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[Starchild]

3 minutes ago, Enrique523 said:

!!!!

 

Seriously, that song is so underrated, i have no idea why it's not on everyone's list of favorite 1989 songs 

You're always serving taste sis 

 

not the nyd slander in here  can yall control yourselves?

[Enrique523]

I'm seriously sick and tired of all the "MID" jokes, especially since it comes from people who have yet to explain how the album is supposedly "mid" 

 

It has some songs on it that aren't that good but overall it's an amazing album. There's a reason why it gave her first true hit single in many years and why it's still getting so many streams every day 1 year later.

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Starchild said:

You're always serving taste sis 

 

not the nyd slander in here  can yall control yourselves?

Thank you, i can say the same thing about you, always a pleasure to read your posts 

[Goaty]

For me, some of the songwriting on Midnights is clunky in a way that noticeably detracts from my enjoyment.
 

Sometimes the clunk isn’t significant enough or the song succeeds in spite of it (Anti-Hero), and sometimes it ruins the song for me (Snow on the Beach). 
 

Contrast that with something like Cardigan (or any of Folklore and Evermore, for that matter), and it feels like Midnights suffers from a failure to edit. 

[Magickarp]

31 minutes ago, Ampersand13 said:

I NEVER see enough love for Dear Reader and it is top tier on Midnights. The bridge alone >>>
 

To a house not a home, all alone cause nobody’s there

Where I pace in my pen and my friends found friends who care 

SPILL, it's thematically a better closer for the whole 13 sleepless nights concept too  her own Idle Worship

"You should find another guiding light"  Hack's vocoder really HIT here, & in MR

 

 

[Goaty]

And to be fair, “clunk” is a common criticism I have of her entire discography. But she entirely eliminated it on the pandemic albums, so for it to return now makes me less charitable with my displeasure. 

[Goaty]

And lastly, one of her strengths as a songwriter is to take a small detail and somehow make it vivid in its description of her experience while simultaneously making it feel universal to an experience I, the listener, can share with her.
 

Some of that magic is lost to me on Midnights. Not sure I can articulate why? Perhaps our lives have diverged enough that I can’t really relate to as much as I once could - or maybe it’s a reflection of her songwriting being unsuccessful for me. Or maybe some combination of the two. 

[Magickarp]

As much as i hate Hack, for me, Anti-Hero was ruined by Miss Swift only  Sexy baby, & the entire bridge completely kill the song for me.

 

1 minute ago, Goaty said:

And lastly, one of her strengths as a songwriter is to take a small detail and somehow make it vivid in its description of her experience while simultaneously making it feel universal to an experience I, the listener, can share with her.
 

Some of that magic is lost to me on Midnights. Not sure I can articulate why? Perhaps our lives have diverged enough that I can’t really relate to as much as I once could - or maybe it’s a reflection of her songwriting being unsuccessful for me. Or maybe some combination of the two. 

Curious wottice your thoughts on 1989's songwriting in comparison to MID?

[fridayteenage]

Multi week #1 film! Others to do that this decade without relying on an existing franchise:

Smile, during halloween month

Bullet Train

Free Guy

The Little Things

The Marksman

Freaky

Honest Thief

Tenet

 

The Bad Guys

Encanto

Raya and the Last Dragon

Onward

 

Mostly male-led. Whew, a box office it girl. 

[Kyle-x]

We aren't ready for this Target exclusive debut TV track

 

 

[Goaty]

1 hour ago, Magickarp said:

Curious wottice your thoughts on 1989's songwriting in comparison to MID?

1989 is better. Yes it’s more generic, but this is outweighed by its melodies and compositions. 

 

I will always favor melody and production over lyrical content; I’m listening to a song, not reading a poem. If the actual audio of the song doesn’t feel good, I don’t care how lyrically complex it is.   

[Timeless]

Taylor girlllllll stop going to games every week and actually PROMOTE 1989 TV 
 

 

[Lille]

Why does she need to promote an album of rerecorded material that is already a massive success? Let her live, ffs

[Kyle-x]

The way at times I've related to both the narrator and the subject of this song.  I hope we get a performance of this on tour at some point. Truly one of her most honest and heartbreaking songs ever, one of the most important hidden gems of her career.

