remming Posted August 11 Posted August 11 On 8/9/2024 at 11:11 PM, TizTiz said: I know she's stated "Take My Time" not being her most favorable track, or something to that effect, but I missed where she started she didn't like SEVERAL songs. Like- D@MN! With RCA putting their foot down on the money for the rollout, I can see her not promoting the album if she doesn't like more than an equal half of the finished product. That wouldn't help her case though, it would more so make her look even more foolish, delusional and unprofessional- not just that she had a strong case against these claims already though. I would hope nothing comes to light point to this being the reasons she flopped harder than any of her contemporaries in the grand scheme of an era, but I wouldn't be surprised. She acted as is she did the world a favor by paying for her own video during "Wild Side" era, only to do nothing but poorly planned performances. Stanning her is harder than honey pack d|ck❗️ She only said she disliked "Take my time" and wasn't crazy about "Little Secrets". For "All yours" all she said was she didn't like the Bridge and people are pretending like she hated the whole song. Saying a part of a song can be improved on is not a big deal. She mentioned how much she loved 1:59, Grip and Tantrums more than once. She mentioned loving Wild side and fighting for Distance to be on the album. Her fanbase constantly sets her up by talking about the negatives and not the positives but she has said more positives things about the album than negatives lol. It's also not her job to get her performances and get her seen. That's her management & label's jobs. Now for the social media part, that is her job but she clearly has some severe anxiety issues. I saw someone talking about a page or two back but I don't think she handles anything normally. That racist attack during fifth harmony days clearly had lasting effects and she would probably benefit from therapy long time. I know she was in therapy at one point because she did do a suicide preventation facebook live with the "American Foundation for Suicide Prevention" during Wild Side. Also it was weird to me that no fans questioned why she was doing that specifically out of all the "causes" she could be trying to bring awareness too. Everyone's mostly focused on the music I guess and not her as a person 7
justifymythreads Posted August 12 Posted August 12 3 hours ago, remming said: She only said she disliked "Take my time" and wasn't crazy about "Little Secrets". For "All yours" all she said was she didn't like the Bridge and people are pretending like she hated the whole song. Saying a part of a song can be improved on is not a big deal. She mentioned how much she loved 1:59, Grip and Tantrums more than once. She mentioned loving Wild side and fighting for Distance to be on the album. Her fanbase constantly sets her up by talking about the negatives and not the positives but she has said more positives things about the album than negatives lol. It's also not her job to get her performances and get her seen. That's her management & label's jobs. Now for the social media part, that is her job but she clearly has some severe anxiety issues. I saw someone talking about a page or two back but I don't think she handles anything normally. That racist attack during fifth harmony days clearly had lasting effects and she would probably benefit from therapy long time. I know she was in therapy at one point because she did do a suicide preventation facebook live with the "American Foundation for Suicide Prevention" during Wild Side. Also it was weird to me that no fans questioned why she was doing that specifically out of all the "causes" she could be trying to bring awareness too. Everyone's mostly focused on the music I guess and not her as a person I'm sorry but what does that have to do with performing? I personally don't understand that when she has performed numerous times literally a couple years later. I get having anxiety but at this point it can't just be that. If she really has that much anxiety than why not say it? So many other artists have similar issues and they talk to their fans about it. Like it's not excusing her not opening a line of communication. Her leg is clearly feeling better. No Tiktok's no videos no tweets nothing. Also can we also stop the she owes us nothing bs. I'm not saying that we are the reason for her existence but we definitely are a major reason why she even has a career. Do you know how many people came off of X factor and fell into obscurity? We held her down when she need us the most. We do that with nothing in return. I mean can we atleast get an explanation? To me she'd rather avoid us instead of being an actual artist who wants their fans to feel included. She signed bad record deal just say it nothing more will change if you ain't saying anything or releasing anyway. 2
remming Posted August 12 Posted August 12 6 minutes ago, justifymythreads said: I'm sorry but what does that have to do with performing? I personally don't understand that when she has performed numerous times literally a couple years later. I get having anxiety but at this point it can't just be that. If she really has that much anxiety than why not say it? So many other artists have similar issues and they talk to their fans about it. Like it's not excusing her not opening a line of communication. Her leg is clearly feeling better. No Tiktok's no videos no tweets nothing. Also can we also stop the she owes us nothing bs. I'm not saying that we are the reason for her existence but we definitely are a major reason why she even has a career. Do you know how many people came off of X factor and fell into obscurity? We held her down when she need us the most. We do that with nothing in return. I mean can we atleast get an explanation? To me she'd rather avoid us instead of being an actual artist