TomTom Posted May 4, 2023 Author Posted May 4, 2023 (edited) On 2/8/2023 at 8:37 PM, TomTom2288 said: UPDATE: dates have just changed! @Vixen Eyes https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=lvzC7oAuESbhBi2lQIiYrQ== UPDATE: Kesha and Luke have filed their (14 page-long) status letter ahead of the third pre-trial conference in 3 weeks. First, both sides have a very long list of topics they want to discuss at said conference (on top of the two outstanding motions in limine by Dr. Luke). Most interesting is perhaps "press during trial" . Additionally, both sides are requesting a deadline to exchange final witness and exhibit lists before trial and other things. Spoiler Second, both sides discuss the impact the forthcoming decision by New York's highest court will have on the trial which gives us a glimpse at Dr. Luke's litigation strategy in the event Kesha wins her appeals at New York's highest court. Like I already anticipated, in the event Kesha is permitted to assert her anti-SLAPP counterclaim, Dr. Luke wants to renew his motion (1) to bifurcate the trial and (2) quash any of Kesha's discovery requests related to her counterclaim. Some will remember that Dr. Luke filed a motion to bifurcate the trial shortly after Kesha was allowed to assert her anti-SLAPP counterclaim back in 2021 so that Dr. Luke's defamation claims would be tried first and Kesha's counterclaim an unknown period of time later (and only in case he lost his claims). In the same vein, Kesha tried to her use her then-new counterclaim as a means to take discovery into Dr. Luke's PR strategy to brand her as a liar which had already been denied back in 2017 on the grounds that Kesha had no active claims against Luke at that time. If Kesha wins her appeals at New York's highest court, these issues would be back on the table, and the interesting part is the timing. Dr. Luke maintains that motions with respect these issues may lead to yet another adjournment of the jury trial, while Kesha insists there can be no more adjournments of the jury trial no matter what and that the court must promptly decide the above issues either at the third pre-trial conference this month or shortly after. Spoiler Third, it has been revealed that Kesha is trying to take discovery into Dr. Luke's post-2018 income and finances. This information has not been available to her yet because discovery closed in 2018, but it seems like she wants this to be a part of the trial. Spoiler Fourth, there is a pages-long argument as to whether Kesha should be allowed to use the deposition transcripts from David Sonenberg and Georgina McAvenna from the DAS case at trial in case they will not testify as trial witnesses. This likely won't be an issue given that both most likely will testify at trial, but the interesting part is that Kesha writes in a footnote that she has served an official trial subpoena on David Sonenberg this week. Spoiler https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=2QGWBrHHNodixbL7AqtJsg== Edited May 4, 2023 by TomTom2288
cyclone Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 20 hours ago, TomTom2288 said: UPDATE: Kesha and Luke have filed their (14 page-long) status letter ahead of the third pre-trial conference in 3 weeks. First, both sides have a very long list of topics they want to discuss at said conference (on top of the two outstanding motions in limine by Dr. Luke). Most interesting is perhaps "press during trial" . Additionally, both sides are requesting a deadline to exchange final witness and exhibit lists before trial and other things. Hide contents Second, both sides discuss the impact the forthcoming decision by New York's highest court will have on the trial which gives us a glimpse at Dr. Luke's litigation strategy in the event Kesha wins her appeals at New York's highest court. Like I already anticipated, in the event Kesha is permitted to assert her anti-SLAPP counterclaim, Dr. Luke wants to renew his motion (1) to bifurcate the trial and (2) quash any of Kesha's discovery requests related to her counterclaim. Some will remember that Dr. Luke filed a motion to bifurcate the trial shortly after Kesha was allowed to assert her anti-SLAPP counterclaim back in 2021 so that Dr. Luke's defamation claims would be tried first and Kesha's counterclaim an unknown period of time later (and only in case he lost his