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[Lille]

18 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

I gotta be honest there are some REALLY annoying Swiffers on Twitter fanning the flames about the RWT movie, saying it’s all Taylor’s impact and she runs the industry.  As if both negotiations weren’t both happening behind the scenes probably concurrently. There’s no way Bey would’ve negotiated this so quickly “because” of Taylor’s announcement a few weeks ago. I know there’s some Hive that attack Taylor incessantly but I wish both fanbases would realize a cease fire is the only way for the fighting to end. Be the bigger people, it’s literally not even something worth fighting over. But that’s asking too much of Twitter stans  

Yea, I usually find myself agreeing with you, but to me...this seems to be very clearly a project that has resulted directly because of the Eras Tour movie. There's a reason it was such a disruptor within the film industry and trade after trade was reporting it as something that has never been done or even attempted in this manner before.

 

Twitter swiffers are absolutely deranged most of the time and they could definitely go about it with a ton more tact, but they're correct.

[PoisonedIvy]

13 minutes ago, maplelattes said:

Because it's true. Stop licking Beyoncé's ass.

AMC didn't "offer" the deal. Taylor CREATED the whole direct-to-theater format with AMC. she authored it. And then the same blueprint was applied to beyonce—AMC "offered" beyonce the same deal.

Taylor was disappointed by major film studios' deals, contacted the AMC CEO, decided the royalties, theatrical run structures etc. She figured it all out. She paved the way for Beyoncé.
 

 

6 minutes ago, liam13 said:

girl, its been a month since taylors announcement. ofc a deal like this could take weeks to negotiate but its not a coincidence that the day taylor announced eras tour film going to amc theaters, the news about beys visual film getting rejected left and right was released. one month later, you got beys concert film going to amc theaters, following who?

so yes, i say its taylors impact

 

3 minutes ago, Lille said:

Yea, I usually find myself agreeing with you, but to me...this seems to be very clearly a project that has resulted directly because of the Eras Tour movie. There's a reason it was such a disruptor within the film industry and trade after trade was reporting it as something that has never been done or even attempted in this manner before.

 

Twitter swiffers are absolutely deranged most of the time and they could definitely go about it with a ton more tact, but they're correct.

Even if Taylor’s AMC deal paved a path for Beyonces team to get this film deal, I don’t think that’s really an excuse for fans to instigate and provoke online. 
 

 

 

Idk it’s just a bit obnoxious to take a moment that’s exciting for a fanbase and immediately redirect the conversation to someone else. I don’t expect you guys to have to agree with me, it’s fine that you think otherwise, but I don’t think that’s me licking Bey’s ass so much as wanting Swiffers to get their head out of Taylor’s..

[By the Water]

The way even some of you insist on downplaying Taylor's impact for the sake of pleasing people that do that 24/7 

[By the Water]

Fanbases go around saying Taylor has no impact while claiming she copied their faves by posing in a certain formation, having a dancer vogue or having a marching band and we can't even point out how ironic that is when something like this happens? 

[State of Grace.]

15 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

 

 

Even if Taylor’s AMC deal paved a path for Beyonces team to get this film deal, I don’t think that’s really an excuse for fans to instigate and provoke online. 
 

 

 

Idk it’s just a bit obnoxious to take a moment that’s exciting for a fanbase and immediately redirect the conversation to someone else. I don’t expect you guys to have to agree with me, it’s fine that you think otherwise, but I don’t think that’s me licking Bey’s ass so much as wanting Swiffers to get their head out of Taylor’s..

Naurrr her fanbase on Twitter is indeed extremely unhinged and obnoxious. It just reeks of insecurity which is hilarious considering our fave is THEE biggest pop star (celeb actually) on earth by far and left everyone in the dust.

 

That being said, I do believe that Taylor's announcement could have influenced/accelerated Bey's deal behind the scenes though. There has clearly been a PR "war" between both Tree and Yvette (Bey's PR). Some of the articles are giving group project  

Edited September 30, 2023 by State of Grace.

[Feanor]

I mean if things happened the other way around and Taylor followed a theatrical model that Beyoncé did first, Taylor would've been called a copycat all over the internet and online forums. 

[réveuse]

43 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

I gotta be honest there are some REALLY annoying Swiffers on Twitter fanning the flames about the RWT movie, saying it’s all Taylor’s impact and she runs the industry.  As if both negotiations weren’t both happening behind the scenes probably concurrently. There’s no way Bey would’ve negotiated this so quickly “because” of Taylor’s announcement a few weeks ago. I know there’s some Hive that attack Taylor incessantly but I wish both fanbases would realize a cease fire is the only way for the fighting to end. Be the bigger people, it’s literally not even something worth fighting over. But that’s asking too much of Twitter stans  

🙌🏾

[PoisonedIvy]

12 minutes ago, By the Water said:

Fanbases go around saying Taylor has no impact while claiming she copied their faves by posing in a certain formation, having a dancer vogue or having a marching band and we can't even point out how ironic that is when something like this happens? 

I call that out for being ludicrous too. I can’t control how other people react but I can call both sides annoying. A spades a spade. 

