fan base Kesha

[bearman]

1 hour ago, TomTom said:

Well, it's certainly not going to come if this is accepted as a self-fulfilling prophecy. I really don't believe for a second that there's no demand for a couple of shows in London, Berlin, Paris, etc. at least.

Let's hope she's coming next year 

[gettsleazy]

I think it’s totally fair to argue that High Road killed the post-Rainbow momentum. Whether that was her team, her wishes, her vision, etc. is all speculative as Tom said, but regardless, the choices made were not GP-friendly, and not fan friendly either considering we got 6-8 recycled tracks.

 

In this regard, her versatility is her Achilles heel. She can do SO much, but that leaves infinite directions she can take. We talk about the folk album like a ghost of Christmas past, but it is retrospectively interesting to think about where her career would be if she released that style of record and then followed it up with Gag Order. She received comparisons to Fiona Apple and Björk with GO (which sometimes makes me laugh because of how unreal it seems) but it’s clear that she could have fully embraced the anti-pop route and succeeded amongst acclaim-oriented outlets.

 

The shadow of her massive success as a pop megastar sadly informs most of her post-Rainbow career as well. High Road pandered to the gays and it became a joke. She then releases the album of a lifetime, thematically similar to Rainbow, and it makes no noise. Like Collin said, it would be awesome to see her fully embrace the alternative route. If she keeps trying it with pop, it will only limit her audience more unless she’s able to recreate *her* version of A/C.

[CroNich]

45 minutes ago, gettsleazy said:

I think it’s totally fair to argue that High Road killed the post-Rainbow momentum. Whether that was her team, her wishes, her vision, etc. is all speculative as Tom said, but regardless, the choices made were not GP-friendly, and not fan friendly either considering we got 6-8 recycled tracks.

 

In this regard, her versatility is her Achilles heel. She can do SO much, but that leaves infinite directions she can take. We talk about the folk album like a ghost of Christmas past, but it is retrospectively interesting to think about where her career would be if she released that style of record and then followed it up with Gag Order. She received comparisons to Fiona Apple and Björk with GO (which sometimes makes me laugh because of how unreal it seems) but it’s clear that she could have fully embraced the anti-pop route and succeeded amongst acclaim-oriented outlets.

 

The shadow of her massive success as a pop megastar sadly informs most of her post-Rainbow career as well. High Road pandered to the gays and it became a joke. She then releases the album of a lifetime, thematically similar to Rainbow, and it makes no noise. Like Collin said, it would be awesome to see her fully embrace the alternative route. If she keeps trying it with pop, it will only limit her audience more unless she’s able to recreate *her* version of A/C.

I completely agree. If she had released the folk album after Rainbow and then followed it up with GO I feel like her career would be in a completely different place. Obviously she woudn't really be considered a pop girl anymore but by trying to go back to pop after Rainbow, as you've said, killed any momentum she was getting from the Hot AC audience and didn't do her any favours with her older fans because the music sounded dated and recycled, and the vision was really messy. 

 

I wish High Road leaned more into the alt-pop route. She kind of experimented a little bit with My Own Dance (not a fan of the song but its a direction I would've liked to see her explore more), but instead the collection of songs we got was such a confusing, messy and (I hate to say it but) unexciting compilation of songs that thematically and sonically don't really fit together at all. I'm not really sure what went on to cause this, it may have just been that with everything going on her vision was skewed or confused and she probably surrounds herself with a lot of yes men these days who didn't really check it.

 

She's definitely in an interesting position post GO; if she sticks with this post-pop, alternative sound there's a chance that over time she could build up a solid new fanbase and manage some success, but there's also a chance with each release she could fade more and more into obscurity. To go back to pop would be a risk too - obviously whatever she tried to do on High Road didn't click and derailed a lot of her momentum, but I wonder if she created a pop album that was a little bit more concise thematically and sonically, sounded a bit more current or innovative and was just of a better quality, would she have a chance to pull back in some of her long-time casual listeners? Surely. Now would that equate to a commercial success? I doubt it, but if she can pull it off she may be able to get even just a little viral moment ala Praying or Kylie's Padam Padam, which could be just what she needs to get her career back on track. 

 

Alternatively I could see her leaning back into her punk-pop sound for the next album, given that Olivia Rodrigo has shown there is a market for that and that's definitely a direction Kesha has wanted to explore more. Whatever the case, whatever the direction for the next album I just hope she serves another Gag Order in terms of quality and consistency, regardless of the genre and how it performs commercially. Animal, Rainbow and GO are such excellent bodies of work that really do well at this, whereas Warrior and High Road more just sound like a random compilation of pop songs with some bops thrown in. Lets hope she sticks to the former.