 

 

[Starchild]

8 minutes ago, Lille said:

Why does she need to promote an album of rerecorded material that is already a massive success? Let her live, ffs

idk how they want this woman to live. Her own fans call her relationships PR, complain when she's not seen but then complain when she's out living her life etc 

 

also the forced criticisms towards midnights lyrics never made any damn sense. its a pop record, where you really expecting folkmore writing on it? That's not the point of the album and it sure as hell isn't worse than 1989 where there's almost no personality. Midnights is to me the first time she was able to include great lyrics with pop music. All her other pop albums have worse inconsistent lyrics.

 

and maybe if you can't figure out what's wrong with the album after trying really hard to find a flaw then maybe just maybe there's nothing wrong with it? 

[Starchild]

3 hours ago, Enrique523 said:

I'm seriously sick and tired of all the "MID" jokes, especially since it comes from people who have yet to explain how the album is supposedly "mid" 

 

It has some songs on it that aren't that good but overall it's an amazing album. There's a reason why it gave her first true hit single in many years and why it's still getting so many streams every day 1 year later.

I didn't see your post before my rant  but yes this!

Its always "there's just something about it but I can't figure out what but it's mid anyway" like....huh?

I never understood the hate midnights gets here (but all her discography gets hated on by her fans lbr) it's lyrics for being a pop record are miles better than rep and lover, she really used what she learned on folklore here and Idk how people can't see that 

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Starchild said:

I didn't see your post before my rant  but yes this!

Its always "there's just something about it but I can't figure out what but it's mid anyway" like....huh?

I never understood the hate midnights gets here (but all her discography gets hated on by her fans lbr) it's lyrics for being a pop record are miles better than rep and lover, she really used what she learned on folklore here and Idk how people can't see that 

OMG THANK YOU!!!! That's what i've been thinking for a long time now and it's just driving me crazy how people apparently can't see it 

 

I love both Reputation and Lover (especially Reputation) but lyrically they don't hold a candle to Midnights.

[Kyle-x]

Her songwriting quirks are fun and cheeky, they're not very often objectively bad. The duality is part of her charm. She can do serious and she can do frothy. There's room for both! I think it's great that the same audience that can connect to "you drew stars around my scars but now i'm bleeding" will also love "karma is a cat purring in my lap because it loves me". The multifacetedness of her songwriting is part of what has given her her longevity and success. I think the problem some people have with it is that they can clapback at a hater that criticizes her songwriting with an "ivy" but they can't do that with a "Bejeweled" ddd.

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Kyle-x said:

Her songwriting quirks are fun and cheeky, they're not very often objectively bad. The duality is part of her charm. She can do serious and she can do frothy. There's room for both! I think it's great that the same audience that can connect to "you drew stars around my scars but now i'm bleeding" will also love "karma is a cat purring in my lap because it loves me". The multifacetedness of her songwriting is part of what has given her her longevity and success. I think the problem some people have with it is that they can clapback at a hater that criticizes her songwriting with an "ivy" but they can't do that with a "Bejeweled" ddd.

And that's something a LOT of Swifties can't seem to understand: not ALL of her songs are to be evaluated the same way. Just enjoy her silly songs for what they are instead of complaining that they're not "intellectual" enough. I love me some deep lyrics and i love me some silly fun songs and there's nothing wrong with that. Hell i don't even dislike ME! THAT much even if it was the absolute wrong choice for first single (or even as a single at all).

[Goaty]

51 minutes ago, Starchild said:

also the forced criticisms towards midnights lyrics never made any damn sense. its a pop record, where you really expecting folkmore writing on it? That's not the point of the album and it sure as hell isn't worse than 1989 where there's almost no personality. Midnights is to me the first time she was able to include great lyrics with pop music. All her other pop albums have worse inconsistent lyrics.