who wants their fans to feel included. She signed bad record deal just say it nothing more will change if you ain't saying anything or releasing anyway. First off, I didn't mention performing. I mentioned performances which are booked by her management and the label. She can't just go and perform somewhere without being booked. That's how it works. Also why are you quoting me talking about stuff I never mentioned? I never said she doesn't owe fans nothing. I mentioned her mental health because people were talking about it a few pages back and explaining why that you're never going to get tiktoks and tweets because she is never going to be on social media in that way ever again. I think she should also be transparent and say what exactly is going on but she probably won't. I feel like a few of you in here feel personally hurt and I think that's fine because we waited so long for the album but the constant ranting about the same things over and over isn't going to change things either 4
justifymythreads Posted August 12 Posted August 12 16 minutes ago, remming said: First off, I didn't mention performing. I mentioned performances which are booked by her management and the label. She can't just go and perform somewhere without being booked. That's how it works. Also why are you quoting me talking about stuff I never mentioned? I never said she doesn't owe fans nothing. I mentioned her mental health because people were talking about it a few pages back and explaining why that you're never going to get tiktoks and tweets because she is never going to be on social media in that way ever again. I think she should also be transparent and say what exactly is going on but she probably won't. I feel like a few of you in here feel personally hurt and I think that's fine because we waited so long for the album but the constant ranting about the same things over and over isn't going to change things either I'm sorry I read wrong so I apologize. What I'm getting at is she has this weird crowd of fans that make everything into a pity party. My stance is that she doesn't have to perform but it's worrying to me that she just shuts everyone out. That's not healthy I think I wouldn't even really care if she didn't perform or promote or anything if she was a little bit more transparent. I was moreso reacting to that drama on twitter that could literally be avoided if her team actually cared about her reputation or image. I think the hate stems from Normani stan's being bored and picking with any and everybody. To me if her team was smart give them some content or maybe some interaction. That way those stans have something to focus their energy on rather than starting **** that ultimately falls back on Mani. Which I'm guessing causes her to whole herself up. Like in order to gain a happy fanbase give them something to talk about but she's rather post about nothing on her story. 2
Riaas Posted August 12 Posted August 12 5 hours ago, justifymythreads said: I'm sorry I read wrong so I apologize. What I'm getting at is she has this weird crowd of fans that make everything into a pity party. My stance is that she doesn't have to perform but it's worrying to me that she just shuts everyone out. That's not healthy I think I wouldn't even really care if she didn't perform or promote or anything if she was a little bit more transparent. I was moreso reacting to that drama on twitter that could literally be avoided if her team actually cared about her reputation or image. I think the hate stems from Normani stan's being bored and picking with any and everybody. To me if her team was smart give them some content or maybe some interaction. That way those stans have something to focus their energy on rather than starting **** that ultimately falls back on Mani. Which I'm guessing causes her to whole herself up. Like in order to gain a happy fanbase give them something to talk about but she's rather post about nothing on her story. The thing is she will never be transparent because in her head she needs to have this perfect image and her being vulnerable and admitting that she has severe anxiety and maybe some insecurities is torture to her. Which is not good because people think she's lazy or hate being a singer when she's probably daydreaming about where she could've been if she didn't sabotage herself. Like I said earlier it's all in her head I read a book years ago about different style of parenting and Normani fitted all the characteristics of a child with overprotective parents/mother (I invite you to read some studies about this). So unless she starts working on herself things will never change and her fans need to accept that or leave. Cause you'll be reminiscing and talking about her potential for years the same way Zayns fans are doing still. 1
Riaas Posted August 12 Posted August 12 6 hours ago, remming said: First off, I didn't mention performing. I mentioned performances which are booked by her management and the label. She can't just go and perform somewhere without being booked. That's how it works. Also why are you quoting me talking about stuff I never mentioned? I never said she doesn't owe fans nothing. I mentioned her mental health because people were talking about it a few pages back and explaining why that you're never going to get tiktoks and tweets because she is never going to be on social media in that way ever again. I think she should also be transparent and say what exactly is going on but she probably won't. I feel like a few of you in here feel personally hurt and I think that's fine because we waited so long for the album but the constant ranting about the same things over and over isn't going to change things either I agree with everything you said besides performances. She could ask Lydia to book small stages if she really wanted to since her album dropped in the summer and they are tons of festivals happening rn.