[Vixen Eyes]

i would die if she did a tour like this

Kesha: Leaks, Covers & Greatest Hits

           ACT I : Greatest Hits
01.    Blow
02.    Die Young
03.    Woman
04.    Your Love is My Drug

           ACT II: Covers (different selection every night)
05.    Nightclubbing (Iggy Pop)
06.    Jolene (Dolly Parton)
07.    It Ain't Me Babe (Bob Dylan)
08.    You Don't Own Me (Lesley Gore)

           Act III: Leaks (different selection every night)
09.    Child of the Moon
10.    Chain Reaction
11.    True Love
12.    Dancing with the Devil

           ACT IV: Greatest Hits Pt 2
13.    Praying
14.    Little Bit of Love
15.    Eat the Acid / Fine Line
16.    TiK ToK

           ACT V: Encore
17.    Only Love Can Save Us Now
18.    Bad Reputation (Joan Jett)
19.    Slide
20.    We R Who We R

 

[TomTom]

Tour is officially over 

[Vixen Eyes]

Already? 💀

Well. Still, I'm ready for the next era if she isn't doing any more singles

[Alaska.]

 

Now let's get a lil quick radio hit on a feature before the next era

 

[TomTom]

Gag Order lands at #24 on Rolling Stone‘s Top 100 Albums of 2023 

 

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24

Kesha, ‘Gag Order’

On her fifth LP, Kesha is tired, angry, and vicious. She unspools her feelings as she can across 13 scorched-Earth tracks that present an artist pulling herself back up from the brink of madness. Working with producer Rick Rubin, she has found a psychedelic middle ground between the sleazy synths of her 2012 breakthrough, Warrior, and the rootsy Southern rock of 2017’s Rainbow and 2020’s High Road. She may never find the rainbow she once sang about, but that doesn’t mean she isn’t radically advocating for her own happy ending. The album even ends with “Happy,” a weary but lovely ballad dedicated to life not turning out the way you hope. As she sings on that song, she’s gotta laugh so she doesn’t die. Even that is its own kind of victory. —B.S.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/best-albums-2023-1234879538/kesha-gag-order-1234880454/

Edited November 30, 2023 by TomTom

[gettsleazy]

Pack it up! On to the next era. 

 

[SmittenCake]

Tour is over. It's a damn shame she, for some reason, won't tour Europe and Asia. 

[bearman]

2 hours ago, gettsleazy said:

Pack it up! On to the next era. 

 

In 2033

[gettsleazy]

5 minutes ago, bearman said:

In 2033

Her Future Nostalgia is coming

 

[bearman]

1 minute ago, gettsleazy said:

Her Future Nostalgia is coming

 

Let’s hope she skips Future Nostalgia and head straight to the Kevin Parker produced album 

 

[gettsleazy]

4 minutes ago, bearman said:

Let’s hope she skips Future Nostalgia and head straight to the Kevin Parker produced album 

 

Why would we want Rainbow v2 when we can get her Desire... I Want to Turn Into You?

 

 

[bearman]

Just now, gettsleazy said:

Why would we want Rainbow v2 when we can get her Desire... I Want to Turn Into You?

 

 

A Dany L Harle produced album … a dream. 

 

 

[gettsleazy]

27 minutes ago, bearman said:

A Dany L Harle produced album … a dream. 

 

 

...and likely will remain a dream given the NIGHTMARE we find ourselves in every day.

 

[bearman]

4 minutes ago, gettsleazy said:

...and likely will remain a dream given the NIGHTMARE we find ourselves in every day.

 

She managed to snatch Rick Rubin so it seems like her witchcraft is working. Alternatively, she can be locked with Pebe and Hudson Mohawke in a room for 2 months and make us an album.

 

Edited November 30, 2023 by bearman

[Vixen Eyes]

2 hours ago, gettsleazy said:

Why would we want Rainbow v2 when we can get her Desire... I Want to Turn Into You?

 

 

I want her to release an album like this one

 

[TomTom]

What is happening? 

 

[Vixen Eyes]

WE DONT KNOW WHAT DO YOU MEAN??????

[TomTom]

#16 on Times' 20 Best Albums of 2023:

 

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16. Kesha

Gag Order
Her legal wrangles with Dr Luke have long been the chief talking point about Kesha’s career. This inventive alt-pop proposed another narrative.

https://archive.is/20231203013030/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/best-albums-2023-critics-choice-new-music-wnf8d0p60

[bearman]

I'm trying to add her accolades to her Wikipedia page but editing is blocked in France. 

 

[TomTom]

24 minutes ago, bearman said:

I'm trying to add her accolades to her Wikipedia page but editing is blocked in France. 

 

Mess 

[Alaska.]

3 hours ago, TomTom said:

#16 on Times' 20 Best Albums of 2023:

 

https://archive.is/20231203013030/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/best-albums-2023-critics-choice-new-music-wnf8d0p60

A better list than RS  Is there a thread for this list?

[TomTom]

3 hours ago, Alaska. said:

A better list than RS  Is there a thread for this list?

I don't think so!