venuss Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 I'm not ready for the collapse that will be 1989 TV
Tusk Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Yellowfever said: did Taylor invent this concept? srsly asking No Stevie Nicks has had an unofficial one for many years.
Tusk Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, venuss said: I'm not ready for the collapse that will be 1989 TV That Saturday will be crazy waiting for the 1 million prediction.
Goaty Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 25 minutes ago, venuss said: I'm not ready for the collapse that will be 1989 TV My expectations for the vault content are nothing short of unreasonable.
1989 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Imagine calling Midnights a bad album when it gave us Maroon and High Infidelity, two of her best songs. 3
fridayteenage Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 hmm, i have heard people say they're in a good girl gone bad era, but not any of rih's other albums. it's just an immediately evocative title.
mael Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) G*** sitting at 91 while it took Taylor a decade to receive an ounce of acclaim. This just makes the scores for Her recent albums and re-records feel less legitimate. IDC if this gets reported I’m just venting Edited September 12, 2023 by mael 3
Steve Johnson Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, mael said: G*** sitting at 91 while it took Taylor a decade to receive an ounce of acclaim. This just makes the scores for Her recent albums and re-records feel less legitimate. IDC if this gets reported I’m just venting Gutter is not good. It's barely listenable. It deserves 61-71, not 91. 3 1
greento Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 7 hours ago, Dephira said: Not gonna say this in a different thread, but Taylor definitely did a lot to popularize the whole "eras" concept. Other artists have definitely done retrospectives of their career or showed off different iconic outfits during a performance, but Taylor was the first time I've ever heard people in real life literally talk about an artist's different "eras", or say stuff like "I'm in my folklore/Red/reputation era right now This 100%. the whole “im in my _____ era” thing that people have started saying, started because of the Eras tour/Taylor’s Eras. OTHs aren’t gonna like it, but it’s literally a fact. And it’s become a very well known thing. 1 1
ugo Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 36 minutes ago, LiamVillain said: will she attend VMAs? Yeah I think she's winning some awards
Holiest Dreams Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, mael said: G*** sitting at 91 while it took Taylor a decade to receive an ounce of acclaim. This just makes the scores for Her recent albums and re-records feel less legitimate. IDC if this gets reported I’m just venting You have to put things into context though. Back when Taylor was starting out, women in mainstream pop (or country) music were still not taken seriously by critics, sans a very few examples. It was especially bad for young women, and her making music that was aimed at young women who could relate to her life phases was another layer added to discount her work. Her earlier albums always landing in the upper 70s was actually a very rare occurrence back then, not to mention the retrospective acclaim lots of her projects have seen. It’s hard to judge what critic scores even mean anymore when almost anyone can score 85+, so those 76-77 scores back in the day were comparable. Basically you have to adjust for inflation With that said, I definitely agree though with the sentiment. For example, 1989 is absolutely the biggest reason for the wave of Poptimism, yet it didn’t get to reap the benefits from it (at least initially) And I’ll never get over the 8.0 and 7.9 for folkmore from P4K. They’re obviously good scores still, but when many other subpar albums received the same or higher than that it just feels insulting. 1
fridayteenage Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 eh, critics top 10 lists are better than initial metascores. https://www.metacritic.com/feature/critics-pick-top-10-albums-of-2014 #6. i'm sure she'd much rather have that and, say, her aoty win than if the album had an 80 on metacritic. 1
Peak Now Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, Holiest Dreams said: You have to put things into context though. Back when Taylor was starting out, women in mainstream pop (or country) music were still not taken seriously by critics, sans a very few examples. It was especially bad for young women, and her making music that was aimed at young women who could relate to her life phases was another layer added to discount her work. Her earlier albums always landing in the upper 70s was actually a very rare occurrence back then, not to mention the retrospective acclaim lots of her projects have seen. It’s hard to judge what critic scores even mean anymore when almost anyone can score 85+, so those 76-77 scores back in the day were comparable. Basically you have to adjust for inflation With that said, I definitely agree though with the sentiment. For example, 1989 is absolutely the biggest reason for the wave of Poptimism, yet it didn’t get to reap the benefits from it (at least initially) And I’ll never get over the 8.0 and 7.9 for folkmore from P4K. They’re obviously good scores still, but when many other subpar albums received the same or higher than that it just feels insulting. Time to mention yet again that Pitchfork reviewed Ryan Adams' cover of 1989 but not the actual album when it came out And yes, I think nowadays critics are reluctant to go all in on young and/or female artists like Olivia, which of course is a good thing but it also inadvertently leads to grade inflation. Pitchfork is probably the one place with the least inflation in comparison with your conventional media outlets, tbh. 1
Dear Reader Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Taylor Swift said: It’s been awhile since we praised The Great War and Would’ve, Could’ve, Should’ve, huh? I still remember listening to the Midnights l word and then being WHIPLASHED when she released the 3am tracks and the intro to The Great War penetrated my soul 3
queenoftheclouds Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 15 hours ago, fridayteenage said: she won for album 2 album 5 (+3) album 8 (+3) released in 2008 2014 (+6) 2020 (+6) maybe she'll win for her 2026 album. What If the Grammys have This as a Secret rule and Taylor knows that.
FolkLover1989 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Guys Don't engage with Better Than Revenge account It's a setup/dupe account by an OTH most probably a Britney and Beyonce stan Best to do is ignore atp
LiamVillain Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) HELP- again??? Edited September 12, 2023 by LiamVillain
Steve Johnson Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 8 hours ago, mael said: G*** sitting at 91 while it took Taylor a decade to receive an ounce of acclaim. This just makes the scores for Her recent albums and re-records feel less legitimate. IDC if this gets reported I’m just venting 7 hours ago, Steve Johnson said: Gutter is not good. It's barely listenable. It deserves 61-71, not 91. Who tf reported these? It's Taylor base and we can discuss whatever we want here. 2
Steve Johnson Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, LiamVillain said: HELP- again??? Hypocrite
FolkLover1989 Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 Can't believe now we have to deal daily with what Olivia team publishes about Taylor on daily basis Like if you hate her so much why even talk about it
PaloSanto Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 She's gonna sweep at the VMAs but will she be attending tho
venuss Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 I think a good option is just stop giving that girl attention (if you're not into her music), because she clearly benefits from it. 2
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