Givemeyourcoat Posted August 12 Posted August 12 9 hours ago, justifymythreads said: I'm sorry I read wrong so I apologize. What I'm getting at is she has this weird crowd of fans that make everything into a pity party. My stance is that she doesn't have to perform but it's worrying to me that she just shuts everyone out. That's not healthy I think I wouldn't even really care if she didn't perform or promote or anything if she was a little bit more transparent. I was moreso reacting to that drama on twitter that could literally be avoided if her team actually cared about her reputation or image. I think the hate stems from Normani stan's being bored and picking with any and everybody. To me if her team was smart give them some content or maybe some interaction. That way those stans have something to focus their energy on rather than starting **** that ultimately falls back on Mani. Which I'm guessing causes her to whole herself up. Like in order to gain a happy fanbase give them something to talk about but she's rather post about nothing on her story. She'd rather repost random **** on her TikTok
Givemeyourcoat Posted August 12 Posted August 12 Seeing the way she is hiding I'm asking myself if she isn't the one turning down festivals and random performances
AFullMoonlight Posted August 12 Posted August 12 Can only hope that the seven year contract rule is a thing and she'll leave top of the year in 2025. Tinashe was signed to RCA in 2012 and left in 2019, so prayer hands. I'm almost expecting that is the next major move from her. 1
Scorpioojay Posted August 12 Posted August 12 If she does leave RCA, I wonder how she'll navigate the industry. I know that when it comes to touring, she'll pocket a lot of money, but then again everything will also come out of her pocket. I just hope that whatever move she makes benefits her.
Mstreep Posted August 12 Posted August 12 11 hours ago, Givemeyourcoat said: Seeing the way she is hiding I'm asking myself if she isn't the one turning down festivals and random performances I think you guys don't have a realistic view of this girl's career. To think that she is getting offers to do festivals when her album did that bad with no recent hits or anything viral anywhere. No catalogue that would warrant a set at any festival. Unless she's performing fifth harmony songs and they only had 2 hits. And singing half of dancing with a stranger. But yet again the other elephant in the room is the girl is scared of performing live. I blame this all on her fans you have created unrealistic expectations on this girl
Givemeyourcoat Posted August 12 Posted August 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mstreep said: I think you guys don't have a realistic view of this girl's career. To think that she is getting offers to do festivals when her album did that bad with no recent hits or anything viral anywhere. No catalogue that would warrant a set at any festival. Unless she's performing fifth harmony songs and they only had 2 hits. And singing half of dancing with a stranger. But yet again the other elephant in the room is the girl is scared of performing live. I blame this all on her fans you have created unrealistic expectations on this girl I don't know about the first part of your comment, but about the second yeah I'm asking myself if that's not the case… Also she is the first one that created unrealistic expectations for her career. Again, she said she wanted to have the same type of career as MJ and Beyonce. We thought she was capable of reaching this goal cause she is a very good performer, had 2 successful collabs coming out of a successful band and created some buzz around her because of her biggest asset. Edited August 12 by Givemeyourcoat
remming Posted August 13 Posted August 13 5 hours ago, Mstreep said: I think you guys don't have a realistic view of this girl's career. To think that she is getting offers to do festivals when her album did that bad with no recent hits or anything viral anywhere. No catalogue that would warrant a set at any festival. Unless she's performing fifth harmony songs and they only had 2 hits. And singing half of dancing with a stranger. But yet again the other elephant in the room is the girl is scared of performing live. I blame this all on her fans you have created unrealistic expectations on this girl I hate to respond to someone who doesn't even like Normani but still posts here but you don't need hits to perform at festivals. Here's a list of several festivals happening this year. Go through the list and click the names and see how many haven't charted at all. https://www.thrillist.com/news/nation/music-festival-lineups-tickets-us-guide There are a bunch of festivals and even at the bigger ones there are plenty of no name people on the lineup. You just need your team to get you on there but to answer the other person's question, I don't think Normani was even thinking about performances down the line since it took her a week before the album was released to actually finish her album. 1
