Dear Reader Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 an album with a song such as Maroon obviously deserves AOTY 1
JorgeM Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 I don’t want Midnights to win AOTY it would make the opposite effect for Taylor, it would quit importance to her previous victories. This is not BBMAs and success should not be the main driver. Fearless, 1989 and folklore deserved it due to their importance for their genres, quality and Taylor’s career. I like Midnights and for me is not a bad album at all but it doesn’t anything for turn Taylor in first artist ever in winning 4 AOTY. Anti Hero otherwise should get song of the year, even ROTY should be possible. And Midnights best pop vocal album 6
chiliam Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 42 minutes ago, JorgeM said: I don’t want Midnights to win AOTY it would make the opposite effect for Taylor, it would quit importance to her previous victories. This is not BBMAs and success should not be the main driver. Fearless, 1989 and folklore deserved it due to their importance for their genres, quality and Taylor’s career. I like Midnights and for me is not a bad album at all but it doesn’t anything for turn Taylor in first artist ever in winning 4 AOTY. Anti Hero otherwise should get song of the year, even ROTY should be possible. And Midnights best pop vocal album yeah honestly we all want Taylor to snatch AOTY but we want her to snatch it without the backlash. Like Fearless and folklore, everyone was like well deserved, no argument. 1989 has that controversy with Kendrick`s album, the win was divisive but at least it`s still 50% 50. midnights winning would open a whole massive backlash, where it kinda tarnish her previous 3 wins (everyone will call her Grammy darling and no matter what she release, she will win, but that`s not the case at all, she lost most of her nominations and never won SOTY despite being the songwriter of this generation, her 3 AOTYS in 3 different genres are well deserved, they are surefire classic albums, no questions asked) she wouldn`t benefit at all with midnights winning 2
Badgalbriel Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Michael196 said: her getting AOTYs for these albums instead of sacRED & evermore is offensive enough, imagine if MID wins too For these albums as if 1989,folklore and Fearless are bad albums. I swear this website is so weird. 3
LiamVillain Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 I think a random artist will win AOTY next year (just like Jon Batiste's 'We Are')
JorgeM Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said: For these albums as if 1989,folklore and Fearless are bad albums. I swear this website is so weird. All of them deserved it more than red 1
Steve Johnson Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 16 minutes ago, chiliam said: honestly we all want Taylor to snatch AOTY but we want her to snatch it without the backlash. There will be no backlash, instead there will be a celebration of an artist finally winning a record 4 AOTYs, not to mention a female artist. Twitter meltdowns by stans of hasbeen artists will do no harm.
Enrique523 Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Badgalbriel said: For these albums as if 1989,folklore and Fearless are bad albums. I swear this website is so weird. Thank you Midnights absolutely deserves AOTY, who cares about "backlash" seriously. The "backlash" would only come from people who already hate her. 1
Lemon Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 (edited) Okay, this Midnights is not that great/good conversarion needs to stop. It is definitely well written, like every song is drenched in Taylor’s classiest and even positively goofiest lyricism. Her other ( pop ) albums don’t contain heavy hitters like Mastermind, which is like Taylor staple in regards for it being true to herself. And I could go on and on about literally every other song on the album. I think people want to diminish quality of this album just because there is not much bombastic production and because it comes after folkmore, but she definitely didn’t leave great songwriting of those two behind on Midnights. While Lover was sonically diverse, Midnights is also diverse, but more cohesive and gives you parts of different Taylor styles ( Lavender Haze, The Great War, Sweet Nothing, Glitch, Bejweled ). So yeah, it is her best pop record. Just because she has other pop masterpiece songs on other albums doesn’t mean Midnights isn’t good. And she even got Anti-Hero here, which despite being anti-Blank Space is equally good ( the one is about seductive, borderline psycho girl player character, the other is sombre representation and what Blank Space character actually is ), and will be one of her classics too. Edited September 11, 2023 by Lemon 3 3
Delusional Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 Mastermind is great but it is not a heavy hitter. 1
YellowRibbon Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 Midnights is her best pop record. If Harry's House won AOTY, I don't see how Midnights isn't deserving of that accolade as well. 5
Lemon Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Delusional said: Mastermind is great but it is not a heavy hitter. I am afraid the lyrics alone qualify it as such. And it also got one of the most interesting melodies and production on the album. 1
ATRL Moderator Ampersand13 Posted September 11, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted September 11, 2023 2 hours ago, PopA911 said: an album with a song such as Maroon obviously deserves AOTY SAY IT LOUDER One of my favorite songs! It does not get the love it deserves, I still go feral over the bridge and final chorus That's a real f**king legacy indeed Midnights is a much stronger body of work than some give it credit for, though I understand why it didn't resonate quite as strongly with certain fans (but that will always be the case to some degree anyway.) I still don't think it has a shot at winning AOTY, not because it doesn't deserve it, just because I have a feeling someone else will get it. I would really love to see Anti-Hero giving her SOTY/ROTY though, that would be a moment most pleasing. 3
Steve Johnson Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 22 minutes ago, YellowRibbon said: Midnights is her best pop record. If Harry's House won AOTY, I don't see how Midnights isn't deserving of that accolade as well. Exactly. Midnights deserve AOTY and I think it'll win too.