 

and maybe if you can't figure out what's wrong with the album after trying really hard to find a flaw then maybe just maybe there's nothing wrong with it? 

At a certain point this all is just a matter of taste. I don't find 1989 lacking in personality (but if you do then that's perfectly fine!) and I can't think of a line off 1989 that just -- for lack of a better word -- "clunks" like this does:

 

Quote

Did you hear my covert narcissism I disguise as altruism
Like some kind of congressman?

This line is full of personality, sure, but it just doesn't sound good to me. And if it doesn't sound good, then I don't really care what it's trying to say.

 

 

[hindsight]

I don't care for like half of Mid's standard version tbh  many undercooked songs that don't add anything interesting to her discography. 

 

The release of the 3AM version was cool bc it was a chaotic surprise indeed, but honestly I wish she had put the best standard and 3AM tracks together and deleted the filler instead... I guess she wanted to make a sonically cohesive (lmao) record, and that's why the standard was all Hack, but a less cohesive, short and stronger album >>> a bloated album with filler tracks. 

 

I wish she would stop with these long ass albums, it has been a problem for a while lol Red, Rep and Lover could all have benefited from having only the best 13-14 tracks, and then 2-3 target bonus tracks like 1989 since that's her thing...

[Enrique523]

2 hours ago, hindsight said:

I don't care for like half of Mid's standard version tbh  many undercooked songs that don't add anything interesting to her discography. 

 

The release of the 3AM version was cool bc it was a chaotic surprise indeed, but honestly I wish she had put the best standard and 3AM tracks together and deleted the filler instead... I guess she wanted to make a sonically cohesive (lmao) record, and that's why the standard was all Hack, but a less cohesive, short and stronger album >>> a bloated album with filler tracks. 

 

I wish she would stop with these long ass albums, it has been a problem for a while lol Red, Rep and Lover could all have benefited from having only the best 13-14 tracks, and then 2-3 target bonus tracks like 1989 since that's her thing...

...can you guys just stop at this point? You are all so embarrassing i swear. If it wasn't for "Hack" she wouldn't have had two massive hits recently, including the current #1 song in the US. The Jack Antonoff hate is mental illness at this point 

[TaylenaStan]

12 minutes ago, Enrique523 said:

...can you guys just stop at this point? You are all so embarrassing i swear. If it wasn't for "Hack" she wouldn't have had two massive hits recently, including the current #1 song in the US. The Jack Antonoff hate is mental illness at this point 

And just because he is part of 2 of her recent smashes we cant criticize him?  For lots of us his production has been getting incredibly stale and repetitive. Lots of songs are starting to sound the same/follow his usual formula. The production on Midnights felt really anemic at times. 

That doesnt mean that we hate him  Hes part of lots of great tracks  (August, This is Me Trying, Getaway Car, Look etc) and certainly i wouldnt mind if she works with him again in the future but i really want her to work with new producers to spice things up. I feel like if TS11 is another Jack project it will basically be Midnights 2.0

Edited October 23, 2023 by TaylenaStan

[hindsight]

10 minutes ago, Enrique523 said:

...can you guys just stop at this point? You are all so embarrassing i swear. If it wasn't for "Hack" she wouldn't have had two massive hits recently, including the current #1 song in the US. The Jack Antonoff hate is mental illness at this point 

talking about mental illness but having a meltdown over a harmless nickname...

 

[Badgalbriel]

I just don't get you guys calling Midnights a mediocre album. It's greta from the first song to the last. 

 

Lavender Haze is good

Maroon is amazing 

Anti Hero is a perfect pop song

Snow on the Beach is beautiful 

You're on your own kid is also beautiful 

Midnight Rain is good

Question is terrible

Vigilante Shiit is terrible too

Bejeweled is a nice pop song

Labyrinth is just so beautiful 

Karma is meh, but ok

Sweet Nothing is also just so so so beautiful 

Mastermind is the perfect album closer

 

And this is just the standard version. The 3AM tracks elevate this album even more. There are 3 bad tracks in it. 

Edited October 23, 2023 by Badgalbriel