TizTiz Posted August 13 Posted August 13 On 8/11/2024 at 3:43 PM, remming said: She only said she disliked "Take my time" and wasn't crazy about "Little Secrets". For "All yours" all she said was she didn't like the Bridge and people are pretending like she hated the whole song. Saying a part of a song can be improved on is not a big deal. She mentioned how much she loved 1:59, Grip and Tantrums more than once. She mentioned loving Wild side and fighting for Distance to be on the album. Her fanbase constantly sets her up by talking about the negatives and not the positives but she has said more positives things about the album than negatives lol. It's also not her job to get her performances and get her seen. That's her management & label's jobs. Now for the social media part, that is her job but she clearly has some severe anxiety issues. I saw someone talking about a page or two back but I don't think she handles anything normally. That racist attack during fifth harmony days clearly had lasting effects and she would probably benefit from therapy long time. I know she was in therapy at one point because she did do a suicide preventation facebook live with the "American Foundation for Suicide Prevention" during Wild Side. Also it was weird to me that no fans questioned why she was doing that specifically out of all the "causes" she could be trying to bring awareness too. Everyone's mostly focused on the music I guess and not her as a person 'Poorly planned performances' as in the performance were not memorable, they've faded away in the time between each of them to the release of the next single and album. Those performances were not even in the same scale as the actual video. Not poorly planned because her and Brandon dragged their axxes to even schedule performances outside of wanting to be at the VMA's. This was a pretty clear statement. Im not sure where I, personally, stated that it was her occupation to book her own performances and appearance, because she's always been linked to high profile management teams. Them not booking anything, literally almost ever, is a money issue, circling back to RCA is not funding her pipe dreams anymore. The few things that they can book are not drawing in any engagement, any new listener or viewers and that means no money. It's just the same tired axx fans with a legal pad filled with new excuses of why she deserves to be treated as if she's above reproach. 1
remming Posted August 13 Posted August 13 6 minutes ago, TizTiz said: 'Poorly planned performances' as in the performance were not memorable, they've faded away in the time between each of them to the release of the next single and album. Those performances were not even in the same scale as the actual video. Not poorly planned because her and Brandon dragged their axxes to even schedule performances outside of wanting to be at the VMA's. This was a pretty clear statement. Im not sure where I, personally, stated that it was her occupation to book her own performances and appearance, because she's always been linked to high profile management teams. Them not booking anything, literally almost ever, is a money issue, circling back to RCA is not funding her pipe dreams anymore. The few things that they can book are not drawing in any engagement, any new listener or viewers and that means no money. It's just the same tired axx fans with a legal pad filled with new excuses of why she deserves to be treated as if she's above reproach. I mentioned performances because you spoke about her potentially not promoting the album and usually people do that through performances. I was saying her label and team book them because you seemed to be blaming ONLY her throughout your entire post and she can be doing a lot more but so can her label/team. And it's not 2010 anymore. Performances no longer have the big effects they once did. The fact that Normani even got the attention she did from those performances was a win. Her "poorly planned performances" got way more attention than a lot of people who performed at the same exact places No I don't think she should be treated above reproach at all. I just don't think it makes any sense for people to rant for weeks and weeks about the same things over and over again. We get it. Some of you are mad, hurt, broken-hearted, upset, etc, etc 1
The Prophecy Posted August 13 Posted August 13 At this point, there's no point in ranting. I doubt anything we say here or on Twitter will make a difference. However, her pattern of releasing music sporadically, suddenly disappearing, and avoiding promotion suggests she might be dealing with anxiety. She's likely aware that even minor mistakes will be heavily criticised, and given her high standards, she might be staying offline to avoid the backlash, despite the hard work she's put in. This could be similar to what Zayn went through, though I don't expect her to be forthcoming about it - and that's perfectly fine. She doesn't owe us an explanation. If that's the case, I don't think it's RCA holding her back or not booking her performances. We may never truly know.