claims). In the same vein, Kesha tried to her use her then-new counterclaim as a means to take discovery into Dr. Luke's PR strategy to brand her as a liar which had already been denied back in 2017 on the grounds that Kesha had no active claims against Luke at that time. If Kesha wins her appeals at New York's highest court, these issues would be back on the table, and the interesting part is the timing. Dr. Luke maintains that motions with respect these issues may lead to yet another adjournment of the jury trial, while Kesha insists there can be no more adjournments of the jury trial no matter what and that the court must promptly decide the above issues either at the third pre-trial conference this month or shortly after. Reveal hidden contents Third, it has been revealed that Kesha is trying to take discovery into Dr. Luke's post-2018 income and finances. This information has not been available to her yet because discovery closed in 2018, but it seems like she wants this to be a part of the trial. Reveal hidden contents Fourth, there is a pages-long argument as to whether Kesha should be allowed to use the deposition transcripts from David Sonenberg and Georgina McAvenna from the DAS case at trial in case they will not testify as trial witnesses. This likely won't be an issue given that both most likely will testify at trial, but the interesting part is that Kesha writes in a footnote that she has served an official trial subpoena on David Sonenberg this week. Reveal hidden contents https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=2QGWBrHHNodixbL7AqtJsg== Thank you for continuing to provide your amazing breakdowns, you are doing a great job making the information accessible
Crazy kid Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 Did we all know that SOTHOMC was actually supposed to be on Cannibal as a bonus track, but was scrapped last minute. This information has been out since 2016 but i am only now finding out about it 7 years later
Crazy kid Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 Also is it common knowledge that she only likes 8/16 tracks on Warrior? I assumed that it was close to this ratio and which songs she disliked, but it is interesting having this information
Vixen Eyes Posted May 8, 2023 Posted May 8, 2023 On 5/6/2023 at 11:58 AM, Crazy kid said: Also is it common knowledge that she only likes 8/16 tracks on Warrior? I assumed that it was close to this ratio and which songs she disliked, but it is interesting having this information on K:MCBL she and Pebe were on a hike and were talking about the songs on Warrior and Kesha listed her favourites i cant remember which ones she listed aside from Supernatural, i assume thats where people get that ratio from we know she hated how Die Young turned out cos iirc the chorus was not written by her as Luke had someone else re-write it and forced her to sing that version. and i personally would assume she doesnt really like Crazy Kids or Thinking of You for some reason idk
Crazy kid Posted May 9, 2023 Posted May 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Vixen Eyes said: on K:MCBL she and Pebe were on a hike and were talking about the songs on Warrior and Kesha listed her favourites i cant remember which ones she listed aside from Supernatural, i assume thats where people get that ratio from we know she hated how Die Young turned out cos iirc the chorus was not written by her as Luke had someone else re-write it and forced her to sing that version. and i personally would assume she doesnt really like Crazy Kids or Thinking of You for some reason idk Nah theres some tweets from 2022 from someone (i assume someone in kesha’s circle) which went through all the tracks and detailed which ones she liked. Seemed pretty legit. She hates Die Young and Crazy Kids specifically. https://twitter.com/AxelZalem/status/1492730502368972810
TomTom Posted May 9, 2023 Author Posted May 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Crazy kid said: Nah theres some tweets from 2022 from someone (i assume someone in kesha’s circle) which went through all the tracks and detailed which ones she liked. Seemed pretty legit. She hates Die Young and Crazy Kids specifically. https://twitter.com/AxelZalem/status/1492730502368972810 This account is not credible, pretty sure they posted information too which was outright false .
