charts discussion 30 predicted to fall below ‘RedTV’ for the first time

[naval23]

45 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said:

Unfortunately that's not the case about 30 and Folklore(and looks like it won't happen with 30's current trajectory) but i can't say anything about rest, it's people's own preference if they choose peaks or longevity, afterall. 

The #1 IFPI global album of 2021 says otherwise but do you sweet cheeks 

[Cloröx]

7 hours ago, BrokenMachine said:

Why a Brits performance at the UK would help her to chart higher in a US chart ?

 

Also what you mention is the minumum an artist can do for their music, and all of that is work done by her team. Adele by herself hasn't done anything for the album... she just cancelled a Vegas residency and went to parties 

8 hours ago, kitasss_vlc said:

those people saying "she did promo performing at The Brits" when we are talking about the US chart... are they trolling or their brain doesnt reach any further? I mean...

 

And we can keep talking about it, but... having only 12 songs and half of them being +5min long (including few +7min...)... She could have gone streaming thirsty adding a bunch of 15-20 3min long songs and well, she didnt...

 

She did upload her Brits live performance and it did wonder before for SLY too bad it didn't work this time 

Radio payola and Spotify playlists are not bare minimum, they are basically the most effective way to promote your music 

 

"All of that is work done by her team. Adele by herself hasn't done anything for the album"..... is this really an excuse because the objective remain the same, to promote the album 

 

[Reflektor_Creep]

In US lol, a small victory for local stans

[BrokenMachine]

1 hour ago, Cloröx said:

Radio payola and Spotify playlists are not bare minimum

They are the bare minumum. If you want your album to have longevity you have to do better than that. Is she out there giving interviews? No. Is she doing magazine covers? No. Is she doing a special challenge for her songs? No. Is she performing her new songs to big audiences? No.

 

SLY performance did wonders for her, but she needs to step up her own game if she wants to have the same kind of success she had 10 years ago, but she isn't doing that, she is just doing the bare minimun

[Jude]

That's not a good look for Adele. Hopefully she can rebound.

[Cloröx]

11 minutes ago, BrokenMachine said:

They are the bare minumum. If you want your album to have longevity you have to do better than that. Is she out there giving interviews? No. Is she doing magazine covers? No. Is she doing a special challenge for her songs? No. Is she performing her new songs to big audiences? No.

 

SLY performance did wonders for her, but she needs to step up her own game if she wants to have the same kind of success she had 10 years ago, but she isn't doing that, she is just doing the bare minimun

Bare minimum yet way way more effective than interviews and magazine cover especially during streaming era 

[BrokenMachine]

1 hour ago, Cloröx said:

Bare minimum yet way way more effective than interviews and magazine cover especially during streaming era 

Yet the album is falling on the charts so it's not as effective as you're trying to make it seem 

[Cloröx]

13 minutes ago, BrokenMachine said:

Yet the album is falling on the charts so it's not as effective as you're trying to make it seem 

Tell me what kind of promo that more effective than radio payola and playlisting? Do you actually believe interviews and magazine cover give bigger boost  and more relevant than radio payola/playlisting? That being said now, not all promo will 100% guarantee a successful and we are witnessing it right now with 30 

[BrokenMachine]

13 minutes ago, Cloröx said:

Tell me what kind of promo that more effective than radio payola and playlisting? Do you actually believe interviews and magazine cover give bigger boost  and more relevant than radio payola/playlisting? That being said now, not all promo will 100% guarantee a successful and we are witnessing it right now with 30 

The lies. 30 is a successful album, it has already sold 2.1M in the US and was the #1 selling album in the world last year 

 

What I'm saying is if they actually want to give it a boost they should go harder on the promo they're doing. Your 'radio payola' comment made me think Oh My God was at the top of the radio charts, but I just checked and it's nowhere to be seen, I guess you were lying with that one too 

 

As for the playlisting I want you to bring the playlist reach/strams ratio since you seem to be really confident in that one and I want you to back it up, but I have the feeling you might be trolling with that statement too 

[Cloröx]

1 hour ago, BrokenMachine said:

The lies. 30 is a successful album, it has already sold 2.1M in the US and was the #1 selling album in the world last year 

