I cook, while I am walking on the street 

 

My most played album is midnights at 2,662 plays and Lover at 1,820 (because of Cruel Summer )

[cat1867]

1 hour ago, wastedpotential said:

My really early predictions are that the Grammys are going into an Oprah year ("you get a trophy and you get a trophy and you get a trophy, everyone gets a trophy"), so she'll probably only walk away with a couple so that all of the big names who show up also get to walk away with something. 2021 was a perfect example of an Oprah year, since almost all the big names who were nominated (Taylor, Billie, Harry, Dua, Gaga/Ariana) all each took home one trophy (and even Bey only got 4 on account of her being featured on Savage).

 

That being said, from most to least likely that I think she'll get it:

SOTY - I think she's too beloved for them to taunt her with this for the seventh time and then still give it to someone else 

PVA - seems pretty locked given the competition, but there's the outside chance it goes to Olivia here

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PSP - maybe, but I think this will either go to Miley or Billie depending on what else they might win

PDGP - I'm thinking this might go to Lana/Jon or Labrinth/Billie, but Taylor/Ice have a chance

ROTY - Miley or SZA or Jon Batiste (if he doesn't sweep the RnB categories, that is), I'm pretty doubtful Taylor has a shot

AOTY - SZA all the way. The voting blocs are too competitive for pretty much everyone else and they aren't giving it to Taylor again this decade

 

From GoldDerby,  PVA- she is a lock there since pop voters really favor the most successful albums. guts's commercial success isn't enough to be competitive.

PDGP- Pop voters again go for the biggest hit here consistently and her song is by the far biggest.

AOTY- Is actually the most likely gf for her to win as genre splitting is really important there. Pop has by far the most voters and guts and endless summer vacation won't take many votes due to their lack of commercial success outside their lead singles.  In general, you need more than 3 pop nominees in AOTY for an different genre album to win.  Boygenius and SZA are significant competitors but will struggle due to those genres struggling to get cross over votes from other genres.

SOTY- Voters really like voting for big hits here but sometimes vote for smaller songs if they have narratives. Flowers is really competive here and Kill Bill could get it with vote spiltting. Voters have historically cared about subject matter here which favors anti-hero slightly but flowers subject matter is also grammys bait.

PSP- competing with flowers again. pop voters again usually favor the biggest hit.

ROTY- same as soty but with voters caring less about lyrics.

Edited November 12, 2023 by cat1867

[wastedpotential]

10 minutes ago, cat1867 said:

From GoldDerby,  PVA- she is a lock there since pop voters really favor the most successful albums. guts's commercial success isn't enough to be competitive.

PDGP- Pop voters again go for the biggest hit here consistently and her song is by the far biggest.

AOTY- Is actually the most likely gf for her to win as genre splitting is really important there. Pop has by far the most important voters and guts and endless summer vacation won't take many votes due to their lack of commercial success outside their lead singles.  In general, you need more than 3 pop nominees in AOTY for an different genre album to win. 

SOTY- Voters really like voting for big hits here but sometimes vote for smaller songs if they have narratives. Flowers is really competive here and Kill Bill could get it with vote spiltting. Voters have historically cared about subject matter here which favors anti-hero slightly but flowers subject matter is also grammys bait.

PSP- competing with flowers again. pop voters again usually favor the biggest hit.

ROTY- same as soty but with voters caring less about lyrics.

Oh I absolutely agree that this is probably how the votes will shake out, but I'm also almost 100% positive that the academy leadership and the show-runners can and will shuffle around who actually wins to try and entice as many big name acts to show up as they can for the sake of the telecast. It made zero sense for Taylor to win AOTY in 2021 but lose every single one of her other noms (especially PVA) if the academy leadership didn't also want to give Dua some speaking time and didn't want HER to win SOTY (especially considering she got none of her category awards). With Anti-Hero, Kill Bill, and Flowers all really competitive across SOTY/ROTY, I'm pretty sure the powers that be will give Taylor SOTY (since it's what she really wants), Miley ROTY (since Flowers was the biggest hit of them all), and SZA AOTY since A) they need to repair the legitimacy damage from Harry's win last year, B) giving it to Taylor again so soon after folklore's win will only damage the legitimacy of the award further, and C) ESV was an underperforming album. 

 

It really just depends on how much the vote results are actually respected, but I'm pretty much set in thinking Taylor will take home one GF award (SOTY being more likely ROTY and AOTY) and one genre award (PVA over PSP and PDGP), cause then both Anti-Hero and Midnights are celebrated, there are no narratives of another "undeserved white sweep", Taylor doesn't win her record-breaking fourth AOTY over another round of "better" candidates (not that I actually think they're better but that will be the narrative). Right now the Grammys have lost a lot of their cultural cache in the past decade and are desperately trying to get people to watch and care, and that fact leads me to believe the leadership will put their finger on the scale in some categories to make sure that the "right" song/album wins.  