TizTiz Posted August 13 Posted August 13 1 hour ago, remming said: I mentioned performances because you spoke about her potentially not promoting the album and usually people do that through performances. I was saying her label and team book them because you seemed to be blaming ONLY her throughout your entire post and she can be doing a lot more but so can her label/team. And it's not 2010 anymore. Performances no longer have the big effects they once did. The fact that Normani even got the attention she did from those performances was a win. Her "poorly planned performances" got way more attention than a lot of people who performed at the same exact places No I don't think she should be treated above reproach at all. I just don't think it makes any sense for people to rant for weeks and weeks about the same things over and over again. We get it. Some of you are mad, hurt, broken-hearted, upset, etc, etc We've blamed RCA, Brandon, Tunji, Keepcool, Elizabeth, Jerry, Sony, the Galaxy, God- all roads lead back to Mani! At this point, in this time, today, there is literally no one else at fault. Things do not move if funds are not dispersed and funds are not 100% on the label. There are plenty of artists who take matters into their own hands or alongside their label when they have a vision. After all this time, RCA is NOT in the wrong for not pouring more millions into her, because her returns are barely returning. Could they do more, sure- but why should they care if she doesn't. Live performances are still the main selling point & the main attention, financial returns and longevity. Maybe they're not a huge selling point for the artist you may like, but Normani's appeal has always been music videos+live performances. A live performance is something's could pay for herself, on whatever scale her budget would allow. This is not rocket science considering artist make the bulk of their money on the road performing. If ppl who have supported her for nearly a decade want to voice their opinion, so be it. There no time limit on how long ppl point out the oblivious, call it hurt, broken hearted or whatever, so is life. No one is asking anyone to agree, I personally don't give a d@mn if anyone agrees with my opinion. And babe, every single live performance of "Wild Side" was nearly a train wreck. It's not quality just because it's one of my favorites artists, they were all forgettable. Sis was performing on patios and crawling on the floor. 2
The Prophecy Posted August 13 Posted August 13 This feels like a repeat of the Zayn situation - she'll release music and perform when she's ready. I understand that fans want her to succeed, but if you've followed her since the 5H days, you know it's been a wild ride. After all the delays and setbacks, no one expected Dopamine to be a huge era for her. My main concern now is that if these issues were always present, she could have released the album after Wild Side and taken a break.
Givemeyourcoat Posted August 13 Posted August 13 8 hours ago, remming said: I mentioned performances because you spoke about her potentially not promoting the album and usually people do that through performances. I was saying her label and team book them because you seemed to be blaming ONLY her throughout your entire post and she can be doing a lot more but so can her label/team. And it's not 2010 anymore. Performances no longer have the big effects they once did. The fact that Normani even got the attention she did from those performances was a win. Her "poorly planned performances" got way more attention than a lot of people who performed at the same exact places No I don't think she should be treated above reproach at all. I just don't think it makes any sense for people to rant for weeks and weeks about the same things over and over again. We get it. Some of you are mad, hurt, broken-hearted, upset, etc, etc Again yes and ? If you don't like me ranting over and over again you can just ignore the forum.
Givemeyourcoat Posted August 13 Posted August 13 5 hours ago, Sad Beautiful Tragic said: This feels like a repeat of the Zayn situation - she'll release music and perform when she's ready. I understand that fans want her to succeed, but if you've followed her since the 5H days, you know it's been a wild ride. After all the delays and setbacks, no one expected Dopamine to be a huge era for her. My main concern now is that if these issues were always present, she could have released the album after Wild Side and taken a break. Thing is Zayn « « can » » get away from not performing since he never branded himself as a performer but as a vocalist and a writer. He was never a good performer to begin with, he is boring to watch on stage even more if you compare him to Harry or Liam. I love Zayn but we have to be honest. And even the fact that he didn't perform for many years affected his career. Now imagine a performer, a « visual artist » not performing for nearly 3 years, it's suicidal. It doesn't make sense but again that her brand, all over the place. 1