 

What I'm saying is if they actually want to give it a boost they should go harder on the promo they're doing. Your 'radio payola' comment made me think Oh My God was at the top of the radio charts, but I just checked and it's nowhere to be seen, I guess you were lying with that one too 

 

As for the playlisting I want you to bring the playlist reach/strams ratio since you seem to be really confident in that one and I want you to back it up, but I have the feeling you might be trolling with that statement too 

lol you did say the album is falling on the charts right now 

EOM has spent 86 days at #1 and still in the Top 10 

 

Both EOM and OMG are on TTH right now 

[kitasss_vlc]

people thinking radio is playing Adele only due to payola... yes, yes, sure

[BrokenMachine]

44 minutes ago, Cloröx said:

lol you did say the album is falling on the charts right now 

EOM has spent 86 days at #1 and still in the Top 10 

 

Both EOM and OMG are on TTH right now 

The fact that is falling on the charts doesn't take away the fact that it's a successful album that already sold millions 

 

The only thing lacking is longevity, but it's a successful album regardless 

 

EOM already did its job by selling the album during the first weeks, if they want longevity they need to push another single already, but it's not gonna work if OMG is not even top 30 at TTH and it isn't getting spins on radio despite of your claimed 'payola' 

Edited March 18, 2022 by BrokenMachine

[Cloröx]

1 minute ago, BrokenMachine said:

The fact that is falling on the charts doesn't take away the fact that it's a successful album that already sold millions 

 

The only thing lacking is longevity, but it's a successful album regardless 

 

EOM already did its job by selling the album during the first weeks, if they want longevity they need to push another single already, but it's not gonna work if OMG is not even top 30 at TTH and it isn't getting spins despite of your claimed 'payola' 

That's the whole point of this thread, we are discussing about its longevity 

 

EOM is still doing its job but it's not enough to sustain the longevity of the album since people not really interested on the rest songs. OMG didn't work, she did perform IDW yet it didn't blow up like her usual live performance 

 

Some artists don't even have song on BBH100, less playlisting, no radio hits yet still doing amazing on BB200 despite the circumstances. 

[Steve Johnson]

5 hours ago, Cloröx said:

Some artists don't even have song on BBH100, less playlisting, no radio hits yet still doing amazing on BB200 despite the circumstances. 

[Steve Johnson]

HDD final update today. Imagine Adele above Tay on todays update. Backfire !

[Assassin]

The backfire!

 

[Brando]

On 3/18/2022 at 10:28 PM, Assassin said:

The backfire!

 

i love how you cut off the numbers (that are exactly the same)

[FAN]

9 hours ago, Steve Johnson said:

HDD final update today. Imagine Adele above Tay on todays update. Backfire !

And yet they’re both tanking and Olivia is evening outselling them in pure now  

[Steve Johnson]

2 hours ago, FAN said:

And yet they’re both tanking and Olivia is evening outselling them in pure now  

Let's see if Olivia will pull this number in her 11th (9 album + 2 re-rec) project. Or if she will outsell 21. 

 

[FAN]

45 minutes ago, Steve Johnson said:

Let's see if Olivia will pull this number in her 11th (9 album + 2 re-rec) project. Or if she will outsell 21. 

 

Sure Steve, because that’s what we’re talking about!

[Taylor fanboy]

On 3/19/2022 at 6:28 AM, Assassin said:

The backfire!

 

 

This mini feud is tired! Both are mega successful.

[enchanted0]

On 3/19/2022 at 8:15 AM, FAN said:

And yet they’re both tanking and Olivia is evening outselling them in pure now  

RED TV already exceeded all expectations already wtf are you talking about

Edited March 20, 2022 by enchanted0

[Stefi]

Well, not suprising considering how bland 30 really is. 

She has made huge promotional errors with those celebrity filled prerecorded specials. 

And then Vegas, bad publicity.

 

[BrokenMachine]

Quote

Billboard 200

 

18. 30

21. Red (Taylor's Version)

Good luck for next week I guess 

[Carrie-is-no-1]

On 3/16/2022 at 6:36 PM, Carrie-is-no-1 said:

watch the final number having it reversed  

lmaooo