Crazy kid Posted May 9, 2023 Posted May 9, 2023 1 minute ago, TomTom2288 said: This account is not credible, pretty sure they posted information too which was outright false . Oh tea
cyclone Posted May 9, 2023 Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) Watching old Kesha interviews made me want to cry, she's really going through all this trauma at the hands of one of the most powerful names in music since she was a teenager and this situation has changed her so much to the point where she has to carefully watch every word that she says now whereas she was so free and quick to speak.. i'm so sick at how he had the power to take everything from her and how barely anyone stood up with her against Dr. Luke. I barely learned Luke stopped payments for all the writers of Timber until Pebe agreed to be removed as a cowriter.. kesha and her family rlly needs to be commended for what she's endured its so sad and a tragedy Edited May 9, 2023 by cyclone
Vixen Eyes Posted May 9, 2023 Posted May 9, 2023 22 hours ago, TomTom2288 said: This account is not credible, pretty sure they posted information too which was outright false . theyre the same account that tweeted that Kesha has continuously been wanting to release Machine Gun Love since 2012 but has been waiting for the right time to do so cos of the political climate right now around guns
Alaska. Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 On 5/9/2023 at 1:41 AM, Crazy kid said: Nah theres some tweets from 2022 from someone (i assume someone in kesha’s circle) which went through all the tracks and detailed which ones she liked. Seemed pretty legit. She hates Die Young and Crazy Kids specifically. https://twitter.com/AxelZalem/status/1492730502368972810 If this is somehow true, I'm glad she enjoys suck my ***** Zac Efron Wherever You Are deserves some appreciation as well
cyclone Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 Not to overspeculate but did it seem to anyone else something was not right w her during this interview? Or it couldve been nerves / she was really tired..
Better Mistakes Posted May 19, 2023 Posted May 19, 2023 happy release day to my favourite rats animals! #BoogieOrder 1
gettsleazy Posted May 19, 2023 Posted May 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Better Mistakes said: happy release day to my favourite rats animals! #BoogieOrder Not #BoogieOrder lalskjdklads We've come so far 1
Vixen Eyes Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 idk what it is but Paper Airplane is hitting extra hard tonight
Vixen Eyes Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/05/29/why-the-new-kesha-doesnt-miss-the-old-kesha?fbclid=IwAR09sr4DLjHEh4oxZIYtRkgUWUGIVxcjWv75KDb3T-9v6qTu8CzVDrsrKwc 1
Recycled stardust Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Vixen Eyes said: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/05/29/why-the-new-kesha-doesnt-miss-the-old-kesha?fbclid=IwAR09sr4DLjHEh4oxZIYtRkgUWUGIVxcjWv75KDb3T-9v6qTu8CzVDrsrKwc Quote “I’m so used to people saying they miss the old Kesha,” she said. “If artists do the same thing, we’re unhappy. If they change too much, we’re unhappy.” I want to hug her Finally we have reactions here 1
Sweetestsecret Posted May 21, 2023 Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) On 5/9/2023 at 12:59 AM, Vixen Eyes said: The chorus was not written by her as Luke had someone else re-write it and forced her to sing that version. Nate Ruess is not just 'someone else'.. he was the lead singer of the famous band Fun.he co-wrote die young, the chorus part, we can hear him singing in the chorus (he is in the backing vocals).many artists in the music industry hate their own music..for example Katy Perry hates 'dark horse' and she was forced to release it as a single after the huge success of the song despite that it wasn't an official single yet. Selena Gomez regretted singing 'come & get it'..Avril Lavigne hates 'girlfriend'.. Edited May 21, 2023 by Sweetestsecret
Vixen Eyes Posted May 21, 2023 Posted May 21, 2023 15 hours ago, Sweetestsecret said: Nate Ruess is not just 'someone else'.. he was the lead singer of the famous band Fun.he co-wrote die young, the chorus part, we can hear him singing in the chorus (he is in the backing vocals).many artists in the music industry hate their own music..for example Katy Perry hates 'dark horse' and she was forced to release it as a single after the huge success of the song despite that it wasn't an official single yet. Selena Gomez regretted singing 'come & get it'..Avril Lavigne hates 'girlfriend'.. gurl what
Keshasbxtch Posted May 22, 2023 Posted May 22, 2023 When do we find out if Kesha wins her appeals? Also I was briefly reading a post above mentioning Kesha subpoenaed David Sonenberg.. would he substantially help her casefor the better?
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