[Ampersand13]

2 hours ago, Klein said:

My most played track of 2023 is Maroon, with 141 plays. I only have one album that surpassed 1000 streams so far this year (unlikely another one will though), and it's evermore at 1800. 

The amount of taste in this one post alone 

[cat1867]

5 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

Oh I absolutely agree that this is probably how the votes will shake out, but I'm also almost 100% positive that the academy leadership and the show-runners can and will shuffle around who actually wins to try and entice as many big name acts to show up as they can for the sake of the telecast. It made zero sense for Taylor to win AOTY in 2021 but lose every single one of her other noms (especially PVA) if the academy leadership didn't also want to give Dua some speaking time and didn't want HER to win SOTY (especially considering she got none of her category awards). With Anti-Hero, Kill Bill, and Flowers all really competitive across SOTY/ROTY, I'm pretty sure the powers that be will give Taylor SOTY (since it's what she really wants), Miley ROTY (since Flowers was the biggest hit of them all), and SZA AOTY since A) they need to repair the legitimacy damage from Harry's win last year, B) giving it to Taylor again so soon after folklore's win will only damage the legitimacy of the award further, and C) ESV was an underperforming album. 

 

It really just depends on how much the vote results are actually respected, but I'm pretty much set in thinking Taylor will take home one GF award (SOTY being more likely ROTY and AOTY) and one genre award (PVA over PSP and PDGP), cause then both Anti-Hero and Midnights are celebrated, there are no narratives of another "undeserved white sweep", Taylor doesn't win her record-breaking fourth AOTY over another round of "better" candidates (not that I actually think they're better but that will be the narrative). Right now the Grammys have lost a lot of their cultural cache in the past decade and are desperately trying to get people to watch and care, and that fact leads me to believe the leadership will put their finger on the scale in some categories to make sure that the "right" song/album wins.  

I don't think they shuffle around the votes unfortunately. Elsewise last year they would have given Beyoncé AOTY and Taylor SOTY.  The rigging happens in the nomination process not the voting. Grammys aren't the VMAs.

 

2021 made sense considering folklore got a ton of crossover genre support from alternative and rock which made up for losing pop votes narrowly to Dua.

 

Also Taylor is likely not showing up to the Grammys considering that she has her first of 4 Japan show on the 7th and the Grammys are late on the 4th.  She loses 2 days in traveling considering the time zone and will likely have a dress rehearsal on the 6th considering that she had one after the break between Mexico and Argentina.

[Ampersand13]

Maybe I'm delulu but the only general field win I see her having a shot at is SOTY. And then with the sub-categories pop vocal and pop/duo being as close to a given as she can get. 

 

I'd love for Midnights to take AOTY but I'm also more than okay with SZA taking it, especially if Taylor can finally get SOTY  Honestly, my ideal outcome is for SZA to win AOTY, Taylor SOTY, and Miley ROTY. Women sweeping the general categories and sharing the love. Taylor's got so much left to give, I think she'll have no problem securing an AOTY again at a later point even if I think Midnights deserves it for Maroon alone. 

[Arrows]

This is INSANE, airlines are the most ruthlessly greedy companies usually.

 

 

 

 

[LostInStereo100]

108.4 million Spotify listeners I….

 

She just keeps leaping and leaping. 110 million with Brazil dates next week

[HRHCOLLECTION]

4 hours ago, Timeless said:

Guys I noticed something.

Going into the 6 LA shows, there were 3 surprise songs left to sing from 1989 and we ended up getting the 1989 TV announcement when she sang the last one "New Romantics". 

Now, there are also 3 surprise songs left to sing from reputation. I suspect that a reputation TV announcement is imminent before the month ends. She's either going to save IDSB or DBATC as the last one and it will be at the last Brazil show. 

REPUTATION TV IS COMING GET READY  

Dbatc is on lover though and she’s played it before

[Arrows]

27 minutes ago, wastedpotential said:

Oh I absolutely agree that this is probably how the votes will shake out, but I'm also almost 100% positive that the academy leadership and the show-runners can and will shuffle around who actually wins to try and entice as many big name acts to show up as they can for the sake of the telecast. It made zero sense for Taylor to win AOTY in 2021 but lose every single one of her other noms (especially PVA) if the academy leadership didn't also want to give Dua some speaking time and didn't want HER to win SOTY (especially considering she got none of her category awards). With Anti-Hero, Kill Bill, and Flowers all really competitive across SOTY/ROTY, I'm pretty sure the powers that be will give Taylor SOTY (since it's what she really wants), Miley ROTY (since Flowers was the biggest hit of them all), and SZA AOTY since A) they need to repair the legitimacy damage from Harry's win last year, B) giving it to Taylor again so soon after folklore's win will only damage the legitimacy of the award further, and C) ESV was an underperforming album. 