Givemeyourcoat Posted August 13 Posted August 13 (edited) 8 hours ago, TizTiz said: We've blamed RCA, Brandon, Tunji, Keepcool, Elizabeth, Jerry, Sony, the Galaxy, God- all roads lead back to Mani! At this point, in this time, today, there is literally no one else at fault. Things do not move if funds are not dispersed and funds are not 100% on the label. There are plenty of artists who take matters into their own hands or alongside their label when they have a vision. After all this time, RCA is NOT in the wrong for not pouring more millions into her, because her returns are barely returning. Could they do more, sure- but why should they care if she doesn't. Live performances are still the main selling point & the main attention, financial returns and longevity. Maybe they're not a huge selling point for the artist you may like, but Normani's appeal has always been music videos+live performances. A live performance is something's could pay for herself, on whatever scale her budget would allow. This is not rocket science considering artist make the bulk of their money on the road performing. If ppl who have supported her for nearly a decade want to voice their opinion, so be it. There no time limit on how long ppl point out the oblivious, call it hurt, broken hearted or whatever, so is life. No one is asking anyone to agree, I personally don't give a d@mn if anyone agrees with my opinion. And babe, every single live performance of "Wild Side" was nearly a train wreck. It's not quality just because it's one of my favorites artists, they were all forgettable. Sis was performing on patios and crawling on the floor. Also I don't understand her team… you know your artist has anxiety. Why don't you book small stages first, like intimate fans performances so she get used to performing again and feels her fans love. Then concentrate on big stages… but they are here focusing on big stages only like bet and Vmas of course it will scare her away. I thought the same thing in 2021 before WS came out because the last time she performed people dragged her and I know it really affected her. I still think the same in 2024. Normani and her team thought way too big and they should've thought more realistic. She hired Brandon for a Grammy compaign and Lydia the pop star statue. Thinking about a Grammy putted way more pressure on her shoulders which isn't good at all. It must be the why reason she was still in the studio to record and was still putting in and out songs on the track list the week of the release. Normani and her team should've concentrate on smaller and most important things like building a healthy relationship with her fanbase, have a strong presence online and secure a hit, and TOUR. It's like, you can't pass level 1 but you already wanna pass level 7. Conclusion nothing works out. Edited August 13 by Givemeyourcoat
TizTiz Posted August 13 Posted August 13 6 minutes ago, Givemeyourcoat said: Also I don't understand her team… you know your artist has anxiety. Why don't you book small stages first, like intimate fans performances so she get used to performing again and feels her fans love. Then concentrate on big stages… but they are here focusing on big stages only like bet and Vmas of course it will scare her away. I thought the same thing in 2021 before WS came out because the last time she performed people dragged her and I know it really affected her. I still think the same in 2024. Normani and her team thought way too big and they should've thought more realistic. She hired Brandon for a Grammy compaign when she shouldn't and Lydia the pop star statue. Thinking about a Grammy putted way more pressure on her shoulders which isn't good at all. It must be the why reason she was still in the studio to record and was still putting in and out songs on the track list the week of the release. Normani and her team should've concentrate on smaller and most important things like building a healthy relationship with her fanbase, have a strong presence online and secure a hit, and TOUR. It's like, you can't pass level 1 but you already wanna pass level 7. Conclusion nothing works out. But her anxiety isn't necessarily attached to performing. Her overthinking and driving her self insane is what she struggles with during live performances and they've, sometimes, worked in her favor. Her ambition to be on a large stage isn't a bad thing, but you can't expect to book these stages when there's a disconnect between your fans+label+team because you always have an opposition. This anxiety for social media stunt is self inflicted at this point, because she doesn't have to post on her social platforms when she has a team, with years of experience, that can post for her. Her sitting up and reading unfavorable comments years ago has nothing to do with promoting your debut album now. It's like why is this small issues, that can be fixed by handing this job over to someone else, affecting your career in a negative way so significantly. 2
Garbaj Posted August 13 Posted August 13 guys. its no point in worrying about someone thats showing they don't care. I get countless views on anxiety and her thinking she has to be perfect. but don't you think that someone that actually wants to be successful would at least POST about their album?? we know that videos have been filmed... she gave us a whole trailer that included clips of music videos for the pre-released songs! you think gunna just SHOWED up for a 30 sec album trailer?? hell no. we haven't received visuals or communication because normani thinks she has to put out perfection EVERY SINGLE TIME. "DOPAMINE" is a incredible r&b/pop album... and could have done wonders if she actually took the time and thought EVERYTHING out ! this girl finished her DEBUT album the week BEFORE release; like she didn't have almost 6 years to make sure everything was ready. I understand trusting your mind and making sure you resonate with your material.... but after a while all the excuses get tiring and boring. she has "anxiety" but in almost all of her interviews released this year... shes states the thing she wants the MOST is to be on tour. how can an artist with "anxiety" want that soooo much? lets be real as NORMANI stans and realize everything isn't on RCA, or MANAGEMENT... its simply NORMANI. you guys can say i'm not a real normani stan.. but thats not it. I just don't like it when people in this forum try to bring down others for actually stating FACTS that you don't want to believe. x 2
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