Steve Johnson Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 These tiRED stans need to stop dragging Midnights. RED lost AOTY, that doesn't mean Midnights is not deserving.
Steve Johnson Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 41 minutes ago, Enrique523 said: Thank you Midnights absolutely deserves AOTY, who cares about "backlash" seriously. The "backlash" would only come from people who already hate her.
Enrique523 Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 I absolutely LOVE 1989 but i fail to see how it's a better album than Midnights, honestly.
By the Water Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 If we were going off of quality, SN, Red and evermore should all be AOTY winners over 1989. Imagine not wanting Midnights to win because of some need to please people that will hate on her either way 1
Enrique523 Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 1 hour ago, By the Water said: If we were going off of quality, SN, Red and evermore should all be AOTY winners over 1989. Imagine not wanting Midnights to win because of some need to please people that will hate on her either way THIS This obsession some Swifties have with pleasing people who'll hate Taylor no matter what is just bizarre at this point 1
FolkLover1989 Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 So there is this new user better than Revenge Seems like they are an alt of an OTH hiding behind Taylor. Says nothing but negative about Taylor
queenoftheclouds Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 4 hours ago, Michael196 said: her getting AOTYs for these albums instead of sacRED & evermore is offensive enough, imagine if MID wins too Grammys don't have taste. 1
Thorn Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 Taylor can make history tomorrow by winning her 4th VOTY at the VMAs. I don't know if she'll get that award, but I have a feeling she's going to sweep it. Video of the Year or Artist of the Year are hers.
Vespertine Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 ME!dnights will be nominated but not win. It’s a matter of Grammys politics and optics regardless of whether or not the album deserves it. I do believe She will be the first artist to win x4 AOTY, but it won’t be this soon and with another pure pop album. I suspect She will milk Her massive peak with another pop album or two, and then maybe in 5-6 years go for another universal acclaim, critical darling era like folkmore. Then maybe it’ll be time for another AOTY. 1
YellowRibbon Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Vespertine said: ME!dnights will be nominated but not win. It’s a matter of Grammys politics and optics regardless of whether or not the album deserves it. I do believe She will be the first artist to win x4 AOTY, but it won’t be this soon and with another pure pop album. I suspect She will milk Her massive peak with another pop album or two, and then maybe in 5-6 years go for another universal acclaim, critical darling era like folkmore. Then maybe it’ll be time for another AOTY. The Grammys dropped the "optics" focus a long time ago... They literally awarded AOTY to Harry Styles for a mid album over Beyoncé, who had the better album among the nominees.
YR. Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 5 hours ago, JorgeM said: I don’t want Midnights to win AOTY it would make the opposite effect for Taylor, it would quit importance to her previous victories. This is not BBMAs and success should not be the main driver. Fearless, 1989 and folklore deserved it due to their importance for their genres, quality and Taylor’s career. I like Midnights and for me is not a bad album at all but it doesn’t anything for turn Taylor in first artist ever in winning 4 AOTY. Anti Hero otherwise should get song of the year, even ROTY should be possible. And Midnights best pop vocal album This. It would be embarrassing to win with a weak album, when she could have this moment with a great album in a matter of few years. 4
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