[PoisonedIvy]

8 minutes ago, Feanor said:

I mean if things happened the other way around and Taylor followed a theatrical model that Beyoncé did first, Taylor would've been called a copycat all over the internet and online forums. 

So why can’t people lead by example and prove that that’s -not- how these kinds of things should be handled on either side?  

[YellowRibbon]

If things had been the other way around, #that fanbase would not have been considerate enough to let Swifties enjoy their moment... We've seen how annoying they become when someone follows #that woman's footsteps 

[liam13]

its called a taste of their own medicine, simple as that

anyway, oct is now. cant wait for opening day and opening week number

[YellowRibbon]

Just now, PoisonedIvy said:

So why can’t people lead by example and prove that that’s -not- how these kinds of things should be handled on either side?  

Because up until 2016 Swifties were a bunch of cupcakes that were afraid of actually debating things. That strategy clearly didn't work out as for years forums online and Stan Twitter itself downplayed the sh*t out of her 

[PoisonedIvy]

Anyway I’ll let it go, at the end of the day I know certain factions of both fanbases just don’t have the maturity I’m asking for. GLOATING on the achievements of someone else is whack from both ends and if that’s a hot take oh well. That’s the last I’ll say on it for now. Carry on 

[Steve Johnson]

Cut the crap. It’s a direct copy of Taylor’s formula. And no one is mad. At least we’re not calling out mayochella or LWYMMD standing in a straight line as an impact. 

[Steve Johnson]

And this copy thing has been going since the tour began in March. False demand of that tour (800%), fake 2.1 vs 1.6 billion dollar gross. Trying to put both in same level. 

[Steve Johnson]

I really need eras tour boxscore tomorrow. Like Taylor girl, release it now and start the eras film promo. 

[Goaty]

23 minutes ago, PoisonedIvy said:

So why can’t people lead by example and prove that that’s -not- how these kinds of things should be handled on either side?  

While noble and mature, this sentiment just isn’t something we’ll ever see in online stan communities. 

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, By the Water said:

The way even some of you insist on downplaying Taylor's impact for the sake of pleasing people that do that 24/7 

Right? Beyonce stans are f*cking CANCER on Twitter, they will never respect Taylor no matter how nice Swifties are. They're the ones who started this whole war the moment the Rennaissance Tour started and it became obvious it wasn't as impactful and big as the Eras Tour. They can't wrap their heads around the fact that Taylor is WAY above Beyonce in every way. I'm sick and tired of playing nice with them since they will never be respectful no matter what.

[PoisonedIvy]

5 minutes ago, Goaty said:

While noble and mature, this sentiment just isn’t something we’ll ever see in online stan communities. 

It’s more so just the lack of self awareness from people who complain about a behavior and then… retaliate with the exact same behavior. If you genuinely have an issue with the way someone handles a situation, how does handling it the exact same way do anything to resolve the core issue? It’s just creating a never ending cycle. But you’re right that’s too high of an expectation I guess 

[Steve Johnson]

Idk why this moral thing being brought up suddenly? This isn’t arms and weapons fight. 

[JawBreaker]

Get over this kumbaya **** 

 

Imma give the same energy back idc! 

 

 

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, YellowRibbon said:

Because up until 2016 Swifties were a bunch of cupcakes that were afraid of actually debating things. That strategy clearly didn't work out as for years forums online and Stan Twitter itself downplayed the sh*t out of her 

This is very true and one of the reasons why Taylor wasn't really considered a "main pop girl" for years despite her insane success. Swifties were too nice, too polite and as you say, Taylor got massively downplayed because of it. When people talked about pop queens, they talked about Gaga, Rihanna, Britney, Katy, Miley,... but almost never Taylor. Because most of the other fanbases were really agressive in establishing their faves's cultural and commercial importance and Swifties just didn't play the game, at least not the way it should be played.

 

Now of course it's a different story, which is why most of the fanbases are so constantly mad against Taylor, they can't deny her success and dominance anymore. But we have to deal with BS like she has "no impact" partially because Swifties didn't fight that narrative hard enough for years. I'm glad things are starting to change, other fanbases should not feel confident constantly viciously attacking Taylor and get a free pass for it. Swifties needed to grow some spine and i'm glad it's happening at this point.

[Lille]

By the way, I downloaded tiktok for the first time yesterday and signed up. I spent an hour and a half on that app before I looked up when my boyfriend asked if I was still on tiktok...DELETED, I REBUKE IT!

[fridayteenage]

Cruel Summer audio video aiming to pass Willow.

 

 

[Holiest Dreams]

Being nice doesn’t get you anywhere when it comes to online stan culture. Swifties were perhaps the only fanbase keeping it cute last summer when a certain era kickstarted, and we see where that got us. Swifties get blamed for literally everything, even when it’s a flat out lie (and it usually is), so I just don’t see the point in trying to be nice anymore 

 

It’s not that serious, definitely, but that also applies to the on-going arguments between fanbases. Being messy and stirring the pot is just the very essence of stan culture.