Klein Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 30 minutes ago, 1989 said: High Infidelity is top two on Midnights, I won’t be taking questions at this time. I'm gonna have to disagree and say that's it's only top 3.
Goaty Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 Labyrinth is one of my favorites on Mid, but I feel like there aren’t many others who feel the same way. 3 4
Goaty Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 Honestly if I could Frankenstein the Mid tracklist w/ the 3AM edition and make my own standard it’d probably be my favorite album of hers
Steve Johnson Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Ms. Togekiss said: The delusion in this tweet is insane the eras tour will not go over $1.2B please Now where is the delusion? My estimates are roughly the same.
Dear Reader Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 She did something when she called this one "Timeless" cause that's exactly how this song sounds. I love it so much and I never see praise for it. 4
Lille Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 36 minutes ago, Goaty said: Labyrinth is one of my favorites on Mid, but I feel like there aren’t many others who feel the same way. Ever since I read somewhere that the noises at the beginning sound like Jack getting his cheeks clapped, I can't listen to it the same way. 5
1989 Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Klein said: I'm gonna have to disagree and say that's it's only top 3. Fair enough, all long as its brilliance is recognized.
4Real Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 Red is perfect, even with its less than good songs (TLT, EHC). Not counting The M0ment I Knew here cuz yikes!
Achilles. Posted October 4, 2023 Author Posted October 4, 2023 Imagine her surprise releasing TS11 the same week Beyoncé’s film premieres. 1
Dear Reader Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 - OT: I don’t believe the TS11 rumors but I hope she proves me wrong
Achilles. Posted October 4, 2023 Author Posted October 4, 2023 But really, a new album of original material would be the perfect final chapter for the biggest year of her career. It’s kinda necessary, maybe. Like. If 2023 will always be the peak of her legacy, she would want it to be more than just a tour and a couple rerecordings. 1
wastedpotential Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Ms. Togekiss said: The delusion in this tweet is insane the eras tour will not go over $1.2B please Yeah this really isn't too off-base, IMO. We know for a fact from the attendance figures in the reviews of almost every date that the total attendance for the first NA leg (including CDMX) was probably around 3.5 million (65k/night). We can also probably assume an average ticket price of somewhere between $200 and $250, giving the first NA leg an estimated gross of 700-875M. In the rest of LatAm, I'm seeing most estimates for attendance at 75k/night in BsAs, and we know there were 60k/night in Rio, and 44k/night in SP from the information tab here. Assuming an average ticket price of about $140 (though this depends on where currencies are by the time of gross reporting), that's a total leg attendance of 538k and an estimated leg gross of 75.3M (including the 4 CDMX shows with a $180 average and 230k attendees, the thirteen LatAm are at about 120M); though again, this depends a lot on currency exchange rates when they do the date reporting. That right there is somewhere between 775 million and 950 million from the 2023 dates (of which there were 66). In 2024, the numbers are a lot more speculative, but she has 88 shows, all of which are in higher income markets with higher than average ticket prices. Asia+Australia (210k tickets in Tokyo, 280k tickets in Melbourne, 320k tickets in Sydney, and 320k tickets in Singapore) will probably average between $180 and $220/ticket, or somewhere between 200M and 250M (with 1.13M tickets), again depending on exchange rates (though these are more stable). Europe is a massive wildcard, since the ticket prices and venue sizes vary massively, but assuming the average venue holds about 53k in the Eras stage setup (which seems to be on the conservative side but factors in the smaller crowds in Paris, Liverpool, and Zurich compared to the larger crowds in London and Madrid), and assuming the average European ticket is somewhere between $160 and $190 (again on the pretty conservative side), then that's a leg gross of 410M-490M (estimated total crowd of 2.54M; and assuming the exchange rate stays about where it is today). Finally, the second NA leg is also all over the place. Miami, NOLA, and Indianapolis all look like they'll be over 65k, but there's no way Toronto is over 55k, so I'd say the leg average attendance will split the difference and be somewhere around 60k (915k total), and with the same ticket averages from the first NA leg (though the tickets on the second leg actually seem to be higher), that brings a total gross of 185M-230M. Thus, my current predictions for the Eras gross are somewhere between 1.57 Billion and 1.92 Billion with total attendance somewhere around 8.6 Million (though I'm less confident in this estimate). The only way Eras ends up anywhere near to 1.2B is if the value of the Dollar vs. the Yen, SGD, AUD, Euro, GBP, SEK, CHF, PLO, and CAD absolutely craters in the next year, which I think is highly unlikely. 2
greento Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Goaty said: Labyrinth is one of my favorites on Mid, but I feel like there aren’t many others who feel the same way. Easily top 5 for me beautiful song, and the outro is *chefs kiss* 1