 

It really just depends on how much the vote results are actually respected, but I'm pretty much set in thinking Taylor will take home one GF award (SOTY being more likely ROTY and AOTY) and one genre award (PVA over PSP and PDGP), cause then both Anti-Hero and Midnights are celebrated, there are no narratives of another "undeserved white sweep", Taylor doesn't win her record-breaking fourth AOTY over another round of "better" candidates (not that I actually think they're better but that will be the narrative). Right now the Grammys have lost a lot of their cultural cache in the past decade and are desperately trying to get people to watch and care, and that fact leads me to believe the leadership will put their finger on the scale in some categories to make sure that the "right" song/album wins.  

Just curious, if you believe the show-runners can just change the winners like this, why even care about the Grammys? The reason I still find them interesting is because I know the results are based on the opinions of thousands of musicians, but if I  thought it was that rigged, I probably wouldn’t care.

[Timeless]

1 minute ago, HRHCOLLECTION said:

Dbatc is on lover though and she’s played it before

Omg I meant DWOHT 

This is so embarrassing ugh I'm such a fake swiftie lemme just kms and delete my account while I'm at it 
 

[Bosque]

3 hours ago, on the line said:

I think SOTY would be the top prize for her this year. Obviously, she's nominated for AOTY, but I don't think people will give it to her on principle because she just won for folklore a few years ago, whether or not Midnights deserves AOTY.

I'm really feeling SOTY for Anti-Hero. It's such a universally appealing and timeless song. I think WWIMF is big competition for that also, but Taylor really deserves that award and Anti-Hero would be such a fitting song to win it. 

 

If we ignore all previous wins, I do think Midnights would be a Top 3 contender for AOTY (and it's by far my favorite album of 2022), as it is I think Lana or SZA will take it and they'd both be very deserving winners. Boygenius could also sneak in as the indie winner, which I wouldn't be mad about since their album is great 

Edited November 12, 2023 by Dephira

[Club classic]

I need her to do a Labyrinth (even though she just performed it) and Mirrorball mash-up next!

[Cleanromantic]

I don't see her winning SOTY. The competition is too great for that one. I'm more confident about Pop Vocal Album and I do feel like Midnights is the most deserving of that award. Maybe she'll get best pop solo performance as well if she's lucky. 

[SpeakNowTv]

4 hours ago, Timeless said:

Guys I noticed something.

Going into the 6 LA shows, there were 3 surprise songs left to sing from 1989 and we ended up getting the 1989 TV announcement when she sang the last one "New Romantics". 

Now, there are also 3 surprise songs left to sing from reputation. I suspect that a reputation TV announcement is imminent before the month ends. She's either going to save IDSB or DBATC as the last one and it will be at the last Brazil show. 

REPUTATION TV IS COMING GET READY  

i also think she'll save the last one for an announcement, i guess it all depends on when she's gonna sing the other two

[Timeless]

Just now, SpeakNowTv said:

i also think she'll save the last one for an announcement, i guess it all depends on when she's gonna sing the other two

She will definitely sing the other 2 within the next 7 shows. Reputation TV announcement is coming by the end of this month 

[Aiya]

6 minutes ago, Cleanromantic said:

I don't see her winning SOTY. The competition is too great for that one. I'm more confident about Pop Vocal Album and I do feel like Midnights is the most deserving of that award. Maybe she'll get best pop solo performance as well if she's lucky. 

Feels like she’ll win pop categories and that’s it, I hope I’m wrong.

[Klein]

2 minutes ago, Timeless said:

She will definitely sing the other 2 within the next 7 shows. Reputation TV announcement is coming by the end of this month 

I actually think the album will be announced in February. Just like 1989 TV was announced in August (8th month), Reputation TV will be announced in February (2nd month), which follows the clock in the Karma MV. 

 

I also think it's more fitting that Reputation TV is released right before the start of the European leg, and then Debut TV right before the last NA leg. 

[Timeless]

2 minutes ago, Klein said:

I also think it's more fitting that Reputation TV is released right before the start of the European leg, and then Debut TV right before the last NA leg. 

So you think Reputation TV will be released between March-May and Debut TV between September-November?

Girl you know damn well the gap will not be THAT big 

[Gladiator]

 

this made me laugh 

[Klein]

8 minutes ago, Timeless said:

So you think Reputation TV will be released between March-May and Debut TV between September-November?

Girl you know damn well the gap will not be THAT big 

Well 1989 TV was released 3 and 1/2 months after Speak Now TV. I'm sure the gap between 1989 TV and Rep TV will be bigger since 1989 TV is so big and will probably be doing numbers for quite some time. Even then, with a late March release, that's barely a 5 months gap between 1989 and Rep. 

[Arrows]

What I most hope for on TS11 is fresh lyrical themes.

[Taylor fanboy]

58 minutes ago, Gladiator said:

 

this made me laugh 

What in the Midsommar @ksmith 

[SpeakNowTv]

1 hour ago, Klein said:

I actually think the album will be announced in February. Just like 1989 TV was announced in August (8th month), Reputation TV will be announced in February (2nd month), which follows the clock in the Karma MV. 

yeah i think so too