Toxicity. Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 Bad Bunny is threatening to drop the week before 1989 (he’s doing double SNL) Taylor always has the fight the biggest battles (mostly men) releasing near her
Holiest Dreams Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Ms. Togekiss said: The delusion in this tweet is insane the eras tour will not go over $1.2B please Those numbers are probably slightly inflated but $1.2B? She’ll do way more than that and easily so, be serious 1
roso Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 fff I was cleaning up and I found ME!ss CD single/BBMAs Live Rehearsal Audio that I'd ordered during the chart battle against OTR the PTSD, 2019 truly was the great war.m4a
Holiest Dreams Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Achilles. said: But really, a new album of original material would be the perfect final chapter for the biggest year of her career. It’s kinda necessary, maybe. Like. If 2023 will always be the peak of her legacy, she would want it to be more than just a tour and a couple rerecordings. Yeah, I mean, I would be very here for this. I know people are gonna say it’s overkill, but really, is it? She has infinite demand at the moment that can’t seem to be satisfied no matter what she does. Releasing the breakup album as a surprise and getting it out of the way around maybe Dec 1st would be an amazing move. It’ll also take off some of the weight for expectations commercially, so she can wait and go all out with another album (TS12?) in 2025 or something. And sure, she’d compete with the holidays, but she’s so big at the moment that it would probably pull an SOS (but much bigger lol) and have tracks re-entering and surging in January once things go back to normal. Idc what anyone says, I need this to happen Edited October 4, 2023 by Holiest Dreams
Steve Johnson Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Holiest Dreams said: Yeah, I mean, I would be very here for this. I know people are gonna say it’s overkill, but really, is it? She has infinite demand at the moment that can’t seem to be satisfied no matter what she does. Releasing the breakup album as a surprise and getting it out of the way around maybe Dec 1st would be an amazing move. It’ll also take off some of the weight for expectations commercially, so she can wait and go all out with another album (TS12?) in 2025 or something. And sure, she’d compete with the holidays, but she’s so big at the moment that it would probably pull an SOS (but much bigger lol) and have tracks re-entering and surging in January once things go back to normal. Idc what anyone says, I need this to happen Yeah, same thoughts here.
Dear Reader Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Holiest Dreams said: Yeah, I mean, I would be very here for this. I know people are gonna say it’s overkill, but really, is it? She has infinite demand at the moment that can’t seem to be satisfied no matter what she does. Releasing the breakup album as a surprise and getting it out of the way around maybe Dec 1st would be an amazing move. It’ll also take off some of the weight for expectations commercially, so she can wait and go all out with another album (TS12?) in 2025 or something. And sure, she’d compete with the holidays, but she’s so big at the moment that it would probably pull an SOS (but much bigger lol) and have tracks re-entering and surging in January once things go back to normal. Idc what anyone says, I need this to happen The only thing holding me back from believing this is that I don’t see how she would fit songs in the setlist without sacrificing almost all the Eras. I don’t know, I really would love for it to happen. We would be so lucky.
Achilles. Posted October 4, 2023 Author Posted October 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Goaty said: Honestly if I could Frankenstein the Mid tracklist w/ the 3AM edition and make my own standard it’d probably be my favorite album of hers Midnights has lots of great tracks. I really struggle with which tracks have to be the ones to miss my top 10. A common problem in her catalog. 1
dussel_06 Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Ms. Togekiss said: The delusion in this tweet is insane the eras tour will not go over $1.2B please I know some swifties want to be conservative to not get drag later on but 1.2B is outright disrespectful. Beyonce’s tour average is at 10M and Era’s has 146 dates. If Taylor is at the same level as Beyonce’s touring power, she would at least gross 1.5B with 146 dates. But it’s common sense that she’s bigger than that. Like way bigger….
stevenisFADING Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 16 minutes ago, Toxicity. said: Bad Bunny is threatening to drop the week before 1989 (he’s doing double SNL) Taylor always has the fight the biggest battles (mostly men) releasing near her she'll be fine for her release week but after that is a toss-up and honestly not really worth working yourself up for because he's got new material and most of 1989 tv is just re-recordings.
Achilles. Posted October 4, 2023 Author Posted October 4, 2023 When it’s actually her Christmas album with the Holiday Collection TVs, Christmas Tree Farm, and 5-6 new songs.
Lille Posted October 4, 2023 Posted October 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, Achilles. said: When it’s actually her Christmas album with the Holiday Collection TVs, Christmas Tree Farm, and 5-6 new songs. I will be sat, "Christmases When You Were Mine" without Baby Lord vocals sounds like a dream.
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